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confused

Lexington, KY

#1 Aug 12, 2009
Ithought it was just me at first but then I started talking to people about this scenario.It seems that everyone that grew up in Southland Christian Church and went to LCA are in their own isolated society and shun everyone else out.What I mean is they are mostly nice and pleasant towards people on the outside but never will let you into that inner social ring.Granted everyone has a comfort social ring but once someone is dating someone in that circle you would figure those in the group would finally accept you.I thought I was imagining this until I talked to people around Lexington which fully agreed.I am all for organized religion but this is the ultimate money church click that shuns outsiders.
cougar hunter

Lexington, KY

#2 Aug 12, 2009
Yeah ,they are total snobs and hipocrits.
Patluvsvettes200 3

Mount Sherman, KY

#3 Aug 13, 2009
Stay away from Southland. I used to go there many years ago. There are some really nice people that go there, but there are also the social circles that you will never fit into no matter how hard you try. It is the "money church"; how could it not be. They lost my respect when they refused to have Christmas service on a weekend several years ago because they thought there wouldn't be enough people show up.
calipari

Lexington, KY

#4 Aug 13, 2009
Yeah it seems to be more of a business and place to make social status not to actually worship.I think it's ridiculous for a church to get that large because it loses the ability to fellowship with one another you are simply a number.
Heather

Winchester, KY

#5 Aug 13, 2009
I think it's hilarious when people complain about Southland being too big of a church. As Jon Weece put it, if you don't like Southland because it's too crowded... you're going to hate Heaven! ;)
calipari

Lexington, KY

#6 Aug 14, 2009
Good comparison lol!! I wonder if God will cancel services as well because it is isn't a financially smart decision. Any church that cancels church on Christmas day is a joke and should evaluate themselves. This church has been a joke since Wayne Smith left.They ought to just charge admission and have a golf course in the back and list themselves as a country club and admit what they are instead of saying they're a church. It's almost like going back a few centuries and viewing the act of paying pennance by the Catholic church .
Heather

Winchester, KY

#7 Aug 14, 2009
I've went to Southland since I was a child, and I don't remember a Christmas service ever being canceled. I'm sorry that you're so bitter.
I love Southland

Lexington, KY

#8 Aug 14, 2009
calipari wrote:
Good comparison lol!! I wonder if God will cancel services as well because it is isn't a financially smart decision. Any church that cancels church on Christmas day is a joke and should evaluate themselves. This church has been a joke since Wayne Smith left.They ought to just charge admission and have a golf course in the back and list themselves as a country club and admit what they are instead of saying they're a church. It's almost like going back a few centuries and viewing the act of paying pennance by the Catholic church .
You're a joke for condemning a Church. I think they cancelled ChrisTmas Services once due to an icestorm.
calipari

Vero Beach, FL

#9 Aug 14, 2009
Quit trying to rewrite history .No icestorm and it happened 3 or 4 christmases ago because of financial decisions. If you don't believe me google the herald leader article about it.It is ran like a business and I'm not bitter just calling a spade a spade. Good luck with it lol! I love to play golf maybe you'll take me up on that country club membership idea. Maybe it will generate enough money to pay large beauracratic church staffing and allow you to stay open on Christmas.I guess if you're a church it's ok to close on christmas.After all it's only one of the top two christian holidays.The church needed to save money then .If it was my business I'd probably trim the fat too.Economics 101 Southland University lol
to fake calipari

Lexington, KY

#10 Aug 14, 2009
stop using different isps guess you got dsl

PS GOD LOVES YOU
calipari

Vero Beach, FL

#11 Aug 14, 2009
I know God loves us all just trying to call out the parisees and moneychangers in the temple.Many will be called few will be chosen.....depart from me I never knew you
Heather

Winchester, KY

#13 Aug 15, 2009
I am so glad Jon Weece addressed the canceling of the Christmas service tonight. You, Calipari, are way off. The service was canceled because the church believed it would be better for the members to spend that night doing good deeds for others in the community, and making their holiday a little bit better. Do you know what some members of the church and staff did on that night? They went around the city of Lexington and helped those in need. Whether that be feeding the homeless or simply paying for someone's groceries. One man from Southland spent that night at the Waffle House. He bought a .75 cup of coffee, and left the waitress a $1,000 tip in an envelope on the table. Another man gave his vehicle to a college kid (a total stranger, by the way) who had no other way to get back home so he could spend the holidays with his family. So you are wrong, the service being canceled had absolutely nothing to do with finances. You really should have been in attendance tonight... the sermon addressed people like you.:)

Was anyone else in attendance tonight? I'm curious as to what other people thought about the service. I thought it was amazing, and it was the perfect way to prove a point and the reasoning behind It.
im from menifee

Lexington, KY

#14 Aug 15, 2009
http://www.redorbit.com/news/oddities/323023/...
You will not see anything on Southland until the 8th paragraph down or so. It was 2005 and not because of an ice storm..........
Some Megachurches Closing for Christmas
Posted on: Wednesday, 7 December 2005, 00:00 CST
By RACHEL ZOLL
This Christmas, no prayers will be said in several megachurches around the country. Even though the holiday falls this year on a Sunday, when churches normally host thousands for worship, pastors are canceling services, anticipating low attendance on what they call a family day.
Critics within the evangelical community, more accustomed to doing battle with department stores and public schools over keeping religion in Christmas, are stunned by the shutdown.
It is almost unheard of for a Christian church to cancel services on a Sunday, and opponents of the closures are accusing these congregations of bowing to secular culture.
"This is a consumer mentality at work:`Let's not impose the church on people. Let's not make church in any way inconvenient,'" said David Wells, professor of history and systematic theology at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, a leading evangelical school in Hamilton, Mass. "I think what this does is feed into the individualism that is found throughout American culture, where everyone does their own thing."
The churches closing on Christmas plan multiple services in the days leading up to the holiday, including on Christmas Eve. Most normally do not hold Christmas Day services, preferring instead to mark the holiday in the days and night before. However, Sunday worship has been a Christian practice since ancient times.
Cally Parkinson, a spokeswoman for Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, Ill., said church leaders decided that organizing services on a Christmas Sunday would not be the most effective use of staff and volunteer resources. The last time Christmas fell on a Sunday was 1994, and only a small number of people showed up to pray, she said.
"If our target and our mission is to reach the unchurched, basically the people who don't go to church, how likely is it that they'll be going to church on Christmas morning?" she said.
Among the other megachurches closing on Christmas Day are Southland Christian Church in Nicholasville, Ky., near Lexington, and Fellowship Church in Grapevine, Texas, outside of Dallas. North Point Community Church in Alpharetta, Ga., outside of Atlanta, said on its Web site that no services will be held on Christmas Day or New Year's Day, which also falls on a Sunday. A spokesman for North Point did not respond to requests for comment.
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im from menifee

Lexington, KY

#15 Aug 15, 2009
The closures stand in stark contrast to Roman Catholic parishes, which will see some of their largest crowds of the year on Christmas, and mainline Protestant congregations such as the Episcopal, Methodist and Lutheran churches, where Sunday services are rarely if ever canceled.

Cindy Willison, a spokeswoman for the evangelical Southland Christian Church, said at least 500 volunteers are needed, along with staff, to run Sunday services for the estimated 8,000 people who usually attend. She said many of the volunteers appreciate the chance to spend Christmas with their families instead of working, although she said a few church members complained.

"If we weren't having services at all, I would probably tend to feel that we were too accommodating to the secular viewpoint, but we're having multiple services on Saturday and an additional service Friday night," Willison said. "We believe that you worship every day of the week, not just on a weekend, and you don't have to be in a church building to worship."

Troy Page, a spokesman for Fellowship Church, said the congregation was hardly shirking its religious obligations. Fellowship will hold 21 services in four locations in the days leading up to the holiday. Last year, more than 30,000 worshippers participated. "Doing them early allows you to reach people who may be leaving town Friday," Page said.

These megachurches are not alone in adjusting Sunday worship to accommodate families on Christmas. But most other congregations are scaling back services instead of closing their doors.

First Baptist Church in Daytona Beach, Fla., led by the Rev. Bobby Welch, president of the Southern Baptist Convention, will hold one service instead of the usual two. New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colo., led by the Rev. Ted Haggard, president of the National Association of Evangelicals, will hold one Sunday service instead of the typical three.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/oddities/323023/...
im from menifee

Lexington, KY

#16 Aug 15, 2009
grrrrrrrr the first part of that article did not take ! Here it is and you will not see anything about Southland Christian untill about paragraph 8.
It was 2005 and not because of an ice storm.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/oddities/323023/...

Download full size image Some Megachurches Closing for Christmas
Posted on: Wednesday, 7 December 2005, 00:00 CST

By RACHEL ZOLL

This Christmas, no prayers will be said in several megachurches around the country. Even though the holiday falls this year on a Sunday, when churches normally host thousands for worship, pastors are canceling services, anticipating low attendance on what they call a family day.

Critics within the evangelical community, more accustomed to doing battle with department stores and public schools over keeping religion in Christmas, are stunned by the shutdown.

It is almost unheard of for a Christian church to cancel services on a Sunday, and opponents of the closures are accusing these congregations of bowing to secular culture.

"This is a consumer mentality at work:`Let's not impose the church on people. Let's not make church in any way inconvenient,'" said David Wells, professor of history and systematic theology at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, a leading evangelical school in Hamilton, Mass. "I think what this does is feed into the individualism that is found throughout American culture, where everyone does their own thing."

The churches closing on Christmas plan multiple services in the days leading up to the holiday, including on Christmas Eve. Most normally do not hold Christmas Day services, preferring instead to mark the holiday in the days and night before. However, Sunday worship has been a Christian practice since ancient times.

Cally Parkinson, a spokeswoman for Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, Ill., said church leaders decided that organizing services on a Christmas Sunday would not be the most effective use of staff and volunteer resources. The last time Christmas fell on a Sunday was 1994, and only a small number of people showed up to pray, she said.

"If our target and our mission is to reach the unchurched, basically the people who don't go to church, how likely is it that they'll be going to church on Christmas morning?" she said.

Among the other megachurches closing on Christmas Day are Southland Christian Church in Nicholasville, Ky., near Lexington, and Fellowship Church in Grapevine, Texas, outside of Dallas. North Point Community Church in Alpharetta, Ga., outside of Atlanta, said on its Web site that no services will be held on Christmas Day or New Year's Day, which also falls on a Sunday. A spokesman for North Point did not respond to requests for comment.

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im from menifee

Lexington, KY

#17 Aug 15, 2009
The closures stand in stark contrast to Roman Catholic parishes, which will see some of their largest crowds of the year on Christmas, and mainline Protestant congregations such as the Episcopal, Methodist and Lutheran churches, where Sunday services are rarely if ever canceled.

Cindy Willison, a spokeswoman for the evangelical Southland Christian Church, said at least 500 volunteers are needed, along with staff, to run Sunday services for the estimated 8,000 people who usually attend. She said many of the volunteers appreciate the chance to spend Christmas with their families instead of working, although she said a few church members complained.

"If we weren't having services at all, I would probably tend to feel that we were too accommodating to the secular viewpoint, but we're having multiple services on Saturday and an additional service Friday night," Willison said. "We believe that you worship every day of the week, not just on a weekend, and you don't have to be in a church building to worship."

Troy Page, a spokesman for Fellowship Church, said the congregation was hardly shirking its religious obligations. Fellowship will hold 21 services in four locations in the days leading up to the holiday. Last year, more than 30,000 worshippers participated. "Doing them early allows you to reach people who may be leaving town Friday," Page said.

These megachurches are not alone in adjusting Sunday worship to accommodate families on Christmas. But most other congregations are scaling back services instead of closing their doors.

First Baptist Church in Daytona Beach, Fla., led by the Rev. Bobby Welch, president of the Southern Baptist Convention, will hold one service instead of the usual two. New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colo., led by the Rev. Ted Haggard, president of the National Association of Evangelicals, will hold one Sunday service instead of the typical three.

http://www.redorbit.com/news/oddities/323023/ ...
im from menifee

Lexington, KY

#18 Aug 15, 2009
Sorry for the double post, only part of it posted at first, computer going screwy or something.
Newby

Lexington, KY

#19 Aug 15, 2009
Give me that little church in the country anyday. Southland has gotten way to big for new worshippers to feel at ease. When you drive by it looks more like a school or college. Don't get me wrong, I think the ministers are wonderful and loving people, but when you get that big do they really look too see who is there, I mean the only way they know if a new person is there is if someone tells them. People go to church too worship not too watch a show on a big screen, if they did they would stay home and watch a minister of TV.
im from menifee

Lexington, KY

#20 Aug 15, 2009
Newby wrote:
Give me that little church in the country anyday. Southland has gotten way to big for new worshippers to feel at ease. When you drive by it looks more like a school or college. Don't get me wrong, I think the ministers are wonderful and loving people, but when you get that big do they really look too see who is there, I mean the only way they know if a new person is there is if someone tells them. People go to church too worship not too watch a show on a big screen, if they did they would stay home and watch a minister of TV.
I like a small church too. I attend 2 when I go, a small one in Jessamine County and I guess a medium sized one here. What happens to those people at big churches when someone who has been going there for years needs the pastor and the pastor does not even know their name because he has so many that he can not possibly keep up with them?
Calipari

Lexington, KY

#21 Aug 16, 2009
Proverbs 1:32 Luke 18 13-21 Luke 14 28-30 Luke 14 26-27 Mat 12:34 23:33 Mat 6:2 5 16 15:7 16:3 22:18 23:14 15 23 25 27 29 24:51 Mar7:6 Luke 11:44 12:46 John 9:40 Mat 23:17 23:19 Luke 11:40 24:25 Read these and see why the Bible says that basically these churches should have been split into smaller churches long before they got to this point .These churches are flocked to because they preach the comfort gospel and there is no way for accountability or proper Christian fellowship as described in the Bible.The cancelation of Christmas services in "05 is the perfect example. Before retaliating back and repeating things the pastor said read these verses with an open mind and then reply.I'm not against Christianity,quite the opposite.What I am against is the mismanagement of the gospel.I believe the Bible teaches us to fellowship in numbers in which the members of that assembly if possible to grow but to split when that grouping becomes to the point when those worshipers can't account for each other.An 8,000 member congregation is far past that point and should very well split into many smaller churches to be of better service to their congregations.

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