need a change

Kenna, WV

#22 Sep 18, 2012
i too remember how great the band was back in the mid 80"s and early 90"s always had huge numbers,the band at that time without doubt was the pride of eastern greenbrier county however today they for sure have fallen to a low level,i understand the kids are working hard and trying there best but it is time to CHANGE BAND DIRECTORS!!! the current director should step down and give someone else a chance to improve the pride of eastern greenbrier county,the spartan marching band.return us to the days of glory.
old spartan

Buffalo, WV

#23 Sep 18, 2012
Are people trying to tell us that the band shows are more complex now than they used to be? I simply do not believe that. If the show is not yet completed and there are only two homes football games left, one of which is homecoming, the public will never see the entire performance. If the shows are too complex then why not cut down on the complexity and actually finish a show? I'm not sure how other bands are ready to go yet ours is not. I really think that the band students are being short changed. Whoever said that they should be held to a higher standard is right. The band directors' job isn't to be their buddy. It is to teach them to be better musicians.
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yo hot

Princeton, WV

#26 Sep 19, 2012
There has been a decline in participation with all high schools, not just Greenbrier East. The band maybe smaller than 20 years ago, but all bands are smaller. 20 yr ago, we had 6 junior high schools that fed into East and now we have one middle school, things are run differently. They don't allow football players to march with the band at half time. If you would just go to a competition and see how they perform and how proud they are, you would realize they are better than most, their shows are more complicated than any other band and their music, or at least parts of it is written by alumni.....So you have your opinion and I have mine......GEHS Band...you rock!!
BAND MOM

Princeton, WV

#27 Sep 19, 2012
GEHS BAND WILL BE HOSTING A TOB COMPETITION ON SEPT 29 AT GEHS FOOTBALL FIELD, PLEASE ATTEND AND YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF HOW GEHS BAND COMPARES TO OTHER HIGH SCHOOL BANDS. THESE KIDS WORK SO HARD AND GIVE UP ALL THEIR FREE TIME FOR BAND. AND I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT AS ADULT YOU STAND AND SAY THEY ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH.....INSTEAD OF CHEERING THEM ON....THAT SAYS SOMETHING FOR YOU AS A PERSON...
silver 2276

Princeton, WV

#28 Sep 19, 2012
time for a new band director,gotta revive the days of glory,when the spartan marching band was something to be proud of,but not anymore.
Sarah Bailey

United States

#29 Sep 19, 2012
Being a senior in the marching band at East, I think that it's important for the performers to feel that they are supported by the community. Not put down for what we can't yet achieve. Everyone has flaws and we are very evident that there is work to be done. That's why we practice three days a week and perform two days as well. I think that if someone is unsure or would like to share their opinion on what the band is doing wrong, or right, you should contact James Allder and discuss your concerns with him. Criticism will only make the students feel less confident about what they practice so hard for over the summer and throughout fall. Please, be kind.
another band mom

Buffalo, WV

#30 Oct 2, 2012
I have to say i am very disappointed in the people who have put down our band. I have 2 boys in there. They absolutely love band and they do a great job. These kids work very hard and from what i see they are great at it!!! Jim Alder is also a great leader. These kids look up to him and i have a lot of respect for how he treats these kids! I'm a proud band member mom. People should be ashamed for putting them down. We are not in the 80's anymore people.. Our band is great!! Keep up the hard work guys! You are appreciated!

Since: Sep 12

United States

#31 Oct 2, 2012
Community Member wrote:
I was not trying to hurt the band members. I simply do not understand how the band does not know the National Anthem or the school fight song and as one member has posted here the field show isn't even complete or at least it wasn't when the season started. As a parent aren't you concerned that your child spent a week at band camp, August practicing, one block each day and after school and still they don't know these things? It isn't just this year. It is every year in recent history. The students deserve better. If other schools can walk onto the field and play the National Anthem and then present a good half time show, I know our kids can too. It's not about putting your kids down. It's about figuring out how the kids in this community can put in so much time and yet something is missing. Is it leadership and the band director? Maybe.
I agree. Band members should be "practicing" at home. Students should not be wasting valuable REHERSAL time learning the music. During the my tour from 1979-1981 we used to learn and perform a DIFFERENT complete show EVERY WEEK. Spending the entire season perfecting one show sucks for the public who want to be entertained during the games.
former spartan

Point Pleasant, WV

#32 Oct 2, 2012
As a former member of the GEHS band and a BOA/TOB/ACC champion drumline. I too feel angst whenever I see the membership of the band dwindling down next to nothing. However, Jim Alder is an excellent band director, he has changed much since I played for him. He has become far more serious to the point that he isn't the same fun loving enthusiast he once was. As a senior I witnessed the talent level of the upcoming members wasn't the talent that my classmates had when we came over to east. I happen to believe that this is due to the program of eastern greenbrier once mr. fauber retired who was my band director in jr high. I observed the transition from mr fauber to mr osbourn, to mr carr and the only recurring factor was the discipline of the kids coming over...almost as if they had never been told what to do in their life. Nor had they appeared to have ever been expected to carry their own weight. The program's fault at east doesn't lie on Mr. Alder's shoulders...the fault lies at home with your spoiled rotten, ungrateful children and the lack of discipline they are being taught at home. Not all, but the majority of parents have raised a generation of self absorbed quitters that don't understand the concept of hard work and reaping the benefits of such. I remember being told not to yell when giving instruction because it "hurt feelings" of the underclassmen whenever i was only raising my voice so that the 12 member line could all hear me. As well as the brass section on a particular bit of drill (marching). What can these parents be expecting to teach their kids if they're raising them in a cushion to where elevated vocal levels hurt their feelings? I was raised to have thick skin which in this world, has done more good for my life than if my parents had shielded me from everything that may "hurt my feelings". Long story short: the middle school should expect and require more from their students, parents need to ween their children, and i believe you'll see an escalation of talented, hard working, and enthusiastic students in all fields of education be it extra-curricular, or not.
Class of 88

United States

#33 Oct 2, 2012
I remember those days when the band was at its best. I remember "nobody does it better" it gives me chills just thinking about it now. Thats when the EAST band was the s*#t!! Now not so much...
Elles wrote:
As a former band member during the Jeff Bryant years I have to say, the band was the biggest thing at that school during this time.
If anyone remembers the "Bond" show and Kevin Carr's trumpet solo then you know the band owned the field. The massive wall of sound when the band formed a line for the final "Nobody Does It Better" was amazing!! The was a huge amount of work put in and we were held to an extremely high standard.
No one is putting the kids down. We are not doing our children any favors by lowering expectations and assuring them that everything they do is great. I married a man from a smaller county and took him to a game to see what the best band in the state looks like when they take the field. It wasn't there anymore.
I love band and played from fifth grade to twelfth grade. Not reliving my "glory days" just an opinion.
1975 Spartan

Princeton, WV

#34 Feb 16, 2013
The choreographed routine to the "DAYS OF GLORY" was introduced by Cathy Collins of the GREATEST class alive, The SENIOR class of '75. Too young to remember??? that is when it was the bomb!!!
lost highway

Huntington, WV

#35 Feb 16, 2013
time for a change in band directors.
zebra

United States

#36 Feb 16, 2013
Time for a band director that will shape up the over weight kids and get us back on top!
1976-78 GEHS Majorette

Princeton, WV

#37 Feb 18, 2013
I too temember the "Days of Glory" when first brought to us by Cathy Collins. Those were the days of one of the Greatest Bands in WV. We were held up to much higher standards back then and so very proud to have been chosen to perform for our school. When try-outs were held, at least 10 to 15 possibly more were trying very hard to get a position as majorette or flag team. Competiton was hard and very competitative! You had to be very good to be chosen to perform and perform we did. At least 8-12 routines per season. Polished off to perfection, no excuses!! Hair had to be pulled up and all wore the same color leg make-up. We were prompt, precise and very structured. In 1976 we were chosen to march at Disney in the Bi-Centenial Parede....I have never felt as proud as I was that day when we marched for miles and represented our great state of WV. It felt great!! The first performance of "Days of Glory" was another good moment....it gave me chills as did the drum line when we were marching. Back then the first song we worked on in Jr. High was the "Star Spangled Banner" and to get your grade and keep a good grade we also had to be able to play each and every song the band played along with having the majorette routines down pat...You had to sit beside your band director and play all of the songs to be exempt at the end of the year too...Oh what Glory Days they were....Then my kids go to school, no direction on learning much music/songs/or instruments, starting out in grade school...not like in yrs. before. It is the same now..the children are not encouraged to learn music or interest in playing an instrument. So I do believe that the change needs to be made a lot earlier than Jr. High. How about more direction while in grade school? I also believe another band director should be put into the position and we will find out if it would help.
radar

Lewisburg, WV

#38 Feb 19, 2013
1976-78 GEHS Majorette wrote:
I too temember the "Days of Glory" when first brought to us by Cathy Collins. Those were the days of one of the Greatest Bands in WV. We were held up to much higher standards back then and so very proud to have been chosen to perform for our school. When try-outs were held, at least 10 to 15 possibly more were trying very hard to get a position as majorette or flag team. Competiton was hard and very competitative! You had to be very good to be chosen to perform and perform we did. At least 8-12 routines per season. Polished off to perfection, no excuses!! Hair had to be pulled up and all wore the same color leg make-up. We were prompt, precise and very structured. In 1976 we were chosen to march at Disney in the Bi-Centenial Parede....I have never felt as proud as I was that day when we marched for miles and represented our great state of WV. It felt great!! The first performance of "Days of Glory" was another good moment....it gave me chills as did the drum line when we were marching. Back then the first song we worked on in Jr. High was the "Star Spangled Banner" and to get your grade and keep a good grade we also had to be able to play each and every song the band played along with having the majorette routines down pat...You had to sit beside your band director and play all of the songs to be exempt at the end of the year too...Oh what Glory Days they were....Then my kids go to school, no direction on learning much music/songs/or instruments, starting out in grade school...not like in yrs. before. It is the same now..the children are not encouraged to learn music or interest in playing an instrument. So I do believe that the change needs to be made a lot earlier than Jr. High. How about more direction while in grade school? I also believe another band director should be put into the position and we will find out if it would help.
That wa then; this is now. Kids and bands are not what they were in '78. Your vision for the future lives only in your mind. Where in WV does it exist as you say it could be here? New band director! Ha. Allder can only do so much with what students who have the desire and commitment.
lokelyokel

Lerona, WV

#39 Feb 19, 2013
Zebra - when did it become the band directors responsibilit to take on the overweight kids and get them in shape? shouldn't that be a job for the parents from the time they are toddlers? Today, not all parents are "parents", they expect the teachers and schools to make something of their children once they are in school. I know some parents do the very best they can and then their children falter, but don't your remember "parents used to be responsible for giving their children a foundation to grow on".
1976 trumpet

Highland, MI

#40 Feb 24, 2013
I to was a member in 76. We memorized our music. We high step marched swinging our instruments. We ran and played onto the field for pre-game. When we played national anthem, you recognized the song. Our band lined up from goal line to goal line. We learned several shows each season. We were the proud spartan band. No school better. We worked hard and were proud. Today the band barely has enough players to be called a marching band. Our brass section was larger than todays whole band. Yes, something is wrong. Yes, it is a time for change. Find your pride, find your talent and get them in there playing music. They are out there, many, many of them. Stop traveling outof state and go back to basics. March in hometown parades, programs, where ever local you can and watch your band grow. Watch your funding grow. People want to hear their high school band perform at home, not thousands of miles away. Try it, I bet you will like it
Class of 96

United States

#41 Feb 28, 2013
Reading these threads make me think back.I remember band camp as a sophmore, getting initiated and literally busting our asses from sun-up to sun down working with instructors from some of the best drum and bugle corps in the country on getting our timing and music correct. Then that first home football game marching on the field to the sound of jungle love with tubas spinning in the air. And also going to those away games and fans from the opposing team coming just to see the GEHS band, traveling to Morgantown and Indianapolis for BOA regionals and receiving division 1 ratings at both then going to a small competition in Chapmanville and seeing nearly every high school band in the state crowding the sideline just to see us perform. Man how times have changed!
Spartan Pride

Portsmouth, VA

#42 Oct 10, 2014
The East Band has a proud tradition going back to the 1970s - one I was proud to be a member of for three years back in the Rus Bush years. Three straight away games at the start of the 1977 football season saw three straight standing ovations - and we learned at least 6 half time programs a season. Times have changed but not the tradition of excellence ---- good luck to those experiencing the pride and tradition of the Greenbrier East Spartan Band --- from the past to the present and to the future.
DedicatedPride

Oakvale, WV

#43 Oct 11, 2014
As an athlete while I was at East in 73-74-75, was a very rewarding experience. I do not believe we could have been more proud of our overall students participation in all programs. The BAND made it FULL. When they came on the FB field or marched in a local parade, or competed, ALL the people was impressed. It would be great to see the PRIDE as we had then, to be exhibited by students participating in a dedicated manner. East has grown so much since the 70's in numbers, but the PRIDE has decreased so much, along with the size of the band. Thanks to the members who are out there. There should be another 150 members. Good Luck Spartans.

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