More than kissing cousins
Open eyes

Lawrenceburg, TN

#21 Mar 27, 2013
Love is Love I suppose wrote:
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Actually if you read those verses the word was soweth! Not sow or sew!
Just posted that in Leviticus for consideration, as far cousins, falling in love or marrying, I personaly don't see why not?
I know a couple "first cousins" who was married together all their life had 4 or 5 children and were wonderfuly in love!
Actually, it was written in Greek. The Greek word is speir&#333;, pronounced sp&#257;'-r&#333;. It means to sow, scatter, seed. The word soweth is merely the way old English was written in the time of King James. Why bother posting Lev. at all, if you do not really care? Why not just say that up front? You are very misleading and owe everyone an apology.
Open eyes

Lawrenceburg, TN

#22 Mar 27, 2013
Speiro
You Apology

Columbia, TN

#23 Mar 27, 2013
Open eyes wrote:
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Actually, it was written in Greek. The Greek word is speir&#333;, pronounced sp&#257;'-r&#333;. It means to sow, scatter, seed. The word soweth is merely the way old English was written in the time of King James. Why bother posting Lev. at all, if you do not really care? Why not just say that up front? You are very misleading and owe everyone an apology.
Could some say the same for your posts, why not post Lev.? Because some might want to read that chapter in the Bible that deals with similar subjects!
Care to the point of posting. letting others read, but care it don't effect me, what others do, does it effect you?
thumbs up

Lawrenceburg, TN

#24 Mar 28, 2013
Please put your Bibles away. We are governed by the Constitution, and a subset of Americans are bound by the Bible by their own choice. Not all Americans care about the Bible or want to live by its rules. If you can't give a scientific reason for changing the law regarding cousin marriage, then go back to your churches and leave the rest of the nation alone. My own position is that first cousins should be legally obligated to submit to genetic counseling prior to marriage. Second cousins and beyond should be allowed to marry hassle-free.
Open eyes

Lawrenceburg, TN

#25 Mar 28, 2013
thumbs up wrote:
Please put your Bibles away. We are governed by the Constitution, and a subset of Americans are bound by the Bible by their own choice. Not all Americans care about the Bible or want to live by its rules. If you can't give a scientific reason for changing the law regarding cousin marriage, then go back to your churches and leave the rest of the nation alone. My own position is that first cousins should be legally obligated to submit to genetic counseling prior to marriage. Second cousins and beyond should be allowed to marry hassle-free.
I totally agree with you, but the original post asked if "... it (was) morally wrong". To discuss morals, religion cannot just be discarded. But alas, I do fully agree in separation of church and state. Let those who believe in God make their own decisions for themselves. As a Christian I have no right to force my beliefs on anyone.
thumbs up

Lawrenceburg, TN

#26 Mar 28, 2013
Open eyes wrote:
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I totally agree with you, but the original post asked if "... it (was) morally wrong". To discuss morals, religion cannot just be discarded. But alas, I do fully agree in separation of church and state. Let those who believe in God make their own decisions for themselves. As a Christian I have no right to force my beliefs on anyone.
I believe that morals are not the exclusive domain of religion. It is possible to discuss morality without ever mentioning any religion, whether it is Christianity, Islam, etc. I know atheists who are very moral people.
Open eyes

Lawrenceburg, TN

#27 Mar 28, 2013
thumbs up wrote:
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I believe that morals are not the exclusive domain of religion. It is possible to discuss morality without ever mentioning any religion, whether it is Christianity, Islam, etc. I know atheists who are very moral people.
Yes, but it should not be excluded because it is as much of life for some as not. Everyone has morals to one extent or another, but when you define morals, it is a person's standards of behavior or beliefs concerning what is and is not acceptable for them to do, derived from a story, a piece of information, or an experience. Religion is one of those experiences that can define morals differently from atheist. Since the person did not express where these morals were coming from, all aspects were wide open.
thumbs up

Lawrenceburg, TN

#28 Mar 28, 2013
Open eyes wrote:
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Yes, but it should not be excluded because it is as much of life for some as not. Everyone has morals to one extent or another, but when you define morals, it is a person's standards of behavior or beliefs concerning what is and is not acceptable for them to do, derived from a story, a piece of information, or an experience. Religion is one of those experiences that can define morals differently from atheist. Since the person did not express where these morals were coming from, all aspects were wide open.
That pretty much validates taking any discussion off topic at any time. No wonder every conversation on this site ends up talking about any and everything EXCEPT the original topic of discussion. At best, what you have said proves that religion is nothing more than extraneous information when it comes to the topic at hand. People can spend all day posting about why they believe the way they do, but it has nothing to do with the original discussion. Where people derive their morals from is irrelevant. The fact that people from all walks of life are capable or morality is the only thing that matters as relates to the question posed by the first post, which was the question of the morality of cousins getting married. Anyone with morals is capable of answering that question without bringing the "why" behind their morals into it.
Open eyes

Lawrenceburg, TN

#29 Mar 28, 2013
thumbs up wrote:
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That pretty much validates taking any discussion off topic at any time. No wonder every conversation on this site ends up talking about any and everything EXCEPT the original topic of discussion. At best, what you have said proves that religion is nothing more than extraneous information when it comes to the topic at hand. People can spend all day posting about why they believe the way they do, but it has nothing to do with the original discussion. Where people derive their morals from is irrelevant. The fact that people from all walks of life are capable or morality is the only thing that matters as relates to the question posed by the first post, which was the question of the morality of cousins getting married. Anyone with morals is capable of answering that question without bringing the "why" behind their morals into it.
How did it get off topic? The discussion is the moral question of marrying a cousin. Yes, there will be side bars such as this, but it is still related to the original discussion. Now had someone come in and start whining about something unrelated, that's off topic. You were the one who wanted to trim the opinions to just the Constitution. The original poster made no such limit. By your definition of having a discussion, you feel everyone should only say yes or no without ever explaining their reasoning. If the person only wanted yes or no answers, they should have been more to the point and they weren't.
thumbs up

Lawrenceburg, TN

#30 Mar 28, 2013
Open eyes wrote:
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How did it get off topic? The discussion is the moral question of marrying a cousin. Yes, there will be side bars such as this, but it is still related to the original discussion. Now had someone come in and start whining about something unrelated, that's off topic. You were the one who wanted to trim the opinions to just the Constitution. The original poster made no such limit. By your definition of having a discussion, you feel everyone should only say yes or no without ever explaining their reasoning. If the person only wanted yes or no answers, they should have been more to the point and they weren't.
It was not my intent to trim opinions to the Constitution. My intent was to broaden opinions beyond Christianity. America is a big tent full of people from all walks of life and faiths, or even lack of faith. My point was that true morality tends to be similar among all of us regardless of where it comes from. Human beings know right from wrong without needing any religious book to tell them. When people start quoting scripture, they become preachy and no longer offer a true basis for why something is immoral. Simply because a book says "do it this way" is not good enough unless the target is God-fearing. Many people, when seeking an answer to a moral question, need an answer that gives a logical and compelling response. Breaking out the old family Bible just doesn't meet that need. I suppose it is useful for keeping the sheep in line.
Open eyes

Lawrenceburg, TN

#31 Mar 28, 2013
thumbs up wrote:
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It was not my intent to trim opinions to the Constitution. My intent was to broaden opinions beyond Christianity. America is a big tent full of people from all walks of life and faiths, or even lack of faith. My point was that true morality tends to be similar among all of us regardless of where it comes from. Human beings know right from wrong without needing any religious book to tell them. When people start quoting scripture, they become preachy and no longer offer a true basis for why something is immoral. Simply because a book says "do it this way" is not good enough unless the target is God-fearing. Many people, when seeking an answer to a moral question, need an answer that gives a logical and compelling response. Breaking out the old family Bible just doesn't meet that need. I suppose it is useful for keeping the sheep in line.
Again, I agree with most of what you say. I don't feel the bible needs to be jumped on or quoted in order to answer questions except to other Christians or if someone asks about it. My only comment about it came after someone mentioned ministers and I agreed with your post. I only added that the bible had no opinion on it. And then that other "Columbia" poster who often tosses "out of context" bible verses did exactly that. I won't let that happen. I am well versed with the book (no pun intended) in both the Greek and Hebrew.
lucy

Knoxville, TN

#32 Mar 30, 2013
Now I know where those funny looking kids in Walmarts come from! small heads and beady eyes with ears that stick out? Tennessee gene pool is whacked up folks! I know it is true I read it on the internet. lol
Wonder girl

Lawrenceburg, TN

#33 Mar 30, 2013
lucy wrote:
Now I know where those funny looking kids in Walmarts come from! small heads and beady eyes with ears that stick out? Tennessee gene pool is whacked up folks! I know it is true I read it on the internet. lol
Says, Lucy, the missing link between neanderthal and humans.
ok rt

Lewisburg, TN

#34 Apr 13, 2013
do we know this indiviual
where do they work
and are they divorsed from there current spouses
do they spend alot of time at clubs
how do we know the sex is great have they told us
have we asked theyre former partners does there back still hurt from holding all that weight
on there back so they could become 1 due to michelin disease
let us all know
wtf

Lawrenceburg, TN

#35 Apr 13, 2013
ok rt wrote:
do we know this indiviual
where do they work
and are they divorsed from there current spouses
do they spend alot of time at clubs
how do we know the sex is great have they told us
have we asked theyre former partners does there back still hurt from holding all that weight
on there back so they could become 1 due to michelin disease
let us all know
Get off drugs you moron!
kissingcousinsyu ck

Clinton, SC

#36 Apr 26, 2013
Why in the world would you even look at your FAMILY member as a sexual proposition or even a love proposition? They are family. 1st 2nd or 3rd cousins. Esp. 1st and 2nd cousin. Its disgusting nontheless. Your 1st cousins parent is your uncle/aunt. You got blood between you.

Just cause we live in the South doesn't mean we should make what is said true. There is too many single people out here that's not kin to you to settle for family. I mean, is the love so deep its,'i love you cousin Joe and I love you baby' it doesn't make any sense to me. To why people want to have sex with their kinfolks.

Morally wrong in the bible or not, its sick as hell! My opinion.
kissingcousinsyu ck

Clinton, SC

#37 Apr 26, 2013
Also, when I see my cousins, I don't even think damn he's hot. Or look at that body. I think THAT'S MY DAMN COUSIN! Sick, and this is in Lewisburg, no wonder its considered a ' Dump ass town'
My 2 Cents

Smyrna, TN

#38 Apr 26, 2013
Although it is legal in Tennessee and several other states, it is an old world tradition practiced by European royal families to keep from contaminating bloodlines. My prayers and sincere sympathies goes out to those children born out of this ignorance, most do not have long healthy lives.
Not too bright r u

Lawrenceburg, TN

#39 Apr 26, 2013
kissingcousinsyuck wrote:
Why in the world would you even look at your FAMILY member as a sexual proposition or even a love proposition? They are family. 1st 2nd or 3rd cousins. Esp. 1st and 2nd cousin. Its disgusting nontheless. Your 1st cousins parent is your uncle/aunt. You got blood between you.
Just cause we live in the South doesn't mean we should make what is said true. There is too many single people out here that's not kin to you to settle for family. I mean, is the love so deep its,'i love you cousin Joe and I love you baby' it doesn't make any sense to me. To why people want to have sex with their kinfolks.
Morally wrong in the bible or not, its sick as hell! My opinion.
Egads! You're not too bright are you? Even by bible standards what you say is not true. By medical standards what you say if full of bologna!(pronounced ba-lo-nee for you slow ones). Your 1st cousin's parent may be your uncle/aunt, but they are not your uncle/aunt which would be biblically wrong. So I don't know what standard you are using, but you obviously are not too bright. It's is only disgusting to YOU.
Not too bright r u

Lawrenceburg, TN

#40 Apr 26, 2013
kissingcousinsyuck wrote:
Also, when I see my cousins, I don't even think damn he's hot. Or look at that body. I think THAT'S MY DAMN COUSIN! Sick, and this is in Lewisburg, no wonder its considered a ' Dump ass town'
And I happen to have really hot cousin! Too bad she is married.

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