What can we do to stop the killings &...

What can we do to stop the killings & make schools safe.

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I want to know

Nicholasville, KY

#1 Dec 17, 2012
What can we do in this country to stop the kiilings that are happening in our schools. Wht ideas would help to stop and make it better for childen to feel safe in school.
GotIt

Lexington, KY

#2 Dec 17, 2012
Let the teachers carry them. Normally, I would also say let the administration carry them too. But, the admins in Kentucky are not smart enough to know which end is the business end. So, train and let the teachers that would take upon that responsibility to be professionally trained to do such things.
Logic

Carmel, ME

#3 Dec 17, 2012
GotIt wrote:
Let the teachers carry them. Normally, I would also say let the administration carry them too. But, the admins in Kentucky are not smart enough to know which end is the business end. So, train and let the teachers that would take upon that responsibility to be professionally trained to do such things.
You really do GotIt! I know two people who have been victims of shooting violence. One, a male, was at the UT Tower when Whitman went crazy. He attempted to get to a wounded student at the base of the Tower, only to come under heavy fire. He told me he, "was too scared to even shit his pants", but he made it without a scratch-the student died.

The other was a lady out on a shopping day. Her day went bad when a gunman opened fire at others, and missed them, but hitting her in the lower torso. A gentleman threw his body on top of hers to prevent her from being shot again. She told me that at first she was in total shock, then became extremely fearful. Her final emotion was pure anger.

Today, both of these people carry handguns-with or without a permit is not optional to them. Neither one of these "unarmed victims" is ever going to be an "unarmed victim" again.(Both have since had to draw their weapons to aid another citizen, and no one was injured).
GotIt

Lexington, KY

#4 Dec 17, 2012
GotIt wrote:
Let the teachers carry them. Normally, I would also say let the administration carry them too. But, the admins in Kentucky are not smart enough to know which end is the business end. So, train and let the teachers that would take upon that responsibility to be professionally trained to do such things.
Oh, I forgot to add that I would not even have a problem my tax dollars paying to have the TEACHERS(not admin) trained. If I cannot be around to protect my child or others, then I want someone who can protect them just as well or better than I can.

Sorry admins, I must still say you cannot do this. I have had my battles with you for 18 years. You all cannot make daily decisions that really, at the end of the day is unimportant and insignificant without first asking a committee if it would be politically correct. When it comes time to take care of a situation that requires immediate and decisive action, I do not have time to wait for you get permission or see if it would offend someones sensitivities.
I want to know

Nicholasville, KY

#5 Dec 17, 2012
GotIt wrote:
Let the teachers carry them. Normally, I would also say let the administration carry them too. But, the admins in Kentucky are not smart enough to know which end is the business end. So, train and let the teachers that would take upon that responsibility to be professionally trained to do such things.
I think that would be a good start if they did train and have them carry a gun to protect.
I heard a police person on TV yesterday say that too that they should carry a gun . He said if the Princple or one of the teachers had gun that day they might have got a shot off on him and saved all this from happening or saved some lives .
I agree they should be armed and trained .
GotIt

Lexington, KY

#6 Dec 17, 2012
I want to know wrote:
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I think that would be a good start if they did train and have them carry a gun to protect.
I heard a police person on TV yesterday say that too that they should carry a gun . He said if the Princple or one of the teachers had gun that day they might have got a shot off on him and saved all this from happening or saved some lives .
I agree they should be armed and trained .
Looks like a Texas town beat me to the idea.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,404721,00...
I want to know

Nicholasville, KY

#7 Dec 17, 2012
GotIt wrote:
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Looks like a Texas town beat me to the idea.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,404721,00...
Thats great I just read about it , now if other schools & states would start this policy .

Maybe some one should start a topic on that.
GotIt

Lexington, KY

#8 Dec 17, 2012
I want to know wrote:
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Thats great I just read about it , now if other schools & states would start this policy .
Maybe some one should start a topic on that.
Man, when you have tools such as Tom Shelton, it will be a tough battle. What people fail to realize is that 99% of the problems are self inflicted by our own rules, created by the very admins that say we cannot protect our children in one form or another.
OhNo

Lexington, KY

#9 Dec 17, 2012
Or just start homeschooling....either scenario, the kids would be better off than what our current school system provides. Our system drops the ball in so many aspects it is inconceivable.
lawnorder

Versailles, KY

#10 Dec 17, 2012
OhNo wrote:
Or just start homeschooling....either scenario, the kids would be better off than what our current school system provides. Our system drops the ball in so many aspects it is inconceivable.
Pro's and Con's to homeschool

The shooter at Newtown was a homeschool kid. Now in my opinion he probably should have been, and his mother realized it. Most homeschool kids are smart, because the parents have control of what is learned, and all parents want what is best for the kids. The homeschool kids are also most of the time socially enept. They feel awkward in crowds and later with co-workers. Business society have went to more of the team concept, and homeschool people aren't very good in these situations. I have worked with people who were homeschool kids and trush me...they are definetly different, some I thought at times "should be on SSI and away from co-workers because we felt uneasy around them" I trained a guy once who was homeschooled majority of his life and he was almost impossible to converse with, and when directed to do a job in a certain way, would question, defy, and then he would cry. SCARY! He soon went to HR, and soon HR sent him to have a psychological examination, he never returned to work, and we were thankful for it.

A pro would be, you wouldn't have to worry about kids getting in violent crimes at home like in a school. I sent my kids to school every day, and they are successful. Today (the monday after Connecticut shooting) I hugged them extra tight and knew that it could happen at any school, but it could happen in a grocery store, a ball game, a park, a movie theatre or in your own back yard. It wouldn't make it any easier.

It is left up to the parents if homeschool is right for your child or not, for some it is the correct thing, for others (my family) the thought of homeschool has never been a thought, because of my dealings with people who have been homeschooled.
OhNo

Lexington, KY

#11 Dec 17, 2012
lawnorder wrote:
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Pro's and Con's to homeschool
The shooter at Newtown was a homeschool kid. Now in my opinion he probably should have been, and his mother realized it. Most homeschool kids are smart, because the parents have control of what is learned, and all parents want what is best for the kids. The homeschool kids are also most of the time socially enept. They feel awkward in crowds and later with co-workers. Business society have went to more of the team concept, and homeschool people aren't very good in these situations. I have worked with people who were homeschool kids and trush me...they are definetly different, some I thought at times "should be on SSI and away from co-workers because we felt uneasy around them" I trained a guy once who was homeschooled majority of his life and he was almost impossible to converse with, and when directed to do a job in a certain way, would question, defy, and then he would cry. SCARY! He soon went to HR, and soon HR sent him to have a psychological examination, he never returned to work, and we were thankful for it.
A pro would be, you wouldn't have to worry about kids getting in violent crimes at home like in a school. I sent my kids to school every day, and they are successful. Today (the monday after Connecticut shooting) I hugged them extra tight and knew that it could happen at any school, but it could happen in a grocery store, a ball game, a park, a movie theatre or in your own back yard. It wouldn't make it any easier.
It is left up to the parents if homeschool is right for your child or not, for some it is the correct thing, for others (my family) the thought of homeschool has never been a thought, because of my dealings with people who have been homeschooled.
Well.....

Good for you and your kids then.
And maybe it is you that has a problem with dealing with people that have been homeschooled. Maybe it is you that is inept in dealing with people in general, especially if it is different than your opinions. We can beat this to death day and night and never get any where, but just because you found success in a screwed up system is not the end all be all way things should be for everyone. Every now and again, one needs to step back and say to themselves, "maybe it is me."

Considering the current state of affairs our education system is in, I find it hard to use the school system as a baseline for decision making. Ever stop to think that even though the majority still go to public schools that the teachings in those schools are wrong and the homeschoolers have got it right? Thus, you base your decisions off of a flawed system to begin with.
Enough is Enough

Helenwood, TN

#12 Dec 17, 2012
Classroms should have steel doors that can't be kicked or shot open and can be locked down instantly. Maybe each classroom could have a bullet proof "safe room" inside for the children to retreat to in an emergency even a tornado. Also each school should have at least one armed guard on duty watching security cameras. Banks have armed guards to protect money, aren't our children worth more than money?
lawnorder

Versailles, KY

#13 Dec 17, 2012
OhNo wrote:
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Well.....
Good for you and your kids then.
And maybe it is you that has a problem with dealing with people that have been homeschooled. Maybe it is you that is inept in dealing with people in general, especially if it is different than your opinions. We can beat this to death day and night and never get any where, but just because you found success in a screwed up system is not the end all be all way things should be for everyone. Every now and again, one needs to step back and say to themselves, "maybe it is me."
Considering the current state of affairs our education system is in, I find it hard to use the school system as a baseline for decision making. Ever stop to think that even though the majority still go to public schools that the teachings in those schools are wrong and the homeschoolers have got it right? Thus, you base your decisions off of a flawed system to begin with.
Ever saw the little girl Rebecca Sealfon who won the spelling bee a few yrs ago? Bright,very intelligent, she was homeschool kid. It is now a running joke on many web sites and was made fun of on television for her actions, but hey, she STILL WON right?

Funny how you feel "it might be me" in dealing with these kinds of people. This could be true. I have zero tolerance for anyone who isn't willing to live in todays world.(be it screwed up sometimes)
I have to learn to adapt to it, so why doesn't others??

Again it is left up to the parents on the decision of homeschool, it works out great for some, and I respect that decision, but it seems that they are the ones who feel that everyone should adapt to their ways, and it's just the system is flawed. If YOU have children who NEED homeschool (and there is those that should be) I again respect your decision, and hope you keep them away from mine.
any school

Louisville, KY

#14 Dec 17, 2012
lawnorder wrote:
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Ever saw the little girl Rebecca Sealfon who won the spelling bee a few yrs ago? Bright,very intelligent, she was homeschool kid. It is now a running joke on many web sites and was made fun of on television for her actions, but hey, she STILL WON right?
Funny how you feel "it might be me" in dealing with these kinds of people. This could be true. I have zero tolerance for anyone who isn't willing to live in todays world.(be it screwed up sometimes)
I have to learn to adapt to it, so why doesn't others??
Again it is left up to the parents on the decision of homeschool, it works out great for some, and I respect that decision, but it seems that they are the ones who feel that everyone should adapt to their ways, and it's just the system is flawed. If YOU have children who NEED homeschool (and there is those that should be) I again respect your decision, and hope you keep them away from mine.
There's no way you could have homeschooled with your spelling and grammar skills, anyway. Good choice you made.
lawnorder

Versailles, KY

#15 Dec 17, 2012
any school wrote:
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There's no way you could have homeschooled with your spelling and grammar skills, anyway. Good choice you made.
Yea, another reason to send kids to schools, so the proper people can teach

Didn't realize I was going to be graded on Lexington topix website. From the looks of your post..ummm..pot meet kettle?
any school

Louisville, KY

#16 Dec 17, 2012
lawnorder wrote:
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Yea, another reason to send kids to schools, so the proper people can teach
Didn't realize I was going to be graded on Lexington topix website. From the looks of your post..ummm..pot meet kettle?
Ummm...what are you attempting to say?
SIKE

Louisville, KY

#17 Dec 17, 2012
Quite honestly the only thing to do is be more prepared. Does that mean walking around in body armor and an M1, of course not, but why wouldn't you want to have a handgun for personal protection? With every day that passes we see more and more instances of just how unpredictable the world and people are, instead of acknowledging the fact that you can't stop or predict evil, our government is looking for more ways to make us all victims of this horrible crime.

A gun is a tool, it is inanimate. It has a time and a place just like a shovel or a pruning shear, or a boat and sandbags. Never deny yourself the tools you need to make it through this ever increasingly evil world.
lawnorder

Versailles, KY

#18 Dec 17, 2012
any school wrote:
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Ummm...what are you attempting to say?
Attempting to say?? Perhaps I should type a little slower so you can understand? lol

I am not one who thinks I know better than others, I still learn everyday, seems some like yourself, think they can teach children academics and about life better than the rest.

Again if you have kids that NEED homeschool, I sincerely hope these kids stay there.
any school

Louisville, KY

#19 Dec 17, 2012
lawnorder wrote:
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Attempting to say?? Perhaps I should type a little slower so you can understand? lol
I am not one who thinks I know better than others, I still learn everyday, seems some like yourself, think they can teach children academics and about life better than the rest.
Again if you have kids that NEED homeschool, I sincerely hope these kids stay there.
I said nothing about teaching my own children at home. Where did you get that?
Yes, "attempting to say". You referred to my post as a reason I should teach my kids at home. Just curious what part of it sent that signal to you.
I want to know

Nicholasville, KY

#20 Dec 17, 2012
Many families would not be able to teach at home because 2 parents work.
Plus some are not capable to teach.

I have a son and he went to a public schools and the high school teacher, a few months after he left high school his teacher called me one day .
There was a well know company that was looking for someone in the enginerring filed him in his field he studied in that school.
Any way he joined that company and now is in the top of his field .They even paid for his off campus college. He now makes more in one yr than I made inany 5 yrs.So myself I favor public schools.

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