Cooper's playhouse
Larry

Ft Mitchell, KY

#671 Feb 8, 2012
Caught this family on the news last night. No wonder nothing can get resolved here, this doctor is arrogant as any individual I have seen. The bill will never make it thru Frankfort, if it does it will be found to be unconstitutional. You can not back out of a contract just because your circumstances have changed.

Since: Jan 12

Louisville, KY

#672 Feb 8, 2012
Here's a copy of the entire email/letter sent by the HOA (will probably have to break it up into multiple messages for space requirements). I think the third point is most interesting--note that the family provided a doctor's letter saying the playhouse "aids his therapy" but no where does it say the playhouse itself is prescribed, nor that the playhouse structure is the only way for him to obtain needed therapy. They did not present an explanation of relationship between Cooper's undisputed disability and the need *specifically* for a shed in his yard for therapy. They did mention the playhouse has steps and ladders inside for his therapy, but that doesn't remotely mean the shed is the only place that "equipment" could be located, nor that the shed itself is providing any portion of the therapy. Fair Housing provisions require you to demonstrate a relationship between a disability and a needed accommodation (for example, a wheelchair bound person can request to install wheel chair ramps, or an arthritic person can request to change their door knobs to levers--there's an obvious relationship between the disability and the modifications requested). In this case, this family hasn't established a connection between Cooper's disability and a playhouse being the only option for his therapy. In fact, the family stated in an initial email to the HOA (posted on their FB page) that the playhouse was "the least expensive option", which means they did, in fact, have other options (though I suspect other options would likely have been cheaper than this $5,000 shed, but whatever...) Letter to follow....

Since: Jan 12

Louisville, KY

#673 Feb 8, 2012
February 7, 2012

Dear Member of Andover Forest Homeowner’s Association:

On Monday, January 27, 2012, the Andover Forest Homeowners Association Board met to consider Dr. and Mrs. Veloudises’ request that the Board approve the construction and placement of “Cooper’s House” on their property. The Board has avoided making public statements previously about this matter to protect the privacy of the child and family involved – as they would do in any other dispute with a homeowner. Andover Forest residents can be assured that the Board has not sought nor fed any of the media attention this dispute has received.

Yet, because of the media hype surrounding the situation and the questions from many of you, the Board wanted to provide an update to all residents of Andover Forest now that a decision has been issued.

As involved community volunteers, as well as being parents and grandparents ourselves, the members of the Board are committed to maintaining a neighborhood where the well-being of our children is a priority. We believe – as we think all Andover Forest residents do – that our children are our treasure, and we regret any recent media publicity re:“Cooper’s House” that might imply that we, as a community, disregard the well being of a child with a disability. Furthermore, the HOA has equal respect for the needs of all residents of Andover Forest who may have disabilities.

Nevertheless, among the HOA Board’s primary fiduciary duties is the enforcement of the deed restrictions filed of record at the Fayette County Clerk’s office. The deed restrictions should not be confused with the HOA by-laws. The HOA Board did not create these deed restrictions, nor did the residents of Andover Forest create them. Rather, they were established at the time of the subdivision’s development by the developer, and anyone who purchases a lot in the subdivision is subject to the deed restrictions and by-laws. After consulting with two respected real estate attorneys, the HOA Board was advised that it can no more legally change the deed restrictions related to enclosed structures than it can alter the property boundaries in each deed.

With any proposed structure or exterior modification, the Board must consider (1) whether the requested structure of modification is prohibited under the restrictions, or (2) whether it might be permitted in the Board’s limited discretion, such as a modification to the original footprint of the house. Application for a modification must be made before construction begins so that any potential deed violations can be identified before the homeowner is financially committed. Dr. and Mrs. Veloudis do not dispute that they failed to submit such an application to the Board before placing the structure now known as “Cooper’s House” on their property in April, 2011. Had they done so, an acceptable modification of their property to provide therapy for their child might have been agreed upon at that time, and the dispute averted. Nevertheless, the Board evaluated their belated request, without bias, as well as their subsequent recent request for an accommodation with the same criteria it applies to all modification applications. Specifically, the issues addressed by the Board were:

Since: Jan 12

Louisville, KY

#674 Feb 8, 2012
(Andover Forest HOA Board Letter cont'd)

Whether “Cooper’s House” is a prohibited “structure” under Article V, Section 5 or could be permitted in the Board’s discretion under Article VI, Section 1;

If “Cooper’s House” is a prohibited “structure” under Article V or is not permitted in the Board’s discretion under Article VI, whether any law is applicable that might otherwise require the Board to allow the structure; and

If so, whether “Cooper’s House” is a reasonable and necessary accommodation.

Re: 1 - The HOA Board has concluded that “Cooper’s House” is a prohibited structure, and consideration thereof falls under Article V, Section 5 of the restrictions.

Re: 2 – The Fair Housing Act requires an accommodation of existing rules and regulations, such as the deed restrictions, if the requested accommodation is both “reasonable” and “necessary.”

Re: 3 – In accordance with the Fair Housing Act, the Board requested medical and other information from the Veloudis family regarding their request for an accommodation of the structure, and which shows the relationship between Cooper’s disability, which is not disputed, and the alleged need for the structure. Despite the Board’s repeated requests for this information, the Veloudis family has not provided any medical or therapy information that indicates the structure, as opposed to the alleged specially-installed, therapy-related “steps, ladders and essentials” inside, was “necessary.” They did not present any information that the structure was actually “prescribed,” as they claimed. Indeed, written communication from the Veloudises in their initial application cites that they considered, but rejected, other alternatives. The Board’s request to review those alternatives was rejected by Dr. and Mrs. Veloudis.

As the Board has not received sufficient information to complete its investigation and therefore to consider the requested accommodation with full information, the Board is unable to determine whether the requested accommodation to the deed restrictions, the otherwise prohibited “Cooper’s House,” is “reasonable” and “necessary.” As a result, the Board has determined to file a lawsuit asking a Court to determine the HOA’s rights to be provided with medical and other requested information and whether the structure is a “reasonable” and “necessary” accommodation.

Understanding that litigation is a last resort in every dispute, the HOA Board has asked the Veloudises, through their attorney, to voluntarily mediate the situation prior to the Board seeking judicial review, in order to determine what alternatives might exist to allow resolution of this dispute. If the Veloudises agree to mediate, the process will be akin to what could have been accomplished if the Board had been approached originally before the structure was placed on the property. Some resolution of the conflict with our deed restrictions might yet be found that can be accomplished within the HOA Board’s limited discretion.

During the ongoing period of either mediation or judicial review, the HOA Board has granted a temporary exemption for the structure to remain.

Having conveyed the HOA Board’s decisions to the Veloudises, we can now communicate with every resident about this dispute. While the situation, especially the unwarranted and often-untrue media and social media hype, is unfortunate, the Board has treated Dr. and Mrs. Veloudis with respect and courtesy, and with professional and legal protocol, throughout this dispute. Certainly, members of your HOA Board have not harassed nor attacked, verbally or physically, publicly or privately, any member of the Veloudis household.

As this matter moves forward, the Board will continue to keep the subdivision advised at appropriate times. We appreciate your patience, and ask everyone to continue to respect the Veloudises’ privacy in this matter.

Sincerely,

The Board of Directors of Andover Forest Homeowners’ Association
Stigmata

United States

#675 Feb 8, 2012
"I notice that Cooper's parents brought him here today," she said. They "are literally holding up Cooper, trying to get him to influence you."

*someone called them out on exploiting their child*

Henderson later said Cooper was present only because the family stopped in Frankfort on its way to Cincinnati.

*oh, him being here was just a coincidence, contrary to what his mother says on facebook*
Stigmata

United States

#676 Feb 8, 2012
It's funny when you read through those emails, there isn't a single reference to how much they hate children, despite what the brainless hordes and their imaginary friends are spouting. :/

Since: Jan 12

Louisville, KY

#677 Feb 8, 2012
Stigmata wrote:
It's funny when you read through those emails, there isn't a single reference to how much they hate children, despite what the brainless hordes and their imaginary friends are spouting.:/
You obviously missed the part where they said the playshed is in violation of the deed restrictions, and that the parents didn't establish a Fair Housing relationship between the child's disability and needing the shed itself. Oh, and the part that said despite this violation, they can keep the house for the time being, and that they're pursuing legal action but would rather go to mediation. All of that is just dripping with child hate!

Oh, and get ready for an influx of FB lemmings...someone posted a link to this thread on the FB page. I look forward to the apoplectic fits and childish name calling!
all you haters

Spring Lake, NC

#678 Feb 8, 2012
I am a adult who has bn disabled since birth! I know daily what struggles this has brought to my family and to myself. If we could we would all snap our fingers and I would be healthy but it aint gonna happen! I bet you all anything Coopers family and Cooper himself would do just that Snap there fingers! We cant and no one can!

This lil boy who I don't even know is just trying to make himself BETTER!!! He is just TRYING to get some kinda NORMAL to his DISABLED life. Nothing in a Diabled Childs life is NORMAL!

Would you like to see your child struggle to walk? Struggle to stand? Struggle to do the things normal people take for GRANTED?

THERAPY HURTS!!! Trust me I know!

They did this house to help lessin Coopers pain. Instead of him being scared everytime he has therapy! They did it so he can have fun with therapy!

STOP JUDGING WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND or KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!!

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!!!
Kassy
Disabled adult!!!
Stigmata

United States

#679 Feb 8, 2012
all you haters wrote:
I am a adult who has bn disabled since birth! I know daily what struggles this has brought to my family and to myself. If we could we would all snap our fingers and I would be healthy but it aint gonna happen! I bet you all anything Coopers family and Cooper himself would do just that Snap there fingers! We cant and no one can!
This lil boy who I don't even know is just trying to make himself BETTER!!! He is just TRYING to get some kinda NORMAL to his DISABLED life. Nothing in a Diabled Childs life is NORMAL!
Would you like to see your child struggle to walk? Struggle to stand? Struggle to do the things normal people take for GRANTED?
THERAPY HURTS!!! Trust me I know!
They did this house to help lessin Coopers pain. Instead of him being scared everytime he has therapy! They did it so he can have fun with therapy!
STOP JUDGING WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND or KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!!
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!!!
Kassy
Disabled adult!!!
Is the English language your disability?
Sam

Ft Mitchell, KY

#680 Feb 8, 2012
Idiots on FB think todays vote makes this a law. This will never become a law.

“Servals in Space”

Since: Dec 11

Saturn

#681 Feb 8, 2012
By the Gods, this topic is STILL the largest gathering of ignoramuses on Earth! Incredible! Where are the Guinness Judges when you need them?
Stigmata

United States

#682 Feb 8, 2012
Servals in Space wrote:
By the Gods, this topic is STILL the largest gathering of ignoramuses on Earth! Incredible! Where are the Guinness Judges when you need them?
Actually, we're ranked #2. The Coopers House Facebook page is the Mecca of all things mentally challenged. Seriously, the average education/IQ of most of their posters is probably somewhere between wearing a helmet and needing velcro tennis shoes. Check it out...I kid you not.
Onlysanepersonin lexington

Owensville, IN

#683 Feb 8, 2012
Wow! So, this is where the HOA gathers to spread their bullshit. Cute. Real cute.
Hmmmmmm

Louisville, KY

#684 Feb 8, 2012
yes they are exploiting their child (unfortunate) to fight the HOA cause they are out 5K. They should be ashamed of themselves. But, do they have a VW up on blocks in the driveway. Come on its just a friggen play house. Sad that the kid had to be used by the parents though.

“Servals in Space”

Since: Dec 11

Saturn

#685 Feb 8, 2012
Stigmata wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, we're ranked #2. The Coopers House Facebook page is the Mecca of all things mentally challenged. Seriously, the average education/IQ of most of their posters is probably somewhere between wearing a helmet and needing velcro tennis shoes. Check it out...I kid you not.
Sorry, but my judgement still stands. Unfortunately, there is far too much lunacy here to be outmatched.
Onlysanepersonin lexington

Owensville, IN

#686 Feb 8, 2012
I really doubt 5K means much at all to these people. If you know the neighborhood and have seen their house, 5K is a drop in the bucket. It's all about escalation. The HOA pushed and they pushed back, each pushing a little harder until they wind up where they are now. And honestly, anyone who has ever dealt with Andover HOA could tell you it is a collection of petty douchebags that like to flex their power and show you how big and touch they are. A bunch of paper tigers all of them.
Stigmata

United States

#687 Feb 8, 2012
Kassy D. Sweet
the thread that was posted on here a few under this! They want to make a fb pg called "People against Cooper's House" oh and there are spys on this page post things from here on there!!!
*from the coopers house facebook page*

Kassy, we hate all children. Get your facts straight.
all you haters

Spring Lake, NC

#688 Feb 8, 2012
Stigmata wrote:
<quoted text>
Is the English language your disability?
Just because I didn't use cute little comas and quotes and all the correct little periods and things of that nature still doesn't mean what I said wasn't true! That all being said I know FIRST hand what struggles we(disabled people) have u don't.
They had to make a ADA (America's with Disabled Act) cause people like you are in this world. Not everyone is NORMAL. Some of us are put on this earth to piss people like you off and stand up for others!
Onlysanepersonin lexington

Owensville, IN

#689 Feb 8, 2012
"People against Cooper's House?" Can't wait to see the PR on that one. We're clearly dealing with the finest minds here.
Stigmata

United States

#690 Feb 8, 2012
all you haters wrote:
<quoted text>
Just because I didn't use cute little comas and quotes and all the correct little periods and things of that nature still doesn't mean what I said wasn't true! That all being said I know FIRST hand what struggles we(disabled people) have u don't.
They had to make a ADA (America's with Disabled Act) cause people like you are in this world. Not everyone is NORMAL. Some of us are put on this earth to piss people like you off and stand up for others!
You are right and I apologize.

Normal people don't struggle with comas and punctuation.

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