Second Saturday Cruise-In

Second Saturday Cruise-In

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ann

Lewisburg, TN

#1 May 12, 2013
we went to the cruise-in on the square yesterday. Lots of people and venders. LOTS of kids on the bouncy houses. Looks like the LDA put a lot of work into this! Thank you...We need more stuff like this on the square to bring it back to life !
Nice try

Lawrenceburg, TN

#2 May 12, 2013
But what was the return in investment other than kids having a grand day? Did the parents spend oodles of money in the stores? If not then what was the purpose? Do we just want to have a circus on the square every weekend having fun? If so, you succeeded. If it was to attract business... bet it was a grand fail. Would love to see some statistics and reasoning behind it all.
May the truth be told

Lewisburg, TN

#4 May 12, 2013
Nice try wrote:
But what was the return in investment other than kids having a grand day? Did the parents spend oodles of money in the stores? If not then what was the purpose? Do we just want to have a circus on the square every weekend having fun? If so, you succeeded. If it was to attract business... bet it was a grand fail. Would love to see some statistics and reasoning behind it all.
Only a few spend money in Lewisburg or at these events. Most of those who spend money were not born here. For some reason very few locals want to see anyone succeed in this city. This is the most jealous, hateful city I know of and because of my line of business
I have lived in a few different places.

We need to advertise for the whole city. Why doesn't our chamber of commerce get more involved and advertise the businesses to people visiting and not just the gold or whatever they call the ones who pay extra to list? Is their objective for the square people to do better or the entire city?

Not to down local businesses but I don't think we can get a true sense by asking businesses.
I know business people and they will report they were slammed even if only 5 people visited. They do this to let others think they have the goods and they were so busy they must had great prices and you too need to join the buying frenzy. I seen it too often.

Attitude of the city needs to change and it needs to start from the top. All these civil war ceremonies will hold us back. We are known for those types and people don't want to deal with people that have bad attitudes about outsiders. May the truth be told.
James

Lewisburg, TN

#5 May 12, 2013
May the truth be told wrote:
<quoted text>
Only a few spend money in Lewisburg or at these events. Most of those who spend money were not born here. For some reason very few locals want to see anyone succeed in this city. This is the most jealous, hateful city I know of and because of my line of business
I have lived in a few different places.
We need to advertise for the whole city. Why doesn't our chamber of commerce get more involved and advertise the businesses to people visiting and not just the gold or whatever they call the ones who pay extra to list? Is their objective for the square people to do better or the entire city?
Not to down local businesses but I don't think we can get a true sense by asking businesses.
I know business people and they will report they were slammed even if only 5 people visited. They do this to let others think they have the goods and they were so busy they must had great prices and you too need to join the buying frenzy. I seen it too often.
Attitude of the city needs to change and it needs to start from the top. All these civil war ceremonies will hold us back. We are known for those types and people don't want to deal with people that have bad attitudes about outsiders. May the truth be told.
Will anyone ever listen? It is a town not a small square.
Jane

Lewisburg, TN

#6 May 12, 2013
It is a county! Not just 1 town. Why are we not metro? Two many people must protect their own interests.
Jane

Lewisburg, TN

#7 May 12, 2013
May the truth be told wrote:
<quoted text>
Only a few spend money in Lewisburg or at these events. Most of those who spend money were not born here. For some reason very few locals want to see anyone succeed in this city. This is the most jealous, hateful city I know of and because of my line of business
I have lived in a few different places.
We need to advertise for the whole city. Why doesn't our chamber of commerce get more involved and advertise the businesses to people visiting and not just the gold or whatever they call the ones who pay extra to list? Is their objective for the square people to do better or the entire city?
Not to down local businesses but I don't think we can get a true sense by asking businesses.
I know business people and they will report they were slammed even if only 5 people visited. They do this to let others think they have the goods and they were so busy they must had great prices and you too need to join the buying frenzy. I seen it too often.
Attitude of the city needs to change and it needs to start from the top. All these civil war ceremonies will hold us back. We are known for those types and people don't want to deal with people that have bad attitudes about outsiders. May the truth be told.
What do your new elected people have to say? Any answers?
More of the Same

Lewisburg, TN

#8 May 13, 2013
Jane wrote:
<quoted text>What do your new elected people have to say? Any answers?
I too would like to know the new mayors viewpoint on the entire post, now that all the promises were made and he was elected.
Are we going to see any change? I think the city thinks the square is the city. I know many will argue, but we certainly have a bad reputation in Lewisburg and the entire county and it was not generated by the folks who came here with 20 years.
Our bad rep comes from the hatred of people who are not from around here, by those from around here. It sickens me to know folks who hold this nasty attitude. Is the new mayor going to change that attitude? The whole yankee thing is about as stupid as stupid gets. People are going to wish they chose a person who was "not from around here" for 30 plus years.
I wonder, what honor is it to say you are from around here for 3 generations???? Most the smarter ones high tailed out of here and left behind the ones who most likely could not make it anywhere else or had no courage to try something other than vanilla ice cream.
They all depend on each other, hide behind certain names and that alone gives them protection and advantages in what little is left here.
For us as a city, I believe we put in the wrong person in charge and I will give you a clue, the bondsman was not the answer either. All I expect to see is more of the same which got us the reputation we for some reason hold in high esteem, along with the mess we are in.
I attended the car show and did not see the mayor. Being out among the people getting inputs is the best remedy to an ailing city, not taking directions from a chosen few which will be the case.
ann

Lewisburg, TN

#9 May 13, 2013
To "NICE TRY" : I did some checking and indeed several of the business owners made more money than what they usually do for a Saturday. There was one new business a Children's consignment shop that was their first day open and didn't quite have all her inventory out yet and even she did well. BUT, the object was to bring people together on the square, to have fun, to enjoy conversations with people , to meet new people and get people interested in the well being of THEIR town. SO, it was a success all the way around!
ann

Lewisburg, TN

#10 May 13, 2013
To "May the Truth be Told" : You are right in the sense that attitudes need to change at the top. My feeling is though that if these people keep coming to the square with/for events, and having fun and bring more people and ideas...and having more fun, the TOP isn't going to have a choice but to change their attitude(to a positive and helpful one).
lda

United States

#11 May 14, 2013
to ann
there are a couple of problems with the second saturday i am told. first the lda did not follow proper procedure to close off two sections of the square from the city council. they decided to let them do it this month dont know about next month. second there are two businesses that did not want the square to be closed off in front off there business. some vendors were selling products that compete with businesses on the square(food and jewelry) just to mention a few. if you checked all businesses as you said you would have known it. believe rock creek park would have been a better venue than closing off the square. they have everything that would been needed. no competion and will not have to close the square. people will still come downtown which is the purpose of the lda.
haha

Savannah, TN

#12 May 14, 2013
the last time there was an event on the square that made money it was called court.....or a hangn....peckerwoods love a good hangn.....
Nice try

Lawrenceburg, TN

#13 May 14, 2013
ann wrote:
To "NICE TRY" : I did some checking and indeed several of the business owners made more money than what they usually do for a Saturday. There was one new business a Children's consignment shop that was their first day open and didn't quite have all her inventory out yet and even she did well. BUT, the object was to bring people together on the square, to have fun, to enjoy conversations with people , to meet new people and get people interested in the well being of THEIR town. SO, it was a success all the way around!
Again, what was the return on investment? You say the goal is not to help the businesses on the square but to "bring people together on the square, to have fun, to enjoy conversations with people, to meet new people and get people interested in the well being of THEIR town".

Myself, I had no idea something was going on. I have to wonder who else didn't. Is it the only way to attract the locals to visit the square? Is the Square the only place to do that? And how is attracting those few once a month going to make them interested in the well being of THEIR town? Is that even a necessary need?

What are other cities doing? I know of several who have theaters that actually HAVE movies. That is an every week attraction. They have upscale attractions, not consignment shops and vendors peddling their wares like an open flea market. So, in the end, I still don't know what the goal is, getting people to visit a square that has no attractions or building up Lewisburg as a city worth driving to to shop? Hats off to those who are at least trying something, but for me, it's barely a step up from Belfast's May Day gathering they use to have. Kind of lame and self serving.

Has anyone gone to visit similar size cities and see what they are doing?
Been there

Lawrenceburg, TN

#14 May 14, 2013
More of the Same wrote:
<quoted text>
I too would like to know the new mayors viewpoint on the entire post, now that all the promises were made and he was elected.
Are we going to see any change? I think the city thinks the square is the city. I know many will argue, but we certainly have a bad reputation in Lewisburg and the entire county and it was not generated by the folks who came here with 20 years.
Our bad rep comes from the hatred of people who are not from around here, by those from around here. It sickens me to know folks who hold this nasty attitude. Is the new mayor going to change that attitude? The whole yankee thing is about as stupid as stupid gets. People are going to wish they chose a person who was "not from around here" for 30 plus years.
I wonder, what honor is it to say you are from around here for 3 generations???? Most the smarter ones high tailed out of here and left behind the ones who most likely could not make it anywhere else or had no courage to try something other than vanilla ice cream.
They all depend on each other, hide behind certain names and that alone gives them protection and advantages in what little is left here.
For us as a city, I believe we put in the wrong person in charge and I will give you a clue, the bondsman was not the answer either. All I expect to see is more of the same which got us the reputation we for some reason hold in high esteem, along with the mess we are in.
I attended the car show and did not see the mayor. Being out among the people getting inputs is the best remedy to an ailing city, not taking directions from a chosen few which will be the case.
I must have overlooked this post. I tend to agree with this thinking. When any new business succeeds, it succeeds because it recognizes it strong points, it's assets that will help it move forward. It closes it's eyes to soundbites, prejudices, and preconceived ideas. It looks to others that are succeeding and attempts to replicate that success. What ever becomes of this city or this county, it will hinge on those who are willing to expand outside their comfort zones and be willing to do it's own homework, not just relying on what someone wants you to pay for. Give me $100,000 and I will tell you anything you want to hear. You need to instead find those willing to give you 100,000 times more insight just because they want to help you.
location

Knoxville, TN

#15 May 14, 2013
The three most important things that can help a business become successful are location,location, and location. Ask an real estate agent. The square is no longer the location. Today it is the by pass. Sorry L. D. A.
ann

Lewisburg, TN

#16 May 14, 2013
lda wrote:
to ann
there are a couple of problems with the second saturday i am told. first the lda did not follow proper procedure to close off two sections of the square from the city council. they decided to let them do it this month dont know about next month. second there are two businesses that did not want the square to be closed off in front off there business. some vendors were selling products that compete with businesses on the square(food and jewelry) just to mention a few. if you checked all businesses as you said you would have known it. believe rock creek park would have been a better venue than closing off the square. they have everything that would been needed. no competion and will not have to close the square. people will still come downtown which is the purpose of the lda.
The LDA did what they have done for the last several years. They cleared it with the police dept., the fire dept., and the city manager. They have never before had to go thru the city council so they had no reason to think they needed to this time. If some other business was upset about the venders they need to say something though I can't imagine any of the venders competing with any business on the square. You might try reading THE WYOMING STUDY. You will find it on the Lewisburg City website. It will explain why the LDA is STARTING on the square.
Been there

Lawrenceburg, TN

#17 May 14, 2013
location wrote:
The three most important things that can help a business become successful are location,location, and location. Ask an real estate agent. The square is no longer the location. Today it is the by pass. Sorry L. D. A.
I won't totally disagree with this statement. We must look at the whole not just the clothes we are wearing. We must work at increasing our population to sustain any sort of growth or be satisfied to grow no larger. We must look at how to attract other businesses that are suffering in other states and figure out how to satisfy their needs other than giving away tax money. The Northeast is a prime example. Because of the school shootings, gun control activists are making it harder for gun makers to work their business. So what happened? States like Missouri made them welcomed and they agreed to move there. We must be willing to do the same. Look for what other companies are not happy with and give it to them here. That is just one example of many of what we can do.
Been there

Lawrenceburg, TN

#18 May 14, 2013
Another great aspect we should be looking at is large malls such as Cool Springs. Although this must be approached with caution because the mall business is also risky and is changing quickly. The point is, Marshall county is quickly becoming the center between Nashville/Brentwood and Huntsville. We could easily attract many that are going to Columbia/Franklin, Murfreesboro/Shelbyville and anything South. Now is the time to look at that.
Paul M

Lewisburg, TN

#19 May 14, 2013
Been there wrote:
<quoted text>
I won't totally disagree with this statement. We must look at the whole not just the clothes we are wearing. We must work at increasing our population to sustain any sort of growth or be satisfied to grow no larger. We must look at how to attract other businesses that are suffering in other states and figure out how to satisfy their needs other than giving away tax money. The Northeast is a prime example. Because of the school shootings, gun control activists are making it harder for gun makers to work their business. So what happened? States like Missouri made them welcomed and they agreed to move there. We must be willing to do the same. Look for what other companies are not happy with and give it to them here. That is just one example of many of what we can do.
Do we have 50 people who do not chain smoke, drink excessively, constantly chew or can pass a background check for firearms or a drug test? Do we have anyone who can be trusted to work, I mean work and appreciate their Boss from the North if that is where they are from and do so without an Union? Or will have the same from the past, where the bosses were tired of hearing the word Yankee, where the people showed up to work with hangovers if not drunk and hid behind lazy union reps?

We need a total makeover of people and an entire attitude change if we are going to be successful. We just need to act, can I say, Normal? Can everyone just get along and those who try to use their name to get favors be pushed to the side, leaving the message, we don't play that game anymore.

If anyone of Class comes into our community all the undesirable without business licenses or insurance attack them asking for odd jobs, while gathering information to spread gossip throughout the county. When they are sure they got every bit from you they shun you because you are not from around here. I know, it happened to us.

The above is true and all the people know it. Until we get support from all the mayors and department heads to change the attitude of the people from the Top Down, nothing will ever change. Have you ever heard an elected official ever identify and speak of the hatred of locals towards outsiders and how it needs to stop? Have you ever seen a real community effort for an outsider or their family as they do for Long Time Locals or people liked by the connected?

People here are still all pisssed over the Civil War and now the car companies that came and gone. Can they not take some of the blame for them up and leaving? I can help them remember what they did wrong to help the companies want to leave.(Laziness/unions/drunks/ drugs/yankee spewing/excessive breaks/bad attitudes/wanting more without giving more, etc, etc. etc.)

You have to ask yourself, is anything changing with those you elected and solely elected because you know their name? If not you have no one to thank but yourself. I know this is not good for people bringing in work but we need to change and it needs to be known what the problems are. If you think different and see no problems, Nothing Will Ever Change.
Business Owner

Chapel Hill, TN

#21 May 15, 2013
Paul M wrote:
<quoted text>
Do we have 50 people who do not chain smoke, drink excessively, constantly chew or can pass a background check for firearms or a drug test? Do we have anyone who can be trusted to work, I mean work and appreciate their Boss from the North if that is where they are from and do so without an Union? Or will have the same from the past, where the bosses were tired of hearing the word Yankee, where the people showed up to work with hangovers if not drunk and hid behind lazy union reps?
We need a total makeover of people and an entire attitude change if we are going to be successful. We just need to act, can I say, Normal? Can everyone just get along and those who try to use their name to get favors be pushed to the side, leaving the message, we don't play that game anymore.
If anyone of Class comes into our community all the undesirable without business licenses or insurance attack them asking for odd jobs, while gathering information to spread gossip throughout the county. When they are sure they got every bit from you they shun you because you are not from around here. I know, it happened to us.
The above is true and all the people know it. Until we get support from all the mayors and department heads to change the attitude of the people from the Top Down, nothing will ever change. Have you ever heard an elected official ever identify and speak of the hatred of locals towards outsiders and how it needs to stop? Have you ever seen a real community effort for an outsider or their family as they do for Long Time Locals or people liked by the connected?
People here are still all pisssed over the Civil War and now the car companies that came and gone. Can they not take some of the blame for them up and leaving? I can help them remember what they did wrong to help the companies want to leave.(Laziness/unions/drunks/ drugs/yankee spewing/excessive breaks/bad attitudes/wanting more without giving more, etc, etc. etc.)
You have to ask yourself, is anything changing with those you elected and solely elected because you know their name? If not you have no one to thank but yourself. I know this is not good for people bringing in work but we need to change and it needs to be known what the problems are. If you think different and see no problems, Nothing Will Ever Change.
Well written and well said. Now what are you doing to change it? I monitor Topix only to make sure I am not being raked over the coals personally or my business. I read a lot of backbiting, negativity and general complaining about Lewisburg.

How many of you are involved to make the necessary changes? As we all have heard, how you doing? I would complain but it wouldnt do any good. Yeah that's right.
Paul M

Lewisburg, TN

#22 May 15, 2013
Business Owner wrote:
<quoted text>
Well written and well said. Now what are you doing to change it? I monitor Topix only to make sure I am not being raked over the coals personally or my business. I read a lot of backbiting, negativity and general complaining about Lewisburg.
How many of you are involved to make the necessary changes? As we all have heard, how you doing? I would complain but it wouldnt do any good. Yeah that's right.
Everything starts within the family and is past down to their offspring. They will never understand unless they too are put in that position.

Being on the receiving end of it makes it hard to do anything. We depend on the folks on top to monitor actions but it really seems like they are the ones who subconsciously reinforce it and keep the hate alive because that is what the core of the local voters support.

It is a shame you have to check on topix to protect yourself. Are you from here? This city has so many haters and jealous folks it really makes it hard for anyone who is not from around here to make it.

What do I do? Two things. I personally denounce actions such as I spoke of when they happen. Secondly, the reason I spoke up was in hope people in certain positions read the post, hopefully do not take offense that I said it, but to take actions to ensure it doesn't happen and correct it when it does.

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