Derry Twp's. new Sewer line

Derry Twp's. new Sewer line

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#1 Jun 2, 2009


I am starting to hear people crying the blues because they said it will cost them $1000 to connect to it and they have to do it if they want to or not . Well , that's an old song we already heard if you live in an area where they installed the sewer line back in 1973 . You think $1000 is bad , plus the cost of installing your part from the curb. Lets go back to 1973 when you had to pay $10.00/foot of the frontage on your property , meaning if you had a 400 ft frontage on your property you had to pay $4000. Then if the Sewer line ran in front and rear of your property or if you had a corner lot that the sewer line ran on two sides , You had to pay 1/4 of the second length. After that you had to pay $150.00 tap fee but if you paid it in 30 days it was $125.00. Then you also paid the contractor for installing it from the curb as you do now . The sewer rate per quarter was $35.00/quarter and it stayed there for years until it started to go up . Now it is $80.00/quarter for the year 2009 , but look out because of the chesapeake bay the rates are going up and Granville was on a plan to get the rate to $150.00/quarter and Belleville made some changes to bill once a month so they could get their rate up without people defaulting on their bill . Could you imagine getting a $150.00 sewer bill every three months, just sewer not water and sewer. So the new customers getting on the new sewer line , before you start singing them sad songs, consider yourself lucky you do not have to pay like we did 36 years ago . This was a time when people made $2.00 and $3.00 per/hour.
Milroy

Washington Boro, PA

#2 Jun 2, 2009
People always complain about costs, but never focus on the benefits of public sewage. Public sewage is a huge benefit of living in a modern society.

1) The cost of hookup, tap fees is far outweighed by the increase in property value. That is a proven fact.

2)Public sewers prevent health problems too numberous to list. In the dark ages, people lived to 35 if they were lucky. Why? Because they wallowed in their own crap.

3) Septic tanks, sand mounds and private systems fail at a much higher rate than POTW's. If you have a private well, guess what? You will probably be drinking shitwater.

If you are going to complain about costs, your sewer bill should be WAY down on your list.$50 a month is a bargain to avoid going back to the dark ages. A lot of people here spend more than that in a WEEK on beer, cigarettes, lottery tickets or bingo.
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#3 Jun 3, 2009
Milroy wrote:
People always complain about costs, but never focus on the benefits of public sewage. Public sewage is a huge benefit of living in a modern society.
1) The cost of hookup, tap fees is far outweighed by the increase in property value. That is a proven fact.
2)Public sewers prevent health problems too numberous to list. In the dark ages, people lived to 35 if they were lucky. Why? Because they wallowed in their own crap.
3) Septic tanks, sand mounds and private systems fail at a much higher rate than POTW's. If you have a private well, guess what? You will probably be drinking shitwater.
If you are going to complain about costs, your sewer bill should be WAY down on your list.$50 a month is a bargain to avoid going back to the dark ages. A lot of people here spend more than that in a WEEK on beer, cigarettes, lottery tickets or bingo.
Because you wanted to be contradictory as you always seem to be , you missed the main point , People today are not paying their fair share but they still complain . What I wrote above fits right in to obama's speading the wealth plan . Neighbors who spent all that money in 1973 to have that sewer line installed must now help pay for the new customers getting on the same line because they are paying far less at a time when costs are higher . Nothing is free. So if anyone should be complaining , it should be the property owners that paid through the nose while others are able to have the same benefits from the line without paying their fair share . Property values don't change because of who pays , they change if you have public sewer or not .

“Why all the negativity?”

Since: Aug 07

Lewistown, PA

#4 Jun 3, 2009
Lewistown Borough's sewer bills can get pretty salty, but its like any other utility you have no choice so you simply pay it.
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#5 Jun 3, 2009
Milroy wrote:
A lot of people here spend more than that in a WEEK on beer, cigarettes, lottery tickets or bingo.
Yeah , your right but these people are not going to give that up for a sewer line , health insurance , or any of their needs as long as they can get them for a reduced cost or free with others paying their way unless they are forced to do so .
Whatever

Erie, PA

#6 Jun 3, 2009
Where is this sewer line going in Derry township? ALL of Derry township? One could only hope, I would much rather pay a sewage bill than have the constant worry of a septic tank.
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#7 Jun 3, 2009
Whatever wrote:
Where is this sewer line going in Derry township? ALL of Derry township? One could only hope, I would much rather pay a sewage bill than have the constant worry of a septic tank.


A lot of Derry TWP . already has pubic sewer including Glenwood , Dry Valley , and other areas but it is being extended from where they stopped on the east end of Derry Twp . Apparently you don't get out of the house much since it has been going on for some time on Crossover drive and on the back Maitland road . It's not a matter of having a public system or not , It is who is paying for it and who paid for the already installed system 36 years ago at a much higher cost to the residents and now the new customers are conplaining how much it is going to cost them when infact they are getting a good deal at $1000 hook up fee.
Whatever

Erie, PA

#8 Jun 3, 2009
Thanks for the info, you could have handled that without the arrogant remark about getting out of the house. Not everyone drives the Back Maitland Rd or even knows where Crossover Rd is. Why do you have be an insulting idiot all the time? Get over yourself.

Since: Apr 09

Lancaster, PA

#9 Jun 3, 2009
I don't know where you are getting your numbers,but friends of mine are getting this sewer line and they are paying by how much frontage they own.They are paying over $2,000 plus their fee to hook on.Why do you keep going back 35years,get over it.Nobody said life is fair.
Milroy

Harrisburg, PA

#10 Jun 3, 2009
Lillyville wrote:
I don't know where you are getting your numbers,but friends of mine are getting this sewer line and they are paying by how much frontage they own.They are paying over $2,000 plus their fee to hook on.Why do you keep going back 35years,get over it.Nobody said life is fair.
He obviously doesn't know what he is talking about (as usual). Here is an actual lot for sale in Derry Township. As you can see,the sewer tap is over $4300. The water tap is well over $1000.

http://www.sa-re.com/bin/web/real_estate/AR31...

“Why all the negativity?”

Since: Aug 07

Lewistown, PA

#11 Jun 3, 2009
Gee, I wonder if Lewistown Resident perhaps is being a bitter prick because he got "screwed" on sewer prices 36 years ago and now people are getting a "deal" at his expense?
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#12 Jun 3, 2009
JunkE wrote:
Gee, I wonder if Lewistown Resident perhaps is being a bitter prick because he got "screwed" on sewer prices 36 years ago and now people are getting a "deal" at his expense?
yep ,like lots of people getting deals today at taxpayers expense. Spreading the wealth .
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#13 Jun 4, 2009
Milroy wrote:
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He obviously doesn't know what he is talking about (as usual). Here is an actual lot for sale in Derry Township. As you can see,the sewer tap is over $4300. The water tap is well over $1000.
http://www.sa-re.com/bin/web/real_estate/AR31...
Why didn't you use Indian Valley high school as a reference , reason is because the link you posted in South Hills and the high school is not the same situation as the new sewer line in Maitland.
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#14 Jun 4, 2009
Lillyville wrote:
I don't know where you are getting your numbers,but friends of mine are getting this sewer line and they are paying by how much frontage they own.They are paying over $2,000 plus their fee to hook on.Why do you keep going back 35years,get over it.Nobody said life is fair.
Did you read the letter that was sent to property owners ?
Milroy

Harrisburg, PA

#15 Jun 4, 2009
Lewistown Resident wrote:
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Why didn't you use Indian Valley high school as a reference , reason is because the link you posted in South Hills and the high school is not the same situation as the new sewer line in Maitland.
The school doesn't have anything to do with it. Sewer taps are established by the Borough or Township or applicable Sewer Authorities, and must follow DEP guidelines. In the case of Derry Township, it is the DTSSA. Maitland, South Hills, Pleasant Acres, Ort Valley --- or anywhere else in Derry Township fall under the same regs.

Face it, people today are paying a lot of money. A lot more than in the old days.
Whatever

Erie, PA

#16 Jun 4, 2009
I actually own 3 properties in Derry Township and do not have public sewage and NEVER got a letter. None of my neighbors have heard anything either. I have family members that live in and own property (the opposite end as me) and they have not gotten any letter???
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#17 Jun 4, 2009
Whatever wrote:
I actually own 3 properties in Derry Township and do not have public sewage and NEVER got a letter. None of my neighbors have heard anything either. I have family members that live in and own property (the opposite end as me) and they have not gotten any letter???
Then that means you are not in the area they are installing the new line . Who said everyone in the twp is suppose to get a letter ?
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#18 Jun 4, 2009
Milroy wrote:
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The school doesn't have anything to do with it.
Face it, people today are paying a lot of money. A lot more than in the old days.
Thats why I get so discussed with people , the very first comment on this tread gave you an example as to people are not paying more now but they are still complaining. Your right the school has nothing to do with this project and either does a empty lot being sold in South Hills. DUH.
Milroy

Harrisburg, PA

#19 Jun 4, 2009
Lewistown Resident wrote:
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Thats why I get so discussed with people , the very first comment on this tread gave you an example as to people are not paying more now but they are still complaining. Your right the school has nothing to do with this project and either does a empty lot being sold in South Hills. DUH.
You have a bad attitude. I read your post, and I'm not clear what point you were trying to make.

What I got out of it was that you are upset that a long time ago you had to pay a lot of money on your sewer compared to what people are paying today in Derry Township. This wouldn't bother most people, but you think there is a cabal out to get you.

I point out a real life example of real costs today of sewer taps in DERRY TOWNSHIP that destroys your credibility on this issue. You get defensive. No need to respond. Just try to learn from the experience.
Whatever

Erie, PA

#20 Jun 4, 2009
Lewistown Resident wrote:
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Then that means you are not in the area they are installing the new line . Who said everyone in the twp is suppose to get a letter ?
Obviously you read my post from yesterday because you had to write back in a insulting tone about not leaving my house. This is why I asked where the sewer system was going in because I did not hear anything about it coming to my area of Derry Township. You should worry more about facts than being a condescending prick all of the time.

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