abundant living medical clinic and/or...
Pappy

United States

#63 Feb 8, 2013
If you are looking for HRT, weight loss advice, general health info, or even substance abuse help, give a call to JoyRich Healthcare Center, Lexington. NO UP FRONT $$, NO CONTRACT, your health insurance pays for the office visit. Scrips are called to the pharmacy of your choice and you deal directly with the pharmacy just like every other doctor you've ever visited in the past.
I love it! I am a past Abundant victim. Learned my lesson.
Sunshine

Chesterfield, MO

#64 Feb 8, 2013
Lou wrote:
Everyone gets the same vitamins.Save yourself lots of money go to Whole Foods and get them. Dont make a hasty decisión based on how you feel today. Dont expect the treatment they lead you to believe you will recieve. Do more research on this company before signing their contract.Áfter you sign you cant get out. They have been in lawsuits check it out on wlex news. Wish I had know before I signed.
Well if it gives anybody hope I just want to let anyone that had care credit know, I got my money back thank the lord. Care credit promised me they would look into It and they did so there you go all you doubting thomas's that said we wouldn't have any luck.
Also a Patient

Richmond, KY

#65 Feb 9, 2013
Sunshine wrote:
<quoted text>Well if it gives anybody hope I just want to let anyone that had care credit know, I got my money back thank the lord. Care credit promised me they would look into It and they did so there you go all you doubting thomas's that said we wouldn't have any luck.
That is good to hear--I'm glad for you. I went back to ALMC Friday and had my blood drawn and they scheduled me for a procedure in 2 weeks. I never had a problem with the hormone treatments I got, in fact I really missed them. I guess I will go ahead and use the rest of my time there instead of getting my money back. Plus they are adding 60 days treatment, so maybe everything will get straightened out.I just wont be paying them ahead of time again, but that is also part of their new policy. Im just sorry the nurse practitioner lost her job due to that crook Betts.
DCT

Winchester, KY

#66 Feb 13, 2013
stuart reynolds wrote:
ok abundant living is putting off their start up date to febuary now they have already done this once beore. i say every everybody that is owed money call jesse crenshaw attorney at law and lets get our money back.
I definitely will go see him. I had been gone all week which he knew I would be gone, Mr. Betts, after receiving a personal phone call from the man for the first time. They called yesterday & wanted to set up an appt for my lipo-injection, etc. My plan has come to end. Why in the heck does someone call me & want to set up an appt. LOL,,,,,,I told her I needed a day to get all my paperwork together & I would only to Mr. Betts first & I will do that shortly today. Eager to see what comes from it.
DCT

Winchester, KY

#67 Feb 13, 2013
Oh by the way Stuart Reynolds I will go see Mr. Crenshaw if things are not worked out today!!
DCT

Winchester, KY

#68 Feb 13, 2013
stuart reynolds wrote:
i would sure hate to here of anything happening to abundant living medical the testosterone treatment i recievied there has been excellent. know kidding my sex life was in the dumper its know better than i was when i was 19 and i'm 59 know.
Strange Stuart Reynolds that you are happy wityh your testosterone level & how your sex life was better yet you state further through the comments that we need to see a Mr. Crenshaw in a further post, that we should all see him & file a lawsuit. If you're so happy sir, what are you complaining about??? Can you answer that??
Tamjoke

Jasper, IN

#69 Feb 13, 2013
Why are you ppl going to these places. If you really have a health problem why don't you see a medical doctor?
Unhappy With ALMC

Lexington, KY

#70 Feb 25, 2013
Still not happy with ALMC. Went to BBB site and they currently do not have a rating, but in their office they have posted that they are BBB approved. Their service is crappy. Thinking about leaving a compliant with BBB.
Mopotamus

Frankfort, KY

#71 Apr 23, 2013
I'm not going to comment regarding the medical pros and cons of their program. What I will comment on is the non-refundable nature of the program. Once you sign up and pay them, your money is gone. My wife and daughter signed up a few weeks ago. Shortly after beginning the HCG treatment, there has been an ER visit, doctor visit, and an "in-home" episode. They dropped the program today, weeks before the contract ended, and no refund of any type ws offered. I'm out almost $4,000 for their experience, including the ugly ones.
Consider the science but be VERY aware of the financial consequences should it not prove successful for you.
madashell

Lexington, KY

#72 May 20, 2013
has anyone gone to Jesse Crenshaw, attorney. I need one to sue these people.
mad client

Lawrenceburg, KY

#74 Jun 3, 2013
have been a client with Abundant since july of last year. when they closed down for 2 months (dec & jan) they extented my contract from July to september, due to the 2 months they were shut down. Today I received a call from their financial specialist. stating they are closing down for good and that I would only receive 1 month's refund (from the initial contract), however they would not honor my extended signed contract until September, I am gonna sue them, was wondering if anyone other clients out there would be interested in filing a class action lawsuit? if so please contact me @
[email protected] we can not just let these people take our money and line their pockets! I know several of their clients that have alot more $$ invested than I do, but the point is that Michael Betts should not be allowed to get away with his con-artist ways! Thanks for your time
Big Shirley

Versailles, KY

#75 Jun 6, 2013
waste of money... you get hyped up on testosterone and screw up labs.... have fun getting rid of all that excess facial and body hair ladies! They should incorporate themselves with lexington lazer spa for discounts!:)
patient

Olive Hill, KY

#76 Jun 9, 2013
I have been going to Abundant for close to 3 years now. I just went in for a procedure and the NP who did mine was informing me that they will be closing their doors any time. She asked me if anyone had called me or if anyone at the front desk had spoke to me to make arrangements for my refund because until they close they will only be treating patients who have been with them for at least over a year. I informed hee that noone had made any arrangements with me and that the last I was told was that I had nothing to worry about. She seemed shocked when I informed her how long I had been a patient. This is ridiculous!! The money I paid up front, WITH a contract is suppose to cover lab work, supplements, visits, hormone pellets and procedures. As of the past 1/2 year or longer my private insurance has covered lab work at my family doctor, prescriptions for my hormone pellets, thyroid script and progesterone script. Plus they no longer supplt me with my supplements that they are under contract to do! So basically I am paying twice for hormones, labs, and prescriptions that THEY wers paid UPFRONT to cover for me!!!!

I don't care if it is Betts or whoever that has put them in financial strife. Don't try to tell me that their ceo suits didn't know something was going on. This did NOT happen over night people!!!! Now those of us who have paid in full several thousand dollars are left having to pay deductibles and copays thru our private insurance AND being left with no treatment. I (along with many others) are being left thousands of dollars in the hole, plus some b/c of having to pay twice for our scripts that are no longer provided thru them as our conrract states they were to be.

So, I am NOT going to take this lying down. I want and need my money back so I can use it to go to a new hormone treatment facility. I am NOT going to accept partial payment. I did not give THEM a partial payment. I HAD to sign a one year contract and pay UP FRONT in FULL. Therefore I expect nothing LESS than reimbursement in FULL from them. Their contract can and will work both ways. Also, when I started going there 3 years ago, I was told that for every person I referred who signed up and began treatment, they would either give me $100 or apply $100 towards my next new contract. I referred at least 10 people AND each of them signed on the dotted line and paid their money. Noy once did I receive a check, I was constantly told that Betts would contact me and take care of it. He never did!! Noy a big surprise!!

So if any one has spoke to an attorney, please post their name and phone number. I do not want to vo through the process of a lawsuit but I do want the money owed to me, in full, just like I had to with them. Fair is fair! I do hope people sue them and ruin them!!
Wondering

Macon, GA

#77 Jun 11, 2013
patient wrote:
I have been going to Abundant for close to 3 years now. I just went in for a procedure and the NP who did mine was informing me that they will be closing their doors any time. She asked me if anyone had called me or if anyone at the front desk had spoke to me to make arrangements for my refund because until they close they will only be treating patients who have been with them for at least over a year. I informed hee that noone had made any arrangements with me and that the last I was told was that I had nothing to worry about. She seemed shocked when I informed her how long I had been a patient. This is ridiculous!! The money I paid up front, WITH a contract is suppose to cover lab work, supplements, visits, hormone pellets and procedures. As of the past 1/2 year or longer my private insurance has covered lab work at my family doctor, prescriptions for my hormone pellets, thyroid script and progesterone script. Plus they no longer supplt me with my supplements that they are under contract to do! So basically I am paying twice for hormones, labs, and prescriptions that THEY wers paid UPFRONT to cover for me!!!!
I don't care if it is Betts or whoever that has put them in financial strife. Don't try to tell me that their ceo suits didn't know something was going on. This did NOT happen over night people!!!! Now those of us who have paid in full several thousand dollars are left having to pay deductibles and copays thru our private insurance AND being left with no treatment. I (along with many others) are being left thousands of dollars in the hole, plus some b/c of having to pay twice for our scripts that are no longer provided thru them as our conrract states they were to be.
So, I am NOT going to take this lying down. I want and need my money back so I can use it to go to a new hormone treatment facility. I am NOT going to accept partial payment. I did not give THEM a partial payment. I HAD to sign a one year contract and pay UP FRONT in FULL. Therefore I expect nothing LESS than reimbursement in FULL from them. Their contract can and will work both ways. Also, when I started going there 3 years ago, I was told that for every person I referred who signed up and began treatment, they would either give me $100 or apply $100 towards my next new contract. I referred at least 10 people AND each of them signed on the dotted line and paid their money. Noy once did I receive a check, I was constantly told that Betts would contact me and take care of it. He never did!! Noy a big surprise!!
So if any one has spoke to an attorney, please post their name and phone number. I do not want to vo through the process of a lawsuit but I do want the money owed to me, in full, just like I had to with them. Fair is fair! I do hope people sue them and ruin them!!
Honey they are already ruined. They owe everyone lots of money and unfortunately no one will ever see any of it.

Since: Jan 13

Columbus, OH

#78 Jul 23, 2013
Big Shirley wrote:
waste of money... you get hyped up on testosterone and screw up labs.... have fun getting rid of all that excess facial and body hair ladies! They should incorporate themselves with lexington lazer spa for discounts!:)
According to Mayo Clinic there seems to be much evidence supporting the use of hormone, estrogen therapy.. after the longest study on such treatments produced vast improvement for women in many areas.

The problem is, there simply isn't enough studies. This one being the largest and longest trial has set the bar pretty high to shrug the benefits off as simply hearsay.

To quote the article...

"In a recent Danish study, after 10 years of treatment, women receiving hormone replacement therapy early after menopause had a significantly reduced risk of mortality, heart failure or heart attack, without any apparent increase in risk of cancer or stroke.
A randomized, controlled clinical trial — the Kronos Early Estrogen Prevention Study (KEEPS)— exploring estrogen use and heart disease in younger postmenopausal women was recently completed, with results expected soon.
For women who experience menopause naturally, estrogen is typically prescribed along with progesterone or progestin (progesterone-like medication). This is because estrogen alone, when not balanced by progesterone, can stimulate growth of the lining of the uterus, increasing the risk of uterine cancer. Women who have had their uterus removed (hysterectomy) don't need to take progestin."

I know many women that receive this therapy and I see the results as they swear by them.

Just my two cents.

Since: Jan 13

Columbus, OH

#79 Jul 23, 2013
Pappy wrote:
If you are looking for HRT, weight loss advice, general health info, or even substance abuse help, give a call to JoyRich Healthcare Center, Lexington. NO UP FRONT $$, NO CONTRACT, your health insurance pays for the office visit. Scrips are called to the pharmacy of your choice and you deal directly with the pharmacy just like every other doctor you've ever visited in the past.
I love it! I am a past Abundant victim. Learned my lesson.
Agree with you completely.

I am a patient at JoyRich as well. The care and procedures are not only top notch but they seem to want to teach and inform me on what healthy levels are and the importance of maintaining and monitoring these levels.

Also, no yearly contracts.
Their website is www.JRHCC.com
There is a great load of information (Blog) to absorb. They provide links to studies, and have a FREE consultation.

My two cents
Outmoney

San Francisco, CA

#80 Jul 29, 2013
As of February of this year- I had gone in and cancelled my plan with them based on the problem they had in November and December of last year (2012) I had money due to me- kept getting the run around. Filed a compliant with BBB- and find out they have closed their doors. Nice...anyone have a class action suit going?
Taken

Lawrenceburg, KY

#81 Oct 29, 2013
I went there in October 2012, next appt was dec. 18, but never got a notice they closed or was closing. Paid up front for service for one year, filed with BBB and help there requested refund for services not proposed. Got a letter finally asking me to agree to my. Refund but to. Give the 120 days. Will we are at 130 days & still refund,!
Grrr

Lexington, KY

#82 Oct 30, 2013
Taken wrote:
I went there in October 2012, next appt was dec. 18, but never got a notice they closed or was closing. Paid up front for service for one year, filed with BBB and help there requested refund for services not proposed. Got a letter finally asking me to agree to my. Refund but to. Give the 120 days. Will we are at 130 days & still refund,!
Good luck. That place was dirty from top to bottom. Including the employees. My husband was hit on by one of the nurses.
Former Patient

Lexington, KY

#84 Jan 23, 2014
Did these people ever end up in jail? I certainly hope so.

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