$1.2 billion in untaxed property

Full story: The Indianapolis Star

Churches make up the largest chunk of tax-exempt property in Marion County -- by far.
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Gunny

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Aug 19, 2007
 
This article presents another very good reason to abolish property taxes and to raise the required revenues through consumption taxes. Everyone pays the same. And make the different taxing districts "transparent" and responsible to the citizens through referendems for spending increases.
DMC

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Aug 19, 2007
 
Actually, the article presents very good arguments for taxing churches. It is ridiculous that they are exempt!
Jody

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Aug 19, 2007
 
Living in Fountain County, where there is nothing but family owned business and churches, I think this taxing of churches is long overdue.

Perhaps there would then be some relief for two retiree's living on a fixed income and now being taxed over $100,000 more in taxes on a house with no woodwork and doors, a gravel road and that is worth $100,000 less then we were appraised at.
Rick in Avon

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Aug 19, 2007
 
"It's not about the church...it's about fairness" ????? How about business's that don't pay taxes? Oh it's about the MONEY, IT ALWAYS IS.

Churches do far more community work through giving and volenteering than most people realize. And this is paid for by the church from after tax dollars collected on Sunday.

Mayor Peterson attended the 4th annual "whatever it was called" Convoy of Hope at Lafayette Square Mall last Saturday and admitted that the city needs events like this. Who payed for such an event that drew nearly 4000 people? That's right...the local church. Among others.

Services provided to our communities would be in jeoprody if chuches had to pay property taxs. What's next...income tax?

Churchs provide activities that our local gov't could not, and would not provide.

Think again!
A sham

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Aug 19, 2007
 
Absolutely - church's should be taxed!

But I'd be happy if the State would just charge a fee for the IGWT license plates so it isn't losing half a million dollars on them a year.

But that's all right - it's ok 'cause it makes everyone so warm and cuddly and righteous.

“BALLARD LIED”

Since: Jul 07

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Aug 19, 2007
 
Gunny wrote:
This article presents another very good reason to abolish property taxes and to raise the required revenues through consumption taxes. Everyone pays the same. And make the different taxing districts "transparent" and responsible to the citizens through referendems for spending increases.
Any church with a 501-3c tax exempt would not be paying any sales tax so stop trying to spin the subject. A tax for Fire and police protection should be paid by everyone. A church does not pay for my food, health insurance, clothing, cars, home, property tax or any other bills I have. So it is time for them as a memebers of the community to step up to the plate and start paying something. I still support tax exempt for the church its self property that is used for the sole purpose of its worship service however that is where my support ends.
Whocares

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Aug 19, 2007
 
Do schools pay property taxes on their athletic fields? This argument is bull, just another excuse to tax/raise money/spend. They just got a big infusion due to the reassessment and they still can't make ends meet. The real problem is runaway spending and nobody wants to talk about that. The property tax needs to be abolished. Why can the government take something away from me that I paid for due to taxes? So wrong...

Since: Jul 07

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Aug 19, 2007
 
If churches want to keep their tax exempt status, then they must be required to stay out of the political area! They can't have it both ways... meddling in politics and preaching.. and no matter what, let them pay a fee for fire dept usage... there is no reason it should be free! And only the church proper should be tax free, none of the "church owned" property.. too long have the religious been sponging off everyone...and not just the churches but all religious groups!
Tom

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Aug 19, 2007
 
Why focus on churches? Why not do a story on the tens of billions of dollars in farm ground that is being under taxed. Why is farm ground that sells for $10,000 an acre only assed at $800. That would be like having a 200,000 house being assed at only $1,600. Also what about state owned porperty that cannot be taxed by the local governments?
Tom

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Aug 19, 2007
 
The amount in the above example should have been $16,000 not $1,600.
Mike M

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Aug 19, 2007
 
Hi, I am with the government and I'm here to help. If our government gets more money from taxes, I promise that we will use it wisely. Please don't bring up the fact that my office has had 2 sr. managers fired for improper use of government (aka taxpayer funds). Please don't confuse me with the facts. Yest, I want churches to pay taxes and I promise from the very bottom of my depraved heart to help Indianapolis be all it can be. Trust me, I'm your government representative and I'm here to help.
Mike M

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Aug 19, 2007
 
Shedders wrote:
If churches want to keep their tax exempt status, then they must be required to stay out of the political area! They can't have it both ways... meddling in politics and preaching.. and no matter what, let them pay a fee for fire dept usage... there is no reason it should be free! And only the church proper should be tax free, none of the "church owned" property.. too long have the religious been sponging off everyone...and not just the churches but all religious groups!
The tax exempt laws are very clear about what churches can and cannot do to maintain their non-profit status. Taxing church property is not the solution for Marion County. Marion County homeowners have had a virtual free ride for 40 years and are now complaining because they are paying what the rest of the state's homeowners have been paying for years.
Mary T

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Aug 19, 2007
 
If the state of Indiana would simply tax consumption (e.g. sales tax) and get rid of other taxes, you would see record tax receipts. Unfortunately I don't trust politicos with any $$ to use it wisely. Our government is bureaucratic, inefficient and corrupt in many areas.
Dave in Greenwood

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Aug 19, 2007
 
"The power to tax is the power to destroy."

It's clear from the comments of those who would tax the church, here, that these folks have destruction of the churches clearly in mind.

Churches make neighborhoods better and improve the value of all of the properties surrounding them. This results in an increase in property tax revenue to the local taxing authorities.
Homesick Hoosier

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Aug 19, 2007
 
Churches everywhere should be taxed. Most of them are into politics and use services paid for by other tax payers, etc.
As the last sentence said, it is not about the church, it is about fairness.
Joe

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Aug 19, 2007
 
The goal should be to make everything fair. If it is property, tax it. If you don't think churches have money you're probably not aware of much. It's just another example of church and state in bed together. Would some politicians step up and do the right thing.
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Aug 19, 2007
 
Tom wrote:
The amount in the above example should have been $16,000 not $1,600.
Amen but remember the farmer is going to pass it on to you. But I do firmly believe they are getting by and complaining to High Heaven!
Mike in Avon

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Aug 19, 2007
 
Hey, while we're at it why don't we get rid of the entire bill of rights. I mean we don't really need all of those freedoms, do we? Seriously, if the people making these comments and writing these "stories" put a tenth of the thought that our founding fathers put into this, this article would have never been written or printed.
Mike in Avon

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Aug 19, 2007
 
Shedders wrote:
If churches want to keep their tax exempt status, then they must be required to stay out of the political area! They can't have it both ways... meddling in politics and preaching.. and no matter what, let them pay a fee for fire dept usage... there is no reason it should be free! And only the church proper should be tax free, none of the "church owned" property.. too long have the religious been sponging off everyone...and not just the churches but all religious groups!
Hey Shedders,
If we got the state/county to quit taxing you, would you shut up? No, because it is your right. You've just made a ridiculous statement.
Barry Hampton

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Aug 19, 2007
 
A church is a business.Some fail ,some are highly successful . What makes them different from anyone wanting to establish their own business. I'll tell you the differnce. TAXES !
Churches want to locate in a nice community & want that community to stay that way . One way to ensure that is to pay their fair share.
I say TAX THEM >

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