Turn in drug and related dealers and ...
LLAMF

United States

#81 Jan 21, 2011
bahaha wrote:
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hahaha even tho thats bad it still made me laughh hahahhahaha
LOLZZZZZ
Hmmmm

United States

#82 Jan 21, 2011
sirhc wrote:
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How do you establish probable cause with random witnesses and hearsay? Wouldn't all of this evidence be thrown out of court at a suppression hearing? If you can't meet your accusers face to face, then the case can also be thrown out.
So if I call the tip line, and give you 10 random addresses of supposed LSD dealers, would you really go searching all 10 of these homes, only to discover that drug dealers are giving you false information in order to keep your hands tied up?
The tip line system just seems like it has to many holes in it to be effective, especially towards someone who has the courage to take something to trial.
It also helps murderers, child molesters, and drug dealers get out of jail free on technicalities.
How do you verify the integrity of a random witness on the phone? You can't, thus probable cause would not be established.
Nice breakdown :)
Alrite

United States

#83 Jan 21, 2011
sirhc wrote:
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Now this quack only drinks water. Tell me another lie...
You would allow me to spit on you because you would be to intimidated to do anything about it. You would be in the wrong for snooping, and you know it. If you'll take spit in the hair voluntarily, then you would also take a fart to the mouth. Your statement makes you appear as some sort of man bodily fluid receptacle. Lets see who has the real criminal mentality here. An unarmed convict spits on you for snapping shots of his personal life, and you shoot him in the chest, not once, but twice. If I didn't cause physical injury to you in this scenario, and I'm unarmed, and you shot me, you would be looking at a murder case, not manslaughter, and no, the public would not view you as a hero. I can hear it now "...but officer he spit on me, and destroyed my expensive camera on his own property...". Not to mention the fact that you premeditated the event, and posted it online. You would be looking a life with the possibility of death.
On a side note, aggravated assault would be eaten up by the felony charge, so in a since it would be non-existent.
Tell your dead mother I know a good necromancer. Well, he can't really bring her back to life, but he can show her a good time. Well, he couldn't show her a good time, but she could lay there while he gave it to her the same way you give it to little boys. Oh, I forgot to mention that he's black. It doesn't matter, because by this time she's probably dark skinned also lol.
yay!
Anonymous

Lexington, KY

#84 Jan 22, 2011
Poster Child wrote:
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The thing about probable cause is that it's not set in stone - itís not even laid forth in paper. It's in the 14th amendment but nowhere does it line out what exactly constitutes probable cause. The answer is that it exists at the discretion of the officer, agent, judge etc. So, what this means is that if an officer decides that an anonymous tip is probable cause, he/she can do so. If an arrest is made and it goes to trial, itís up to the defense attorney, if he chooses that legal strategy, to argue that the anonymous tip was not probable cause and hope that the judge/ jury agrees. An anonymous tip is not evidence, evidence is still needed; itís just a means of obtaining that evidence. So anonymous tips can and do lead to convictions, very frequently.
I'm not choosing a side, here - I'm just providing the information as I know it. I've spent a lot of time in a court room, but on the good side of the law.
I for one think that you provide a great service to the community, especially if you take pride in your work. I prefer not to use public defenders when I'm in trouble because you never know who you are going to get. There are some amazing ones, and then there are some who seem to be working for the prosecutor oddly.

As for probable cause. A Lexington man was released from prison because the cops entered his home after smelling marijuana. They searched his house and found cocaine, marijuana, and a gun I believe. The supreme court released this man because although they smelled marijuana, they still had no legal right to enter his home, arrest him, or use any evidence they found during the search.

The way I understand probable cause, is that it's up to the discretion of the officer, but must be verified by the judge at the preliminary hearing in order to hold the accused in jail. Probable cause is not evidence, but it is a means of arresting someone so that they can be formally charged.

Probable cause is not random tips. At the preliminary hearing, if an officer arrested somebody because someone on a tip line said that the defendant had drugs, the judge would bitch him out so hardcore.

Since: Dec 10

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#85 Jan 23, 2011
Officer wrote:
I hope you citizens realize that we do read these posts. Topix has been quite helpful with providing leads. Granted we have to have probable cause to search and make arrests. Posts on this site have helped us to know where to watch. A major crime doesn't have to occur for us to be able to put an area under close watch. The recent string of robberies and winter weather have impacted our drug task force. This doesn't mean that we are turning a blind eye. Remember you can always submit a tip via the Bluegrass Crime Stoppers website. All tips are followed up on and just because instant action isn't taken does not mean that we neglected the tip.
BULLSHIT PROOF IS IN THE PUTTIN. SO FAR YOU GUYS RE A JOKE

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#86 Jan 23, 2011
1 more thing. You say that, as the people I mentioned before are still walking the streets. Convicted felons on parole, slingin it. Have been for years.You guys have been told, offered help, and all I have seen, are lost oppurtunities.To date, you have been deemed mostly inneffective. Surely it doesnt take a brain surgeon with the info you have been given to get these guys off the streets.
Anonymous

Lexington, KY

#87 Jan 23, 2011
gtownguy wrote:
1 more thing. You say that, as the people I mentioned before are still walking the streets. Convicted felons on parole, slingin it. Have been for years.You guys have been told, offered help, and all I have seen, are lost oppurtunities.To date, you have been deemed mostly inneffective. Surely it doesnt take a brain surgeon with the info you have been given to get these guys off the streets.
If those guys you were complaining about were slingin' the "Officers" drug of choice, I'm sure he would go there and handle the situation.
-_- seriously

Lexington, KY

#88 Jan 24, 2011
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs#Cos...

Costs to taxpayers

A 2008 study by Harvard economist Jeffrey A. Miron has estimated that legalizing drugs would inject $76.8 billion a year into the U.S. economy ó$44.1 billion from law enforcement savings, and at least $32.7 billion in tax revenue ($6.7 billion from marijuana,$22.5 billion from cocaine and heroin, remainder from other drugs).[67][68] Recent surveys help to confirm the consensus among economists to reform drug policy in the direction of decriminalization and legalization.[69]

War on Fail has failed. Now to clarify, I don't condone the use of anything, but pot. BUT, this so called war is a complete failure and other countries have proved making it a health problem is a better way of going about it.
piss-off

United States

#89 Feb 20, 2011
I want americus and sumter drugs task force to catch someone who think their to smart in 200 tom hall circle kenneth mann. Please have d.f.c.s. with you for child indangerment weed smoked in front of them please show him.
Kammysdad08

United States

#90 Feb 23, 2011
I think snitches are bitches and they need their head split but that's my opinion if it happens to you you should have known better then to be a tattle tell your alls family didn't raise you right
Madparents

United States

#91 Dec 11, 2011
Tony Charmello and Shawn Davis.....two well known meth Dealers in the kansas city,Missouri area. They need to be stopped!
viola

Lexington, KY

#92 Dec 19, 2011
someone better call CHARLIE LOCKHART and slap the cop-dick out of his mouth so he can get back on lexington police payroll. BITCH!
I hate ppl like u

Louisville, KY

#93 Dec 19, 2011
sirhc wrote:
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I would turn in your mother. First I would buy a Ten dollar rock of crack, then I would place it on her front porch. I would then call the police and tell them that your mother is in possession of cocaine. When the cops come, they arrest your mother for having crack on the porch, charge her with a felony, and I get $200. I would testify against your mother and say that I saw her drop the crack on the porch when she realized the police were there.
Tell your mom I said Hi.
Ur a poor excuse for a human being and def smart ass and u need ur ass stomped..i hate ppl like u..for ppl like u to come on a site like this just to be a smart ass cause u dont have a damn life and trust me bitch, if i knew u..i would kick ur ass u worthless piece of shit
get what you deserve

Bowling Green, KY

#94 Dec 19, 2011
I hate ppl like u wrote:
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Ur a poor excuse for a human being and def smart ass and u need ur ass stomped..i hate ppl like u..for ppl like u to come on a site like this just to be a smart ass cause u dont have a damn life and trust me bitch, if i knew u..i would kick ur ass u worthless piece of shit
You are the POS. Do I need to spell it out?
Wake Up

Lexington, KY

#95 Dec 20, 2011
Citizen spys..TSA...whats next? Calm down and get on the cattle car, everything is gonna be okay. Yea okay Hilter...

Wake up
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prisonplanet.com
Wake Up

Lexington, KY

#96 Dec 20, 2011
Dont worry your next. Prisonplanet.com
mrs reynolds

Lexington, KY

#97 Dec 20, 2011
Thephotoguy wrote:
I was going to respond to each of you but you two are beyond stupid so it's pointless. You don't like that I turn in dealers all I can say is, boo F'ing who.

Oh and your jeep what year and model is it and how many miles does it have? If it's worth a crap I'll buy it but don't expect blue book.
Would you be interested in an old jeep Cherokee? It's had a rough life, but it's special..... It's steering wheel is on the other side like a European version or something!
hello there

Latonia, KY

#98 Dec 20, 2011
Or a mail truck.
mrs reynolds

Lexington, KY

#99 Dec 20, 2011
hello there wrote:
Or a mail truck.
Ha!! Actually, I think it was used as a mail truck at one time!..... I think
booya

Worthville, KY

#100 Dec 21, 2011
Haha, you all are too funny! Fighting with each other but in the same message talking about a jeep like your best friends. It just seemed funny to me.

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