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Neo

Lewisburg, TN

#61 Mar 27, 2014
in 24 hrs so far we have between 12-14 not nessicarys and totally unwanted to the hilarious park it in front of the VFW to the one and only person who goes by the name America the stupid who happens thinks that this thing is a great idea and prolly the best thing since sliced bread and claims he is a firefighter but sounds like a cop to me hellbent to put the mrap to the test no doubt and no I'm am not counting your deputy buddy from Columbia Tn's posts that just wouldnt be fair now would it?...Hey to be honest I am all about nessicary evils but ask your self is this really one of them ? and remember All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent :)
homeboy

Lewisburg, TN

#62 Mar 28, 2014
born and raised wrote:
Talk about what you know ! The mrap nor the humvees cost the city a dime so stop ur damn belly aching !
Lets get this correct, even though these two military vehicles were free from the army they are not truly free to the taxpayers. The hum v had to be painted, striped, lights put on it, and equipped like other police cars. These things were not free and cost the tax payers. Probably the same will have to be done to the MAR vehicle. For the clincher, I am sure to maintain these two military vehicles on a yearly basis is not cheap and just can't even guess what the insurance for these are each year. The liability has to be out the roof. Lastly, I don't think a normal D. L. will work for these military vehicles. I bet the drives have to be have special training first. All these things paid for by our tax dollars for these military vehicles for a town of only 10,000 people. Here is the question for all of us - Are we getting the proper amount of usage for these vehicles as opposed to what we are having to pay for them each year..Does anyone know of any major case where either one of these vehicles have really been necessary and used in the last two years for the hum v and 6 months for the other. I think without a doubt the MAR is a waste of tax payers time and money, not really sure about the hum v and how often it has been used against what its years costs are
homeboy

Lewisburg, TN

#63 Mar 28, 2014
America the stupid wrote:
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Go back and read if you want to know the civilian applications. Either you can't comprehend or you are not reading it all. That is your problem.
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Oh really? Bring it little boy.
And again, they CAN'T sell the armor vehicle. What part of that don't you get? But don't answer that since you have confined yourself to yes or no posts from here on out. LOLOLOL!
If they cannot sell it it needs to be parked by the VFW or scraped and parted out
Homeless woman In lburg

Lewisburg, TN

#64 Mar 28, 2014
America the stupid wrote:
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You are totally misinformed, both with your opinion of me as well as the subject matter at hand. There is only one former military vehicle, given to the city tax free. Don't even start to whine about the cost of upkeep, it is minuscule considering the overall budget and costs of running a city.
Have you ever had to serve a warrant? Ever faced the prospect of some cray cray taking a pot shot at you? If that vehicle is ever needed, I would feel seriously scared for the ones requesting it. I know what it is like to face drunks, and angry people at fire scenes and yes, also to have shots fired in my direction. Yes, I have put my life on the line many times for others. Yes, I have seen more than you would ever want to. I have dug burnt bodies out of buildings burned to the ground and put others in body bags at wrecks. I have watched people die right in front of my eyes feeling totally useless to help them. If I am a joke, you better hope if you ever need rescuing it's another joke like me.
let me ask you something do you know what it is like to be homeless without a GED with the police always runing up checking on all the girls at that halfway house that was mentioned earlier and even trying to hit on us one even with a ring on his finger ? I am with Neo you do not kno what I have been through you twisted sob perhaps if you were raped while you were on fire you could understand you have made a mockery out of Neo s post I think that maybe he can see things good in people but your sick mind digusts even me
Homeless woman In lburg

Lewisburg, TN

#65 Mar 28, 2014
Neo wrote:
in 24 hrs so far we have between 12-14 not nessicarys and totally unwanted to the hilarious park it in front of the VFW to the one and only person who goes by the name America the stupid who happens thinks that this thing is a great idea and prolly the best thing since sliced bread and claims he is a firefighter but sounds like a cop to me hellbent to put the mrap to the test no doubt and no I'm am not counting your deputy buddy from Columbia Tn's posts that just wouldnt be fair now would it?...Hey to be honest I am all about nessicary evils but ask your self is this really one of them ? and remember All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent :)
please keep at you are correct on everything that you have said I pray for you whoever you are
Neo

Lewisburg, TN

#66 Mar 28, 2014
Never Know wrote:
What if some crazy, police or city manager takes one of those army tanks or armored vehicle on a joy ride and distroys half the town just because it is availble?
Where are the police loved years ago, who would buy the children ice cream at the drug store, shake hands, wave, smile and walked the streets with the people? Never tried to be seen as over powering or imtimidating?
Because it is not years ago times have changed you said absolutely nothing that any descent human being wouldn't have said yet why do you have 3 nuts and 3 disagreements ? I think every cop in town took the day off yesterday to go run to a computer somewhere to try to make this blow up in my face and defend there necessity of there Armored vehicle for if enough people show up to a city council meeting with the info that I have shared and since the vote is still 13-15 to one persons opinion which is only America the stupid it would be gone If they had any brains at all they would have never released any information to the public that they had it in the 1st place
Neo

Lewisburg, TN

#67 Mar 28, 2014
Homeless woman In lburg wrote:
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please keep at you are correct on everything that you have said I pray for you whoever you are
God bless you
America the stupid

Columbia, TN

#68 Mar 28, 2014
Neo wrote:
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Will the real Judge Dread please shut up ...lmao
Hey Neophobia, don't you mean Judge DREDD? Judge DREAD was the first white recording artist to have a reggae hit in Jamaica. I think you mean Judge Dredd, the fictional comic strip character in the British science fiction anthology 2000 AD, who was an American law enforcement officer in a violent city of the future.

If you are going to attempt to belittle someone you should at least get your FACTS straight first. This is just another example of the difference between you and me. I deal with reality and facts while you struggle with fantasy and fiction in the deep recesses of your mind. Way to go Capt. Neophobia.
Give it to the VFW

Columbia, TN

#69 Mar 28, 2014
Park that Army Vehicle out in front of the VFW Club as a reminder of War!

Better yet have it placed on top of the VFW Club or National Guard Building so on one may steal it !
Give VFW War Vehicle

Columbia, TN

#70 Mar 28, 2014
Is it becoming an arms race in Small Towns America, where people think so called free or matching grants or surpluss Army Equipment save any tax payer's money?

It always costs the taxpayers where it be Federal or Local there is nothing Free about it!

Read this!

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/ameri...

Where is our loved police, and firemen who walked the streets, smiled shook hands and bought the children ice cream and candy?
Wanted nothing but to be seen as humble, kind servants of the people!
Never ever though they were hero's or any better than anyone else?
Neo

Lewisburg, TN

#71 Mar 28, 2014
Give it to the VFW wrote:
Park that Army Vehicle out in front of the VFW Club as a reminder of War!
Better yet have it placed on top of the VFW Club or National Guard Building so on one may steal it !
Agreed totally :)
born and raised

Calhoun, TN

#72 Mar 28, 2014
Once again yes they where FREE AND THE PAINTING WAS DONE FOR FREEEEE ! The equipment ie lights , sirens etc where surplus from old patrol units . The officers that will be operating these vehicles are prior service military and have had all the training needed to safely operate these machines and are capable of training others to do the same . So to recap for those of you that don't understand English to date these trucks haven't cost us a dime so find something else to bitch about !
Military Police What Next

Columbia, TN

#73 Mar 28, 2014
born and raised wrote:
Once again yes they where FREE AND THE PAINTING WAS DONE FOR FREEEEE ! The equipment ie lights , sirens etc where surplus from old patrol units . The officers that will be operating these vehicles are prior service military and have had all the training needed to safely operate these machines and are capable of training others to do the same . So to recap for those of you that don't understand English to date these trucks haven't cost us a dime so find something else to bitch about !
Was the paint free, was the man hours free, is the storage free, is the extra insurance free, is the tires free, is the unkeep free, is the gas and oil free.? What real use would something like that provide except for parades for the police to ride in when do most need to be directing trafic at those parades any way?

"Did you say prior service military" So now is Lewisburg going to hire returning military for local police? to train out local police how to drive military vehicles?

Ever heard of Post Stress War Sindrome or flash backs gee Whats next? Don't the military teach people to shot first, ask questions after is all Lewisburg needs is triger happy military police in its police department with high powered Military Equipment?
Military Police What Next

Columbia, TN

#74 Mar 28, 2014
born and raised wrote:
Once again yes they where FREE AND THE PAINTING WAS DONE FOR FREEEEE ! The equipment ie lights , sirens etc where surplus from old patrol units . The officers that will be operating these vehicles are prior service military and have had all the training needed to safely operate these machines and are capable of training others to do the same . So to recap for those of you that don't understand English to date these trucks haven't cost us a dime so find something else to bitch about !
Did you say Lewisburg has hired or is hiring for it's local Police people with prior service military? To training our local police how to drive miltary army surplus vehicles are they going to train the local police how to shoot military weapons and fly drone strikes against the local, shop lifter, dope smokers?

Don't the military train a lot different than local police get trained? Whats next army surplus Drones for the local police departments all over America taking their orders from who Obama?

America the stupid

Columbia, TN

#75 Mar 28, 2014
born and raised wrote:
Once again yes they where FREE AND THE PAINTING WAS DONE FOR FREEEEE ! The equipment ie lights , sirens etc where surplus from old patrol units . The officers that will be operating these vehicles are prior service military and have had all the training needed to safely operate these machines and are capable of training others to do the same . So to recap for those of you that don't understand English to date these trucks haven't cost us a dime so find something else to bitch about !
Well I certainly appreciate that someone else realizes most of the people on this topic are sadly misinformed. I don't have any first hand knowledge of these vehicles, but I was able to do a little research to find the same information you presented. It seems these people are more interested in deciding for themselves what is necessary for the police department, regardless of any official/professional information. Thank God they don't have a say so concerning those decisions.

Most of these people fall into the category of those who thought it was a great thing right after 9/11 happened, but have since been listening to those who feel the police forces of America are becoming too military. I do agree with some of that sentiment, but not in this case. We still have laws that even police forces have to follow and if the don't they will find themselves on the losing end of criminal court cases. And I bet you won't find any of these people getting personally involved in order to make changes. They just like complaining and trouncing anyone who disagrees with them.

For those taking count of yes and no, no matter how many misinformed, unknowledgeable people agree on something, it will never make it more right than one who knows the truth and the correct answer.
Neo

Lewisburg, TN

#76 Mar 28, 2014
America the stupid wrote:
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Well I certainly appreciate that someone else realizes most of the people on this topic are sadly misinformed. I don't have any first hand knowledge of these vehicles, but I was able to do a little research to find the same information you presented. It seems these people are more interested in deciding for themselves what is necessary for the police department, regardless of any official/professional information. Thank God they don't have a say so concerning those decisions.
Most of these people fall into the category of those who thought it was a great thing right after 9/11 happened, but have since been listening to those who feel the police forces of America are becoming too military. I do agree with some of that sentiment, but not in this case. We still have laws that even police forces have to follow and if the don't they will find themselves on the losing end of criminal court cases. And I bet you won't find any of these people getting personally involved in order to make changes. They just like complaining and trouncing anyone who disagrees with them.
For those taking count of yes and no, no matter how many misinformed, unknowledgeable people agree on something, it will never make it more right than one who knows the truth and the correct answer.
"I do agree with some of that sentiment" having a slight change of heart are we? misinformed on what exactly that we no longer can coexist!!
It still does not make it a necessity ..Do you not understand that the people of the world keep the peace and not police the police are for matters that come after the fact or after a line has been crossed not before but maybe we will need it someday I'm just glad that it was not a necessity today or any other for that matter

here are not all, but some of the rules police and other state agencies are required to go by which should be kept in mind and recognized in at least this particular matter

That all power is inherent in the people and all free governments are founded on their authority and instituted for their peace safety and happiness for the advancement of those ends they have at all times an unalienable and indefeasible right to alter reform or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper

I would think proper to destroy all war machines because they serve only serve one purpose ..which is war

I think this topic has now taken flight and can do with out any more of mine or America the stupid's comments But I am certain America the stupid will have his own opinion to share which will more than likely be right after I post this :)
Neo

Lewisburg, TN

#77 Mar 29, 2014
And now on to the next level ....

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/lewisburg-tn/...
Separation of Power

Columbia, TN

#78 Mar 29, 2014
Is America being distroyed from within by none thinking men?

Was the Army formed for fighting Wars, protecting this Nation from agression and to protect this County's Freedoms! Taking orders from the Presidents?

Was this County's National Guard formed for helping during major disastors such as stoms & floods, homeland security, defending this Nation at home, if while the Army was overseas fighting Wars, yet National Guard was trained with some war equipment, so if necessary to defend this nation at home! Taking orders from the Governers?

Were the police were formed and trained for to walk the streets of the Amerca, direct traffic and fight small time crime? Taking orders from City Managers?

All trained and equiped differently to be separated, Never meant to be one of the same?

But Had the Public Officials better give Returning American Heros time to adjust from a war zone, used as trained killers, back to civillian life living in a County of peace?

Even if Taxpayer's pay those Soldiers to not work, paid to travel with their families, or give them jobs that where stress does not matter?

We want them all to have good paying Jobs, but lets pay them all to have time to Adjust from a war zone!

Lets sure not make a war Zone out of small Town America by training local police to know how to become the local Army using higher power guns and army surpluss equipment!
i have the answer

Lewisburg, TN

#79 Mar 29, 2014
born and raised wrote:
Once again yes they where FREE AND THE PAINTING WAS DONE FOR FREEEEE ! The equipment ie lights , sirens etc where surplus from old patrol units . The officers that will be operating these vehicles are prior service military and have had all the training needed to safely operate these machines and are capable of training others to do the same . So to recap for those of you that don't understand English to date these trucks haven't cost us a dime so find something else to bitch about !
You sir do not know what you are talking about. Ask the city manager or any city councilman or anyone that deals with the daily operations of city government and they will tell you. The paint job and stripping was done in Columbia and was PAID for from the POLICE DEPARTMENTS BUDGET. Believe it came from the drug fund but not sure. The lights might have been surplus but the installation from the city garage was paid for from tax payers money. The radio, computer, and other internal equipment WAS NOT SURPLUS. If we have all this equipment just sitting around then their budget is too much and cuts need to be taken from that budget. I guess you are even saying that the yearly upkeep is completed free of charge. ARE YOU SERIOUS! No, it is done at the city garage and is paid for by the tax payers. Those things that can not be fixed at the city garage is bid out. Again ask anyone that deals with the city budget or operations. Now for the D.L.- it takes a special D,L. to drive one of these vehicles, must be trained and certified. A CDL does not work for these military vehicles. Was told at one time that only the chief had the certification to drive the hum v. Insurance = sky high for these two vehicles. Liability has to be out the roof but I guess you think that is free also. I guess there are people just lining up to maintain these vehicles for us for free. I believe your motives are good but are not realistic and have no real idea how these things are paid for. If anyone wants to know the truth - just call and ask the City Manage Randall Dunn. He will tell you the true cost of these vehicles and will cut through all the bs.
Legal Robbery

Columbia, TN

#80 Mar 29, 2014
Who wants to live in any small town that requires a swat team and high powered military guns for police equipped with military vehicles on it's city streets?

Why can't Lewisburg / Cornersville/ Chapel Hill, Petersburg be what they once were?
Mayberry Towns with Andy types for their police?
Local humble men as police, who walked the streets, smiled shook hands, bought the poor children candy, icecream and we all love them!

Should all Drug funds, Drug money, Court costs, fines speeding tickets and etc. should go back to the City/ County Budget directors to be accounted for by State Auditors not to any Police Department or Court System!

For does it seem have the Police and even the Courts Systems could any of those become Self serving, Money Hungry "legal robbers" for themselves?

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