Bible study rules for public schools ...

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 180209 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#115903 Oct 31, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not provide excuses for believing in my God. I provide reasons,as you well know ,as you have read them.
It is you Atheists ,Khartu ,Wichetty ,Dukette and Chroe ,all better known as "the mentally Insolvent" who ,quite unable to provide any semilucid arguments for your beliefs , can only beg for more time......
Nope, you have never provided any reason.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#115904 Oct 31, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not provide excuses for believing in my God. I provide reasons,as you well know ,as you have read them.
It is you Atheists ,Khartu ,Wichetty ,Dukette and Chroe ,all better known as "the mentally Insolvent" who ,quite unable to provide any semilucid arguments for your beliefs , can only beg for more time......
My belief of your god being of myth need only have the moral compass to understand killing due to ones religious beliefs is most immoral.
My unbelief of god or gods is due to the lack of evidence for any gods and the evidence of the claimed gods being highly immoral and improbable.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#115905 Oct 31, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not provide excuses for believing in my God. I provide reasons,as you well know ,as you have read them.
It is you Atheists ,Khartu ,Wichetty ,Dukette and Chroe ,all better known as "the mentally Insolvent" who ,quite unable to provide any semilucid arguments for your beliefs , can only beg for more time......
What is your reason for not believing in Islam or Hinduism?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#115906 Oct 31, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I answered your question before . Atheists are not fit to teach bible class since they do not believe the bible.
Are you,Moronic?
Why would I hire an attorney to represent me, who openly states that he does not believe in my innocence?
.
Most lawyers know they are defending the guilty.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#115907 Oct 31, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not provide excuses for believing in my God. I provide reasons,as you well know ,as you have read them.
It is you Atheists ,Khartu ,Wichetty ,Dukette and Chroe ,all better known as "the mentally Insolvent" who ,quite unable to provide any semilucid arguments for your beliefs , can only beg for more time......
Atheism is not a belief, it is non belief. The reasons for this are listed on this tread daily. One being, their is absolutely zero evidence a god existed. Why do you not believe in Zeus?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#115908 Oct 31, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>What is your reason for not believing in Islam or Hinduism?
The voices in his head?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#115909 Oct 31, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Just returning the same back unto the same.
So you are a fan of OT thinking, an eye for an eye.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#115910 Oct 31, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>What is your reason for not believing in Islam or Hinduism?
You keep throwing up smokescreens and stink bombs in order to avoid the issue in question . Why I do not believe in Hinduism or Islam is not the issue in question.
You have gone to great lengths to explain what you don;t believe in.
What you consistently fail to do is explain what it is you do believe in,other than claiming "SCIENCE"

1) Do you believe ,as some do ,that Nothing spontaneously created something out of nothing , thus creating the Universe and life as we know it? If so, why do you believe that may be possible
or
2)Do you believe that nonliving , noninteligentg and nonconscious matter was able to spontaneously attain those miraculous properties
and convert itself into living,intelligent and conscious matter?
If so, then explain how that may be possible.
Or ,do you have another explanation that you would like to share with us

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#115911 Oct 31, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You keep throwing up smokescreens and stink bombs in order to avoid the issue in question . Why I do not believe in Hinduism or Islam is not the issue in question.
You have gone to great lengths to explain what you don;t believe in.
What you consistently fail to do is explain what it is you do believe in,other than claiming "SCIENCE"
1) Do you believe ,as some do ,that Nothing spontaneously created something out of nothing , thus creating the Universe and life as we know it? If so, why do you believe that may be possible
or
2)Do you believe that nonliving , noninteligentg and nonconscious matter was able to spontaneously attain those miraculous properties
and convert itself into living,intelligent and conscious matter?
If so, then explain how that may be possible.
Or ,do you have another explanation that you would like to share with us
Well I have specifically answered all your questions in the past, but you refuse to acknowledge those answers. I do not believe "nothing" ever existed. But I cannot really know. Not that it has anything to do with my atheism, but that does not stop you from lying about what I believe.

How life started or other unanswered questions of our universe has no bearing on my atheism. The simple fact their is zero evidence of a god is why I do not believe in a god. Why is that above your comprehension level? Are you just stupid, mentally challenged, or just in denial?
The sixth god

United States

#115912 Oct 31, 2013
I think it should be taught free of religious beliefs. It should be learned just as any book.
It is hard to find a Christian that you can talk to about the story's without them pushing there " BELIFES" I too it.
Reading the bible takes a skill of comprehension that is lacked in the churches cariculam.
Possibly due toads incest throught the ages.
I say go for it.
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#115913 Oct 31, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Well I have specifically answered all your questions in the past, but you refuse to acknowledge those answers. I do not believe "nothing" ever existed. But I cannot really know. Not that it has anything to do with my atheism, but that does not stop you from lying about what I believe.
How life started or other unanswered questions of our universe has no bearing on my atheism. The simple fact their is zero evidence of a god is why I do not believe in a god. Why is that above your comprehension level? Are you just stupid, mentally challenged, or just in denial?
If you do not believe that Nothing ever existed , then by logical reasoning you must believe that SOMETHING always existed.
The question is,What is that Something that always existed?

In which case you are left with 2 completely different alternatives.
Either that Something is living, conscious and intelligent or since we know that matter exists,then that Something would be nonliving ,nonintelligent nomnconscious matter,devoid of personhood.
Since it has been established that only life can create life , then one can conclude that that which always existed is a living,intelligent conscious force , that possesing those properties , can in turn pass them on to nonliving nonintelligen and nonconscious matter..That would establish a source as to how we were able to attain those properties.
Or ,we can deny that and claim that a nonintelligent,nonliving,nonco nscious force was able to somehow attain unto these properties ,which are totally alien to this force, and was able somehow create that which it has no ability or knowledge to create.
Either ID is responsible for our being here or we are here because of a huge unexplainable accident caused by a force that is nonliving,nonconscious and lacks the intelligence to create those properties that we all posses.
That is one of the logical reasons why I believe In God.
To beliewve otherwise would be illogical and absurd,
So what we end up with is your claiming that you can not answer my questions because you don't know and my believing in God ,bec ause I have GOOD reason to believe
curious

Winter Garden, FL

#115914 Oct 31, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>One of the most famous and well respected teachers of the bible is an agnostic. Professor Bart Ehrman University North Carolina Chapel Hill.
We were discussing Atheists , you conveniently tried to sneak in an Agnostic

neverthe less ,let us discuss BArt Ehrman's beliefs ; based on an interview with the Christian Post

His defense regarding the historicity of Jesus. In his recent book, Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth, Ehrman takes to task the extreme fringe skeptics (the ‘mythicists’) who say Jesus never existed. While mythicist talk may grace the forums of various internet atheist haunts, you won’t find a credible historian or university who backs such assertions – something Bart demonstrates quite well. Of Jesus, Ehrman says,“One of the most certain facts of history is that Jesus was crucified on orders of the Roman prefect of Judea, Pontius Pilate.”[2]

Moreover, Bart also validates the historical lives of the disciples, Paul, and their claims about seeing Jesus alive. Of course, he denies Christ actually rose from the dead and offers a variety of explanations for what Paul and the other apostles experienced, but he doesn’t deny that something happened to change each of them into defenders of Christianity.

My note; What ever that Experience was, The apostles gave their lives for there beliefs .And their beliefs were based oln their personal experiences

We also need to thank Bart for openly calling out and educating the Church on passages in the Bible that the vast majority of theologians recognize as not being part of the original canon. The longer ending of Mark (16:9-19), the section of the woman caught in adultery in John (7:73-8:11), and the 1 John 5:7-8 Trinitarian formula still found in a few Bible translations are all considered inauthentic by most Biblical scholars. Ehrman is right to remind believers of this fact.

Of course, nearly all Bibles clearly omit or mark these passages as suspect in some way, and skeptics should understand that it is through the science of Biblical criticism that such verses are classified as not being known by the early Church nor inspired by God. Bart is certainly not the first to bring these passages to light.

Lastly, I appreciate Bart’s honesty in the interview where he admits that it is the logical problem of evil that has turned him from belief in God vs. any supposed errors in the Bible. Many unbelievers cover the true source of their disbelief with various smokescreens, but I am impressed that Ehrman does not do this.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#115915 Oct 31, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Just don't ask this guy that, and you'll be fine in your continued delusions of denial.
http://www.wyattmuseum.com/
LOL

Ron Wyatt?

Even Christians say he was a fraud.

You do know he's dead, don't you?

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#115916 Oct 31, 2013
SistaNoneYa wrote:
<quoted text>
Y'all's kind would try to tell anyone that would lend an ear to the foolishness that spews from within you-that Mt Sinai didn't exist-while standing in front of it.
Shameful lot of heathens.
Why do you lie? Is it lies for Jesus week?

Here's exactly what I said....
Khatru wrote:
Moses?
Don't tell me you believe all that stuff about the Israelites in the wilderness and camped at the foot of Mount Sinai?
Where in my post do I claim that Mount Sinai didn't exist?

You must be desperate if you have to invent lies by claiming I said things I never actually did.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#115917 Oct 31, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I will tell you whatI don't believe.
I don't believe that I was created by nothing from nothing or that I evolved from nothing.
I don't believe that the non living,nonintelligent and nonconscious are able ,spontaneously or otherwise ,able to create life,consciousness and intelligence.
The reasonn being that ,as complicated as those qualities are , only a fool would make that claim.
A claim for which they can provide no evidence whatsoever ,only wishful thinking...
You have had the opportunity to address that issue and to do it in a sensical manner....You all have failed to do so.
So now you want to talk about Moses, another subject that you are illequipped to discuss....
Krishna loves you.

If only you would open your heart to Krishna, the divine avatar of Lord Vishnu, then you too can experience enlightenment.

All I want is to help you on your way to Krishna Consciousness, so that you will learn that Hinduism is the one true faith.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#115918 Oct 31, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
Well the Huffington Post is a safe link but here's the headline. Christian Science Church In Illinois Looks Exactly Like A Penis (Oops?)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/29/chri...
You can't tell me that they didn't know what they were doing when they built it. They even put a huge tree right where it needed to be to finish it off. Just Google church penis and it'll show you plenty of links you can chose from or look it up yourself on Google Earth.
You know how big believers are on masculinity.

It's clear to me that they intended their church to look like a giant dong.

Oh holy, holy, holy!!!
SistaNoneYaBiz

London, KY

#115919 Oct 31, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
Well the Huffington Post is a safe link but here's the headline. Christian Science Church In Illinois Looks Exactly Like A Penis (Oops?)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/29/chri...
You can't tell me that they didn't know what they were doing when they built it. They even put a huge tree right where it needed to be to finish it off. Just Google church penis and it'll show you plenty of links you can chose from or look it up yourself on Google Earth.
Out of Illinois, not surprising.

(just look at the history Of!)
eddiefrander

Donora, PA

#115920 Oct 31, 2013
youtube.com/watch... ………………… Amazing it is
SistaNoneYaBiz

London, KY

#115921 Oct 31, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
There is your worship of the region shining through like june bugs on a screen door again. I've never seen anyone gush over rocks and dust quite like you do. Makes me wonder if you smoke a cigarette after posting about middle east landmarks.
I dare say that millions of people have viewed Mt. Sinai up close with their own eyes. That is hardly an amazing accomplishment. Why should I be surprised that you seem to think that the yardstick of accuracy is finding a publisher? Oh, gotcha. It's that OCD name dropping thing, I wouldn't understand.
I just realize, it's not the first (or only) web discussing the science of archeology and the finds thereof.

And if you wish to discuss other arheologically interesting regions, then just say so.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#115922 Oct 31, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
You keep throwing up smokescreens and stink bombs in order to avoid the issue in question . Why I do not believe in Hinduism or Islam is not the issue in question.
You have gone to great lengths to explain what you don;t believe in.
What you consistently fail to do is explain what it is you do believe in,other than claiming "SCIENCE"
1) Do you believe ,as some do ,that Nothing spontaneously created something out of nothing , thus creating the Universe and life as we know it? If so, why do you believe that may be possible
or
2)Do you believe that nonliving , noninteligentg and nonconscious matter was able to spontaneously attain those miraculous properties
and convert itself into living,intelligent and conscious matter?
If so, then explain how that may be possible.
Or ,do you have another explanation that you would like to share with us
1. a.) Something out of an energetic nothing is far more plausible than an omnipotent Semitic God that looks and thinks just like a human being out of nothing.
1.b.) The universe as we know it and life as we know it are two completely different and separate things.
2.a.)Only apologists advance the ridiculous notion that life went from a stone rolling down a hill to a Maserati in one leap, either spontaneously or artificially.
2.b.) You are not receptive to anything other than the Genesis myth. If you were interested in science, you wouldn't make it a practice of misrepresenting it. Mind your ethics, CINO.

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