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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 148143 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#87387 Sep 21, 2012
'It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.'

--Douglas Adams
;)
the dude

Cincinnati, OH

#87388 Sep 21, 2012
It's Freedom of Religion-not fredom from religion- if you don't like my faith, take it up with the Lord

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#87389 Sep 21, 2012
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>You say that like it is a bad thing. Shouldnt we do things for the common good of ALL the people?
I say that like it is a Fantasy that Always devolves into mass graves and a totalitarian rule.... Always... Yes it's a nice feel good Idea but until you line everyone up and put a chip in their head that controls the Human Id that fantasy view Always places power in to the hands of the few or one, That Power Always corrupts and we end up with Mengele, Hitler, Pol Pot and gas chambers, crematoriums and killing fields.... All shouting at the top of their lungs "It's for the Common Good"

Socialism requires perfect people at every level of society, Even in small scale it quickly devolves into ruled and being ruled, Controlled and the Controllers..

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#87390 Sep 21, 2012
spaceship earth_ss wrote:
<quoted text>
So you think somehow Obama could be declared as a dictator of america. I see that has no chance. Now could a Democrate win again and again possibly. How can U.S. be like germany? Are we trying conqure the world, well we do seem to be policeman of the world.
I guess it is possible that some suits could come to your door and say submit to the supreme leader or die. Not saying it could not happen but sure there would be civil war here.
I think the republicans would like to be dictators with all that God stuff and showing off those shiny crosses around their necks.
I think YAA would be ok with a relgious republican supreme
dictator to start the thousand year reign of Jesus.
I'm saying that the Process sets precedent.. Do I know if Obama would do such... No.. But I am of the opinion that his elitist mind set, socialistic views and what I see as a narcissistic world view that given the right condition that he could evolve into what you speak of... I can think of several scenarios that could trigger such... His statements about needing a US Security Force as well armed and funded as the US Military, the moving of the 1st Inf to US soil with orders to support police in-case of a National Emergency, The ability to shut down social media by executive order all put into place a Conditional situation where a all out breakout in the Middle east could lead to a declaration of Marshal Law.. And a first step into the abyss.... Of course it would all be for the Common Good.....

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#87391 Sep 21, 2012
spaceship earth_ss wrote:
Manipuate the tax code?
By Kim Dixon, Reuters
3 hours ago
WASHINGTON Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his wife, Ann, gave about 30 percent of their $13.7 million in 2011 income to charity, but did not take the full write-off, making their effective tax rate higher.
The move, which was contained in Romney's 2011 tax return released on Friday, was described by tax experts as unusual and by the top Senate Democrat as manipulation of the tax code.
"I was in private practice for 40 years and don't know that I ever had a client who said,'I don't want to take all my deductions,'" said David Kautter of American University's Kogod Tax Center, who spent his career at accounting giant Ernst & Young.
Kautter estimated that if Romney had taken the full charitable tax break, his effective tax rate would have been about 10.5 percent. The return showed Romney paid an effective rate of 14.1 percent last year.
During a Republican presidential debate in January, Romney said, "I don't think you want someone as the candidate for president who pays more taxes than he owes."
Yet Romney did just that.
Last week the left was screaming he paid no taxes, now they are screaming he paid to much taxes... And why would anyone wonder why a person would not want to release them... It's a No Win situation if you do...

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#87392 Sep 22, 2012
the dude wrote:
It's Freedom of Religion-not fredom from religion- if you don't like my faith, take it up with the Lord
MY right to freedom OF religion makes me free FROM your religion. Get the concept?
I do not care about YOUR faith until you cross the line and try to FORCE your beliefs on others, which the christian cult does.
A simple question, do you know anything about your god and your jesus?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#87393 Sep 22, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitler was brought to power through Socialism
Hitler was a totalitarian brought to power through fascist authoritarianism.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#87394 Sep 22, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Last week the left was screaming he paid no taxes, now they are screaming he paid to much taxes... And why would anyone wonder why a person would not want to release them... It's a No Win situation if you do...
In that case, since he has nothing to win by not releasing returns, what is his problem?

The evidence so far is that he's been straight on his taxes - but the evidence only covers a couple years. For me the issue isn't what percentage he paid, but who his associates have been.
Those particular individuals of "the left" can scream all they want - their returns have stories of their own to tell.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#87395 Sep 22, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
I say that like it is a Fantasy that Always devolves into mass graves and a totalitarian rule.... Always... Yes it's a nice feel good Idea but until you line everyone up and put a chip in their head that controls the Human Id that fantasy view Always places power in to the hands of the few or one, That Power Always corrupts and we end up with Mengele, Hitler, Pol Pot and gas chambers, crematoriums and killing fields.... All shouting at the top of their lungs "It's for the Common Good"
Socialism requires perfect people at every level of society, Even in small scale it quickly devolves into ruled and being ruled, Controlled and the Controllers..
We've already had "small scale" socialism for a century. Government controls the key parts of industry and society. DOT, FCC, DOE, etc. regulate\control transportation, electrical distribution, communication, education....

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#87396 Sep 22, 2012
spaceship earth_ss wrote:
Manipuate the tax code?
By Kim Dixon, Reuters
3 hours ago
WASHINGTON Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his wife, Ann, gave about 30 percent of their $13.7 million in 2011 income to charity, but did not take the full write-off, making their effective tax rate higher.
The move, which was contained in Romney's 2011 tax return released on Friday, was described by tax experts as unusual and by the top Senate Democrat as manipulation of the tax code.
"I was in private practice for 40 years and don't know that I ever had a client who said,'I don't want to take all my deductions,'" said David Kautter of American University's Kogod Tax Center, who spent his career at accounting giant Ernst & Young.
Kautter estimated that if Romney had taken the full charitable tax break, his effective tax rate would have been about 10.5 percent. The return showed Romney paid an effective rate of 14.1 percent last year.
During a Republican presidential debate in January, Romney said, "I don't think you want someone as the candidate for president who pays more taxes than he owes."
Yet Romney did just that.
Romney didn't take a salary as governor or from the Olympics, either. The personal practice of "take what you need and leave the rest" is not a villainy.
well

United States

#87397 Sep 22, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
I say that like it is a Fantasy that Always devolves into mass graves and a totalitarian rule.... Always... Yes it's a nice feel good Idea but until you line everyone up and put a chip in their head that controls the Human Id that fantasy view Always places power in to the hands of the few or one, That Power Always corrupts and we end up with Mengele, Hitler, Pol Pot and gas chambers, crematoriums and killing fields.... All shouting at the top of their lungs "It's for the Common Good"
Socialism requires perfect people at every level of society, Even in small scale it quickly devolves into ruled and being ruled, Controlled and the Controllers..
Socialism is good, if you're a honey bee. If you're a human then not so much. A system based on individual rights makes sense for a species of individual free thinkers. Misplaced compassion seems to be screwing up the whole individual rights concept. A guy has the right to sit on his ass all day if he wants to, but with individual rights comes individual responsibility. You have to be allowed to suffer the consequenses of your decisions.
The only thing that I really want from government is to be left alone, unless I need a cop, a soldier or a fireman. I know there is an arguement about roads. But, just consider that those government financed interstates may be one of the main reasons for the rapid economic growth of the country that created the top heavy economic structure that has caused such a rapid consumption of natural reasources and polluting of our environment.

Equality is the lie that governments use to sell their populations socialism.
well

United States

#87398 Sep 22, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
We've already had "small scale" socialism for a century. Government controls the key parts of industry and society. DOT, FCC, DOE, etc. regulate\control transportation, electrical distribution, communication, education....
I haven't read the thread. What brand of socialism are you advocating?
well

United States

#87399 Sep 22, 2012
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
'It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.'
--Douglas Adams
;)
So, treat the presidency like jury duty?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#87400 Sep 22, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitler was a totalitarian brought to power through fascist authoritarianism.
Fascism is Socialism.... Hitler was a Socialist brought to power through socialism and was the end result of Socialism... Totalitarian Rule is and shall alway be the end result of socialism...

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#87401 Sep 22, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
In that case, since he has nothing to win by not releasing returns, what is his problem?
The evidence so far is that he's been straight on his taxes - but the evidence only covers a couple years. For me the issue isn't what percentage he paid, but who his associates have been.
Those particular individuals of "the left" can scream all they want - their returns have stories of their own to tell.
But from what I have heard we are too disregard Obama's associations with domestic terrorists, racist preachers, Convicted Felons and radical socialists & communists ....

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#87402 Sep 22, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
But from what I have heard we are too disregard Obama's associations with domestic terrorists, racist preachers, Convicted Felons and radical socialists & communists ....
If you believe all of that you are stupid. Believe the propaganda from racist and people who wish to lord over you like a sheep

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#87403 Sep 22, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
We've already had "small scale" socialism for a century. Government controls the key parts of industry and society. DOT, FCC, DOE, etc. regulate\control transportation, electrical distribution, communication, education....
No we have not has small scale socialism except for a few now defunked communes scattered about in the 60's.. We have had Socialistic Policies supported by a Capitalist based economic system... A Small Scale Socialist experiment would be Jones Town... A Small scale socialist construct requires that it Not be supported by a capitalist system... In the US we have implemented Socialist programs that are not self supporting and require a Capitalist Economic system to keep it funded.. Take away the Capitalist system and any Socialist construct will quickly become a totalitarian rule.. You take away that capitalist system when the system reaches a point that the Capitalist System cannot provide the requirements of the socialist programs and it collapses.. Once that happens and The Policies of a Socialistic Governance must be curtailed the dependent classes get annoyed and clamor for their "Fair Share" at which point the Socialist State must maintain order and it very quickly devolves into totalitarian or dictatorial rule... "For the Greater Good" of course...

History Proves I'm Right....

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#87404 Sep 22, 2012
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>If you believe all of that you are stupid. Believe the propaganda from racist and people who wish to lord over you like a sheep
Nope... I actually have taken the time to read the assorted peoples own words, looked up their writings and seen them speak on camera...

Rev Wright is a Racist... His sermons and writings speak for them selves...

Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn are Domestic Terrorist that set bombs and attempted Murder of police officers...

David Axelrod was raised a communist with a mother that wrote for a communist newspaper in Chicago.

Carl Davidson was a Maoist and open Communist

Jeff Jones was the co founder of the Weathermen and Co Author of the Presidents Stimulus bill

And the list can Go on and On with Noted Socialists, Communists, Domestic Terrorists and Criminals... And I can read in every case a long history of Associations with each and everyone of them to Obama and his rise through their support and financial input.

The Obama's have supplied a narrative of his life that is just not true... He was not a poor black man just helping the needy... When he was Helping the Needy he didn't live with them, he lived in an exclusive neighborhood in Chicago and took cases for slum landlords in the areas he professed to serve... He Attended prestigious universities and received financial support from Khalid al-Mansour while at Harvard... We don't know how he received any other funding to attend such schools because those records are not provided.

But any rational individual would question how an admitted dope smoking, coke using high school party guy went being raised by a communist mother, sent to live with admitted socialist grand parents moved through the Associations of his past to become President of the United States.... His Today Narrative does not ring true...

I'm not a big Romney supporter, Was never a big Bush supporter and would love to see a Individual running for office that I really could rally behind.... But Obama is someone that I could not support and would not vote for if he was running against Fill in The Blank... I see him as one of the most dangerous people in America to the concept of Individual Liberty....
for real

New Haven, KY

#87405 Sep 22, 2012
As I said before , give me the other option of none of the above.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#87406 Sep 22, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope... I actually have taken the time to read the assorted peoples own words, looked up their writings and seen them speak on camera...
Rev Wright is a Racist... His sermons and writings speak for them selves...
Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn are Domestic Terrorist that set bombs and attempted Murder of police officers...
David Axelrod was raised a communist with a mother that wrote for a communist newspaper in Chicago.
Carl Davidson was a Maoist and open Communist
Jeff Jones was the co founder of the Weathermen and Co Author of the Presidents Stimulus bill
And the list can Go on and On with Noted Socialists, Communists, Domestic Terrorists and Criminals... And I can read in every case a long history of Associations with each and everyone of them to Obama and his rise through their support and financial input.
The Obama's have supplied a narrative of his life that is just not true... He was not a poor black man just helping the needy... When he was Helping the Needy he didn't live with them, he lived in an exclusive neighborhood in Chicago and took cases for slum landlords in the areas he professed to serve... He Attended prestigious universities and received financial support from Khalid al-Mansour while at Harvard... We don't know how he received any other funding to attend such schools because those records are not provided.
But any rational individual would question how an admitted dope smoking, coke using high school party guy went being raised by a communist mother, sent to live with admitted socialist grand parents moved through the Associations of his past to become President of the United States.... His Today Narrative does not ring true...
I'm not a big Romney supporter, Was never a big Bush supporter and would love to see a Individual running for office that I really could rally behind.... But Obama is someone that I could not support and would not vote for if he was running against Fill in The Blank... I see him as one of the most dangerous people in America to the concept of Individual Liberty....
First, I do not support Obama, but am tired of Fox News lies. I do not support Romney, we are just screwed!

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