Open Carry in KY questions
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socurious

Shepherdsville, KY

#1 Aug 24, 2012
Just curious about open carrying in KY. I don't yet have a ccdw (will probably get it later this year).

If I'm in my truck, can I wear my loaded gun in a belt holster unconcealed? For example, I'm out and about and am wearing, do I have to remove it from my person when I get inside the vehicle? If I'm wearing it and am sitting in a truck, it's not really concealed, but it's not very visible if I were to be pulled over.

Secondly, I've heard I can just leave it loaded in my passenger seat. Does that sound right?

I have read that I can't put it loaded and under my seat and that the glove box is OK. Do I understand that correctly? Thanks in advance
Bob

Ft Mitchell, KY

#2 Aug 24, 2012
Under the circumstances you've described, I think you would be okay without a CDW. The gun must be readily visible, except it may be kept in the glovebox or other factory-installed storage compartment (a recent revision to Kentucky law). It makes no difference whether or not the firearm is loaded. I can't imagine an officer having an issue with the firearm unconcealed in a belt holster (assuming you didn't have a shirt or jacket covering it), though it's still subjective, but I would certainly recommend making the officer aware of the firearm should you ever get stopped. Take care!
socurious

Shepherdsville, KY

#3 Aug 24, 2012
Thanks for the reply. I didn't see a direct reason why I couldn't carry it holstered while driving...but although it's not concealed, I really don't think anyone could see it unless they were looking through the passenger window. I just want to stay within the law so as to avoid any potential problems.

Has anyone here been stopped with a holstered or cdw firearm? Were there any issues with police? It's legal, of course, but I'd like to avoid drama if I could. I'm just not interested in upsetting the apple cart for the fun of it.
PooPooDooDooButt

Richmond, VA

#4 Aug 24, 2012
no offense but maybe you should contact appropriate authorities regarding this as i don't believe that "someone on topix told me it is legal" is an acceptable defense in court
socurious

Shepherdsville, KY

#5 Aug 24, 2012
PooPooDooDooButt wrote:
no offense but maybe you should contact appropriate authorities regarding this as i don't believe that "someone on topix told me it is legal" is an acceptable defense in court
I will keep this in mind when and if I am looking for a court defense on Topix. However, I'm seeking opinions from people who might be more knowledgeable and experienced than me. The second poster seemed to fit the bill. I have a pretty good idea of what is and isn't legal based on my own reading and interpretation of the law - however, other experienced people may help confirm or correct my understanding. I *believe* that I am in the right to open carry with a holster in my automobile, but a second (or third or fourth) opinion is nice.

Additionally, and this isn't always the case, but more often than not you can smell BS on Topix or anywhere. The second poster didn't seem full of BS. I will, however, continue researching the subject.

Oh, btw, I'm not so sure that asking a police officer would get me the right answer either. I find frequently that officers do not know or understand the law they are enforcing. Fortunately they're giving a bit of freedom to do the best they can and sort it out later. If this wasn't the case, they'd be arguing semantics for hours at every crime scene haha...
billbo

United States

#6 Aug 24, 2012
You cannot leave it under the seat or on your hip in the vehicle without a ccdw license. However, you can leave it on your passenger seat, dash board, rear windshield, or console/glove box without a ccdw license.

Basically it needs to be visible or out of direct reach when a police officer is walking up to the drivers side of your vehicle if you dont have a ccdw license.

Ive had my ccdw license for 4 years and its well worth the time and $ to not have to worry about the nuances in the law.
i was told this

United States

#7 Aug 24, 2012
State Police told me when in my vehicle it has to be where it takes two moves to get to it.Locked clovebox is the best place to have it.One move is to unlock the glovebox and the 2nd move is to open the glovebox.
EMT210

Lexington, KY

#8 Aug 24, 2012
I just took a CCDW class today and I asked this same question of its on your side in a holster fully open it's concealed when your in the seat of your Truck...until you get your cc license when in your truck put it In the glove box.
oic

United States

#9 Aug 25, 2012
EMT210 wrote:
I just took a CCDW class today and I asked this same question of its on your side in a holster fully open it's concealed when your in the seat of your Truck...until you get your cc license when in your truck put it In the glove box.
I don't have a truck and my van don't have a glovebox
Here

Batavia, OH

#10 Aug 25, 2012
Well

Louisville, KY

#11 Aug 25, 2012
In a vehicle it's best to be out of reach and put away (glovebox, trunk). If you have a CCDW it can be anywhere you want it. In a van just pray you get a understanding cop or keep it in a plastic gun box like they come in.

Keep in mind that a cop can say at any time that the gun was concealed from their sight. If you're standing outside with a gun on your hip and your shirt/jacket covers it any or you're turned a way they can't see it, they can call it concealed. It's best to have the CCDW and cover yourself completely. Although its BS that we should have to do it, the cost is way less than if you get busted for carrying.
soup

United States

#12 Aug 25, 2012
There is no minimum movement laws regarding a firearm in your vehicle. To be safe just take it out of holster and make sure it's in plain sight, if you don't have a glovebox or center console. Wont take a second, and If you are stopped, it will likely make sense with you having an empty holster on your side.
Justin

United States

#13 Oct 28, 2012
Yes your allowed to have it on your person,(properly holstered, unloaded or loaded) visibly open...I carry everywhere in KY urban and rural. Just don't carry on K-12 school grounds, courthouses, and detention centers...Stay off of Government property to.
Justin

United States

#14 Oct 28, 2012
You don't have to inform Law Enforcement of it either unless they ask.
Dude

Versailles, KY

#15 Oct 30, 2012
i was told this wrote:
State Police told me when in my vehicle it has to be where it takes two moves to get to it.Locked clovebox is the best place to have it.One move is to unlock the glovebox and the 2nd move is to open the glovebox.
This is an old rumor that has been around for a long time. It is wrong. It is not law and never has been. I do not believe you were told this by a state trooper. The police very often get the law wrong but I refuse to believe any trooper would actually tell this to you as being law.
Thanks

Winchester, KY

#16 Oct 30, 2012
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
This is an old rumor that has been around for a long time. It is wrong. It is not law and never has been. I do not believe you were told this by a state trooper. The police very often get the law wrong but I refuse to believe any trooper would actually tell this to you as being law.
Thanks for the link. I too was under the impression you could not have a loaded weapon in the glove box or center console without being cited.
Legion1776

Ashburn, VA

#17 Nov 24, 2012
socurious wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I didn't see a direct reason why I couldn't carry it holstered while driving...but although it's not concealed, I really don't think anyone could see it unless they were looking through the passenger window. I just want to stay within the law so as to avoid any potential problems.
Has anyone here been stopped with a holstered or cdw firearm? Were there any issues with police? It's legal, of course, but I'd like to avoid drama if I could. I'm just not interested in upsetting the apple cart for the fun of it.
I actually got pulled over recently with my carry in a hip holster, don't have my CCW just yet. I made sure to inform the officer of my weapon before even handing him my ID, and all they did was run the make and serial on the weapon and sent me on my way. Just make sure the authorities know about your weapon!
scoobs

Mount Washington, KY

#18 Nov 24, 2012
Legion1776 wrote:
<quoted text>
and all they did was run the make and serial on the weapon and sent me on my way.
Why did you let them do that? They had no reason to believe you were breaking the law or that your gun might have been stolen. Did they also take your finger prints to make sure you are who you say your are? How about you dna? Did you let them scan the microchip in your dog just to make sure he hadn't been stolen?
Get some backbone, man.
Helpful citizen

Louisville, KY

#19 Nov 25, 2012
I have this printed out and laminated and keep it on me all the time the is the state law for Kentucky.

KRS 527.020(8) states in part that:
"A loaded or unloaded firearm or other deadly weapon shall not be deemed concealed on or about the person if it is located in any enclosed container, compartment, or storage space installed as original equipment in a motor vehicle by its manufacturer, including but not limited to a glove compartment, center console, or seat pocket, regardless of whether said enclosed container, storage space, or compartment is locked, unlocked, or does not have a locking mechanism. No person or organization, public or private, shall prohibit a person from keeping a loaded or unloaded firearm or ammunition, or both, or other deadly weapon in a vehicle in accordance with the provisions of this subsection. Any attempt by a person or organization, public or private, to violate the provisions of this subsection may be the subject of an action for appropriate relief or for damages in a Circuit Court or District Court of competent jurisdiction. This subsection shall not apply to any person prohibited from possessing a firearm pursuant to KRS 527.040."
Bill

Richmond, KY

#20 Dec 9, 2012
I've been a cop for 14 years.
You CAN wear your weapon UNCOVERED on your hip in a holster while you drive your car.
It's not "concealed" just because it's not on display on the side I'm standing on. That's nonsense.
The whole thing about a gun being in the glovebox, center console, etc is just defining where a gun can be kept in the car if you are not wearing it.
Also, the "two step/motion" thing is a fallacy.

Be careful where you get your advice, as this board is full of idiots.

Again, just because it's not holstered on the side I'm standing on, DOES NOT MEAN IT IS "CONCEALED" BY LAW.

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