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I see that

Columbia, TN

#6 Nov 29, 2013
That fits Mae. Some people are like slinky's... you want to push them down the stairs.
Truth

Columbia, TN

#9 Nov 29, 2013
I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?

-Jesus
ZZ Top

Franklin, TN

#11 Nov 29, 2013
Truth wrote:
I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?
-Jesus
Did his disciples believe in him?
Hmmmm

Columbia, TN

#13 Nov 29, 2013
ZZ Top wrote:
<quoted text>Did his disciples believe in him?
Of course they did.
Hmmmm

Columbia, TN

#14 Nov 29, 2013
Mae wrote:
When he turned water into wine, comes to my memory.
What is your point with this post, Mae? This is not a quote. So, I don't understand what you are pointing out.
ZZ Top

Franklin, TN

#15 Nov 29, 2013
Hmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course they did.
So why did they deny him?
Hmmmm

Columbia, TN

#16 Nov 29, 2013
ZZ Top wrote:
<quoted text>So why did they deny him?
Who denied him?
ZZ Top

Franklin, TN

#17 Nov 29, 2013
Hmmmm wrote:
<quoted text> Who denied him?
Which disciple stood up for Jesus when he was on trial and when he was crucified?
Hmmmm

Columbia, TN

#20 Nov 29, 2013
ZZ Top wrote:
<quoted text>Which disciple stood up for Jesus when he was on trial and when he was crucified?
When Jesus was arrested, no one was allowed in the Sanhedrin (Jewish court) but those who were allowed. His disciples were not allowed in. It was not a democratic society. The religious court of Jews then handed Jesus over to the Roman government, again not a democratic court. They did not even hold any sort of court where his disciples would be allowed in and it would have been for naught anyway because of the false charges. This was prophesied long before as well. What occurred and how Jesus was convicted and put a cross was written long before he was even born. This was all one long foretold event.
Hmmmm

Columbia, TN

#21 Nov 29, 2013
Mae wrote:
When Jesus turned the water into wine they believe in him.
Peter denied him. I would say John because he was at the cross. Judas betrayed him. What's the answer?
I see what you mean now about when his disciples put more faith into believing who he was.

Peter denied him, not because he did not believe, but because his faith did not overcome his nerves. He was scared out of his wits at the time. He did not deny Jesus as his being the Son of God, rather he showed his human side of fear. But Jesus knew that would happen and told him so, but he also told Peter that his faith would be restored and it was.
Plato

Knoxville, TN

#22 Nov 30, 2013
Hmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
When Jesus was arrested, no one was allowed in the Sanhedrin (Jewish court) but those who were allowed. His disciples were not allowed in. It was not a democratic society. The religious court of Jews then handed Jesus over to the Roman government, again not a democratic court. They did not even hold any sort of court where his disciples would be allowed in and it would have been for naught anyway because of the false charges. This was prophesied long before as well. What occurred and how Jesus was convicted and put a cross was written long before he was even born. This was all one long foretold event.
Kind of convenient, don't you think? Disciples say it was foretold that they would deny Jesus, then they do. Jesus is crucified, they walk away. Later, thousands die in the Arenas of Rome and are crucified for being Christians. Which ones are true believers?
Hmmmm

Columbia, TN

#23 Nov 30, 2013
Plato wrote:
<quoted text>Kind of convenient, don't you think? Disciples say it was foretold that they would deny Jesus, then they do. Jesus is crucified, they walk away. Later, thousands die in the Arenas of Rome and are crucified for being Christians. Which ones are true believers?
No, you take it totally out of context and make it up the way you see it. That serves only you. It was not the disciples who said it was foretold, it was the Prophets in the Old Testament. To say Peter took his cue from those words in order to fulfill them is ludicrous. Were those who asked Peter if he knew Jesus, or was a follower, also in on the ruse? There are too many people from all walks (Romans, Jews, Christ followers and more) to say they all acted in consortium in order to fool the world. And to what end? What did they get out of it? Did you ever act in consortium with thousands of other to do something for nothing? No motive, no reward? You cannot nitpick this and that in order to satisfy YOUR beliefs, and it will never dissuade others from theirs. So why not just leave well enough alone? You dont stand to gain anything by knocking what others believe.
Plato

Knoxville, TN

#24 Nov 30, 2013
Hmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you take it totally out of context and make it up the way you see it. That serves only you. It was not the disciples who said it was foretold, it was the Prophets in the Old Testament. To say Peter took his cue from those words in order to fulfill them is ludicrous. Were those who asked Peter if he knew Jesus, or was a follower, also in on the ruse? There are too many people from all walks (Romans, Jews, Christ followers and more) to say they all acted in consortium in order to fool the world. And to what end? What did they get out of it? Did you ever act in consortium with thousands of other to do something for nothing? No motive, no reward? You cannot nitpick this and that in order to satisfy YOUR beliefs, and it will never dissuade others from theirs. So why not just leave well enough alone? You dont stand to gain anything by knocking what others believe.
First, nothing I said was untrue but I am not going to debate it with you. Also, you should read what you say to Mae on here and then read your last sentence.
Hmmmm

Columbia, TN

#25 Nov 30, 2013
Plato wrote:
<quoted text>First, nothing I said was untrue but I am not going to debate it with you. Also, you should read what you say to Mae on here and then read your last sentence.
I am glad you won't debate because you are not very good at it. What I said to Mae pertains to OUR (hers and my) common discussion of Christianity. I was not knocking her 'because' of her belief as you do. I was explaining to her how her understanding in the same subject as my belief (Christianity) was off kilter. This is why you cannot debate, you take too much out of context.

Since: Sep 09

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#26 Nov 30, 2013
"There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why. I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?"
-- George Benard Shaw
Plato

Knoxville, TN

#27 Nov 30, 2013
Hmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
I am glad you won't debate because you are not very good at it. What I said to Mae pertains to OUR (hers and my) common discussion of Christianity. I was not knocking her 'because' of her belief as you do. I was explaining to her how her understanding in the same subject as my belief (Christianity) was off kilter. This is why you cannot debate, you take too much out of context.
Nothing I said was out of context and you know it. And you don't explain anything to Mae, you criticize and attack. Also, glad to know you have a patent on Christianity. Your BS is what turns people off to it to begin with.

Since: Sep 09

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#31 Nov 30, 2013
.....>grin<.....

Someone likes giving those little icons.

But here's two more.

Do not go where the path may lead, instead go where there is no path and leave a trail.
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Live the poetry that you cannot write, while others write the poetry that they dare not realize.
(There are two versions of this, I think this is a rewording of the original. But this is the coolest of the two.)

Since: Sep 09

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#32 Nov 30, 2013
If you're wanting religious-based quotes .....

"Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man's sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true. Power at its best is love implementing the demands of justice. Justice at its best is love correcting everything that stands against love."
-- Martin Luther King Jr.
Hmmmm

Columbia, TN

#33 Nov 30, 2013
Plato wrote:
<quoted text>Nothing I said was out of context and you know it. And you don't explain anything to Mae, you criticize and attack. Also, glad to know you have a patent on Christianity. Your BS is what turns people off to it to begin with.
So much for not wanting to debate. Out of context: without the surrounding words or circumstances and so not fully understandable. That is exactly describes your post.

Criticize: indicate the faults of (someone or something) in a disapproving way.

Anytime anyone says another is incorrect about something can be considered criticizing. So I guess you are guilty of the same. That also makes you a hypocrite.

Glad you recognize I am knowledgeable when it comes to my understanding of the Bible, but you don't call that a patent. A patent is a government authority or licence conferring a right or title for a set period, esp. the sole right to exclude others from making, using, or selling an invention.

I am not concerned with your opinion of what you think others think of me. It means nothing because you don't speak for them, you are just being pompous.(Pompous: affectedly and irritatingly grand, solemn, or self-important).
LOLOLOLOL

Columbia, TN

#34 Nov 30, 2013
Mae wrote:
It is okay to be yourself. We all learn at different levels of understanding.(A quote from a friend named Ron.)
but you forget too fast.

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