Drunkards

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#1 Apr 26, 2013
I'm a filthy heathen and I always see Christians drunk and acting a fool. Did many leave the church for Mama's Country?
troll country

Lewisburg, TN

#2 Apr 26, 2013
me smells a troll. dont feed the trolls.

Since: Jun 11

Lewisburg, TN

#3 Apr 26, 2013
problem solved.

proverbs chapter 31

4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:

5 Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.

6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.

7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.

Jesus a Drunkard?

The second reference to wine in connection with Jesus comes in the form of a false accusation from Pharisees,
recorded in Luke 7:33. Jesus maintains that the Pharisees wouldn't be satisfied regardless of what he did.
John the Baptist had evidently taken a vow of abstinence and they had accused him of having a demon. Jesus
evidently took no such vow, but ate and drank openly and freely, so they accused him of being a glutton
and a drunkard. If Jesus was a prohibitionist, the charge of being a drunkard would have been too ridiculous
for such astute twisters of the truth as the Pharisees to have advanced. Jesus evidently drank wine to the
extent that his enemies thought they could discredit him by spreading rumors that he was a drunkard.

The Lord's Supper

The third reference to wine in connection with Jesus is the sacrament he instituted during Passover, the
Lord's Supper, as recorded in Matthew 26:27, Mark 14:23, and Luke 22:17. In all three references, the
word wine is not mentioned. Instead it says, "He took the cup." Because the occasion was the Passover,
we know that the cup contained wine. If use of wine were truly sinful it is unlikely Jesus would have used
it as a foundational and ongoing ritual of the New Covenant.

The Example of Jesus: Conclusion

In summary, we have examined three references to wine in the life of Jesus. We discovered that the
ultimate role model for the Christian did not condemn the use of wine in celebration, that he evidently
drank wine as a regular part of meals, that he had little regard for the criticism of the legalistic
religious leaders of his day, and that he made wine a primary symbol in the New Covenant.

These verses from the life of Jesus reinforce the impression gleaned from the 247 references to alcohol
found throughout the Bible. There can be little question that the scriptural position on alcohol is an
emphasis on moderate use of alcohol. Considering the life and example of Jesus, it becomes even more
puzzling why so many conservative Christians came to treat a prohibitionist position as a scriptural
position.
Dont forget

Lewisburg, TN

#4 Apr 26, 2013
some jerk wrote:
problem solved.
proverbs chapter 31
4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:
5 Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.
6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.
7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.
Jesus a Drunkard?
The second reference to wine in connection with Jesus comes in the form of a false accusation from Pharisees,
recorded in Luke 7:33. Jesus maintains that the Pharisees wouldn't be satisfied regardless of what he did.
John the Baptist had evidently taken a vow of abstinence and they had accused him of having a demon. Jesus
evidently took no such vow, but ate and drank openly and freely, so they accused him of being a glutton
and a drunkard. If Jesus was a prohibitionist, the charge of being a drunkard would have been too ridiculous
for such astute twisters of the truth as the Pharisees to have advanced. Jesus evidently drank wine to the
extent that his enemies thought they could discredit him by spreading rumors that he was a drunkard.
The Lord's Supper
The third reference to wine in connection with Jesus is the sacrament he instituted during Passover, the
Lord's Supper, as recorded in Matthew 26:27, Mark 14:23, and Luke 22:17. In all three references, the
word wine is not mentioned. Instead it says, "He took the cup." Because the occasion was the Passover,
we know that the cup contained wine. If use of wine were truly sinful it is unlikely Jesus would have used
it as a foundational and ongoing ritual of the New Covenant.
The Example of Jesus: Conclusion
In summary, we have examined three references to wine in the life of Jesus. We discovered that the
ultimate role model for the Christian did not condemn the use of wine in celebration, that he evidently
drank wine as a regular part of meals, that he had little regard for the criticism of the legalistic
religious leaders of his day, and that he made wine a primary symbol in the New Covenant.
These verses from the life of Jesus reinforce the impression gleaned from the 247 references to alcohol
found throughout the Bible. There can be little question that the scriptural position on alcohol is an
emphasis on moderate use of alcohol. Considering the life and example of Jesus, it becomes even more
puzzling why so many conservative Christians came to treat a prohibitionist position as a scriptural
position.
These are great references! Even Paul recommended to Timothy: Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.
Blahhhh

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#5 Aug 24, 2013
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