Should state mandate immunizations? N...

Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July

There are 9780 comments on the Chattanoogan.com story from May 4, 2011, titled Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July. In it, Chattanoogan.com reports that:

Immunizations are one of the most efficient and cost-effective ways to protect children against childhood diseases and Tennessee law requires documented immunizations.

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Armadillo

Maryville, TN

#8739 Oct 9, 2013
Hey wrote:
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Reality.
Hardly reality. More like tea party crap
Reality

Franklin, TN

#8740 Oct 10, 2013
Armadillo wrote:
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Hardly reality. More like tea party crap
Reality is that thousands of families had front row seats to witness a healthy, typically developing child become very ill after a vaccine, and with the illness see a loss of words, understanding, skills, functions, saw a regression that ultimately led to a diagnosis on the autism spectrum. In this day and age, these parents have hours of video footage and reams of photos to show the before and after. The parents testimony are eerily similar. You never hear of an illness that includes high pitched screaming, explosive diarrhea, head banging, high fever, etc, toward regression and decline into autism that occurs out of nowhere with no vaccine in the picture.

Science has not explained all of the Hannah Polings.

PS: If you get your flu shot at a drug store, be sure to save your receipt. Lisa Marks Smith learned that lesson the hard way.
Done my homework

Oak Ridge, TN

#8741 Oct 10, 2013
Armadillo wrote:
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Hardly reality. More like tea party crap
And still the argument has neither changed nor addressed the central question of whether government should mandate immunizations. Soon this question won't even be an issue as we'll be under the so called "Affordable" Health Care Act. Nancy Pelosi said it needed to be passed so we could see what was in it, so the House and Senate passed the bill {insanity of insanities}, and now our Healthcare is in the hands of those who bungled the "Cash for Clunkers" program.

TEA Party crap? Really? Have you read any of the cardinal acts of the past 15 years? Any of them? Even ONE???
Armadillo

Maryville, TN

#8742 Oct 10, 2013
Arguments that immunization is is a bad idea are based on bogus evidence sought out by those who have a political agenda and believe that children are property.

Your post has made that quite clear
Mom of 4

Troy, TN

#8744 Oct 12, 2013
nurse wrote:
As a pediatric nurse, I strongly recommend immunizations. I researched it because of having children myself, and I do not believe autism is related. I have worked with many children with autism and you can see autistic symptoms early on, but can not dignose until later. There has been no evidence its related. There is evidence however that immuinizations stop the spread of dangerous diseases, and if you think chicken pox is no big deal then you have never seen a baby die from complications. Again this is my personal belief and I believe if your child is going t be in a public place they should have to be updated on immunizations, children who are not should not expose children who may be to young to have shots. I have friends who have children with autism so I understand the fear, but I believe its not related. knowledge is power so know all the facts before you decide what is best for your family.
There are strong links to immunizations and Autism, mostly in males. You must've stopped your research too soon. I DO believe they should immunize those coming into the country, as they could be carrying diseases we don't have an immunity against. We all know the 'cocktails' in the shots have changed since we were children, but so have the number of cases of Autism. Look at the numbers, not what drug makers want you to believe.
Jennifer Lael

Troy, TN

#8745 Oct 12, 2013
NO! I don't think the state should mandate immunizations. For one thing, when we took the small pox vaccination when I was a child, it didn't come with all the warnings it does now.

The government, at a federal and at state level, are mandating way too much, as it is. Things should go back to the way it was decades ago. But I don't see that it makes any difference, really, they're modifying our foods to where it's no longer healthy, even the grain is now modified. All I've heard lately is how they want to decrease the population, first through modifying foods to cause more infertility. Well, has anyone else noticed that if women wait until they're in their late 20s or early 30s and beyond, they have more difficulty in becoming pregnant? It's not because they're 'too old' to get pregnant, all I had to do was walk by a man and I got pregnant. A little exaggeration there, but seriously, true, true. People are going to fertility clinics way more often than they did before. Etc. If anyone has their eyes open to reality, you already know this.

What better way to decrease population and put more people at the mercy of government dependence than through immunizations - forced vaccination?

Think about it.
Armadillo

Maryville, TN

#8746 Oct 13, 2013
Jennifer Lael wrote:
NO! I don't think the state should mandate immunizations. For one thing, when we took the small pox vaccination when I was a child, it didn't come with all the warnings it does now.
The government, at a federal and at state level, are mandating way too much, as it is. Things should go back to the way it was decades ago. But I don't see that it makes any difference, really, they're modifying our foods to where it's no longer healthy, even the grain is now modified. All I've heard lately is how they want to decrease the population, first through modifying foods to cause more infertility. Well, has anyone else noticed that if women wait until they're in their late 20s or early 30s and beyond, they have more difficulty in becoming pregnant? It's not because they're 'too old' to get pregnant, all I had to do was walk by a man and I got pregnant. A little exaggeration there, but seriously, true, true. People are going to fertility clinics way more often than they did before. Etc. If anyone has their eyes open to reality, you already know this.
What better way to decrease population and put more people at the mercy of government dependence than through immunizations - forced vaccination?
Think about it.
Yes, why not go beck to the fifities--life was so much better then--except if you are black, or female...
Done my homework

Oak Ridge, TN

#8747 Oct 13, 2013
Armadillo wrote:
Arguments that immunization is is a bad idea are based on bogus evidence sought out by those who have a political agenda and believe that children are property.
Your post has made that quite clear
Whether vaccinations are a good, or bad, idea is irrelevant. What is relevant is whether the state has the power to enforce compliance, as opposed to the right of the individual to refuse to comply. Hence my question about reading any of the legislation that has passed before the House or Senate in the past 10 to 15 years.

The power of the state must never exceed the right of the individual to say "No."
Done my homework

Oak Ridge, TN

#8748 Oct 13, 2013
Notice how the Left uses rhetoric to side-step the issue? "If you were black" "If you were female" "in the fifties" {spelling corrected, free of charge}.

Notice how they only focus on the corporate, and never the individual's rights? So obvious, and so vapid.
Armadillo

Maryville, TN

#8749 Oct 13, 2013
Done my homework wrote:
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Whether vaccinations are a good, or bad, idea is irrelevant. What is relevant is whether the state has the power to enforce compliance, as opposed to the right of the individual to refuse to comply. Hence my question about reading any of the legislation that has passed before the House or Senate in the past 10 to 15 years.
The power of the state must never exceed the right of the individual to say "No."
Your past posts, attempts to show that vaccinations are bad, certainly contradict this latest post. If indeed your are interested only in the sacred rights of the individual, why did you bring up that "evidence" in the first place?

Your last statement in this post is simply absurd as stated. I can say "no" to any law? Tell that to the judge.
Armadillo

Maryville, TN

#8750 Oct 13, 2013
Done my homework wrote:
Notice how the Left uses rhetoric to side-step the issue? "If you were black" "If you were female" "in the fifties" {spelling corrected, free of charge}.
Notice how they only focus on the corporate, and never the individual's rights? So obvious, and so vapid.
If you can read: do read John S Mill "On Liberty".

What "corporate" did i reference? Black's and women are individuals too.(FYI)
Armadillo

Maryville, TN

#8751 Oct 13, 2013
Pardon my apostrophe in my last,
Obvious

Westmoreland, TN

#8752 Oct 14, 2013
Yes in a time when kids have more medical problems than ever, we question vaccines? Hell yes we do, its about money folks, period. Any pharmaceutical makes millions if they can get a vaccine to be used, has nothing to do with if the vaccine actually works. When will you people wake up, Flu shot is actually giving you the flu, wow, nobody gets that. Its truly amazing how stupid people can be in a time when we are suppose to be so much smarter than before.
Cure for cancer???? There already is one, how much money would be lost if a cure for cancer actually came out, billions, even trillions would be lost, you really think they want to lose that income. Wonder why no presidents have ever had or let me be more explicit, died of cancer?????? Live to be old as dirt and they don't die of cancer, and we trust what vaccines they give us???? No I think not. The medical field is as dirty and the political world, thats why they are connected. Wake up people.
Armadillo

Maryville, TN

#8753 Oct 14, 2013
Obvious wrote:
Yes in a time when kids have more medical problems than ever, we question vaccines? Hell yes we do, its about money folks, period. Any pharmaceutical makes millions if they can get a vaccine to be used, has nothing to do with if the vaccine actually works. When will you people wake up, Flu shot is actually giving you the flu, wow, nobody gets that. Its truly amazing how stupid people can be in a time when we are suppose to be so much smarter than before.
Cure for cancer???? There already is one, how much money would be lost if a cure for cancer actually came out, billions, even trillions would be lost, you really think they want to lose that income. Wonder why no presidents have ever had or let me be more explicit, died of cancer?????? Live to be old as dirt and they don't die of cancer, and we trust what vaccines they give us???? No I think not. The medical field is as dirty and the political world, thats why they are connected. Wake up people.
Conspiracy theorist like you are never quite in touch with reality. Your claims are based on anecdotal evidence and wishful thinking
old man is mad

Fayetteville, TN

#8754 Oct 14, 2013
old mikey boy needs to be vaccinated against stupidity. That trailer park is infested with it.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#8755 Oct 14, 2013
Armadillo wrote:
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Conspiracy theorist like you are never quite in touch with reality. Your claims are based on anecdotal evidence and wishful thinking
You and your anecdotal evidence is getting really old.
Can y'all find something else?
Read some more Pharma jargon so you can say something different Y'all like science so why don't you talk to those scientists who came forward and ratted on Merck's limp Mumps vaccine fraud?
Armadillo

Maryville, TN

#8756 Oct 14, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
You and your anecdotal evidence is getting really old.
Can y'all find something else?
Read some more Pharma jargon so you can say something different Y'all like science so why don't you talk to those scientists who came forward and ratted on Merck's limp Mumps vaccine fraud?
Those who judged this post have done so rightly.

You are a silly silly person who has no understanding of science. You are not worth the time of day.

(Ad hominem)
Done my homework

Oak Ridge, TN

#8757 Oct 24, 2013
Armadillo wrote:
Arguments that immunization is is a bad idea are based on bogus evidence sought out by those who have a political agenda and believe that children are property.
Your post has made that quite clear
Some argue they are good, some argue they are bad, and that's fine, but that is not what this thread is about. No, that is the diversion used to derail the central question of authority over our bodies; do we have final authority, or does it reside with the government that passes laws to enforce the whims of a few?
Done my homework

Oak Ridge, TN

#8758 Oct 24, 2013
Armadillo wrote:
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Your past posts, attempts to show that vaccinations are bad, certainly contradict this latest post. If indeed your are interested only in the sacred rights of the individual, why did you bring up that "evidence" in the first place?
Your last statement in this post is simply absurd as stated. I can say "no" to any law? Tell that to the judge.
No, none of my posts have made any judgments evaluating whether vaccines are "good" or "bad", but have contained facts about certain ingredients used. My central point has been one of ownership, which you seek to obfuscate by attacking me and making false accusations.

As for the "corporate", are you truly unaware of the various definitions for the word, let alone the wide spectrum of usages?

Now, with this "Affordable" care act in place there is more reason to deal with the question of whether we are free individuals or not. If not then we're frankly nothing more than product/live stock. I guess that's a step up for an armadillo, isn't it?
Armadilllo

Maryville, TN

#8762 Oct 26, 2013
Done my homework wrote:
<quoted text>
No, none of my posts have made any judgments evaluating whether vaccines are "good" or "bad", but have contained facts about certain ingredients used. My central point has been one of ownership, which you seek to obfuscate by attacking me and making false accusations.
As for the "corporate", are you truly unaware of the various definitions for the word, let alone the wide spectrum of usages?
Now, with this "Affordable" care act in place there is more reason to deal with the question of whether we are free individuals or not. If not then we're frankly nothing more than product/live stock. I guess that's a step up for an armadillo, isn't it?
Apparently, you want to have it both ways? Why bring up the issue of ingredients if that is irrelevant.

As for freedom read Stuart Mill On Liberty. See especially the sections on tyranny.

To make it clear: if refusal to vaccinate your child exposes another child who for medical reasons cannot be given the vaccine, and the latter becomes ill, then, you have committed a morally questionable act.

Your comment about "corportate" is silly. You need to investigate the definition(s) and usages of the word. Or, are you simply being Humpty Dumpty.

Since you have brought up the issue of names, you have yet to have demonstrated that you have "Done 'my homework"

You need to do your homework

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