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redneck

Nashville, TN

#1 Dec 7, 2012
Man making 400 bucks a week paying 50 bucks a week for health insurance, that is whopping 12 and a half percent. man making 5000 bucks, for same coverage, which I might add isnt shit, if he even carries any, is 1 percent. Same for food, man making 400 spends 100 bucks for food, man making 5000 of course might eat better but just assumming spends 100 bucks, of course he might spend that on one meal, but I am just making comparison's. Man making 400 spends 25 percent for food, man making 5000 spends 2 percent. My point is man making 250000 year should pay more taxes percentage wise than making 20000, lots more.
Hmmmm

Lawrenceburg, TN

#2 Dec 7, 2012
redneck wrote:
Man making 400 bucks a week paying 50 bucks a week for health insurance, that is whopping 12 and a half percent. man making 5000 bucks, for same coverage, which I might add isnt shit, if he even carries any, is 1 percent. Same for food, man making 400 spends 100 bucks for food, man making 5000 of course might eat better but just assumming spends 100 bucks, of course he might spend that on one meal, but I am just making comparison's. Man making 400 spends 25 percent for food, man making 5000 spends 2 percent. My point is man making 250000 year should pay more taxes percentage wise than making 20000, lots more.
Hmmm... why are you making $400 and the other guy $5000? Could it be because he has more education and a better job? Could it be he has more responsibilities than you? So, what you are saying is, because he has done more to earn more, he should be penalized. Quit blaming others for your problems. Instead, work harder, and increase your education so you can earn more.
Amen

Augusta, MI

#3 Dec 7, 2012
I agree. Dont penalize someone for making more money.Even child support should be a set amount because a loaf of bread doesn't cost more just becaue I make more money. The way it is right now I have to pay alot more than someone making 20,000 because I make 175,000. I pay $1600.00 a month for one child. Can someone making $20,000 a year afford $1600.00 a month in child support.
Redneck

Lewisburg, TN

#4 Dec 7, 2012
redneck wrote:
Man making 400 bucks a week paying 50 bucks a week for health insurance, that is whopping 12 and a half percent. man making 5000 bucks, for same coverage, which I might add isnt shit, if he even carries any, is 1 percent. Same for food, man making 400 spends 100 bucks for food, man making 5000 of course might eat better but just assumming spends 100 bucks, of course he might spend that on one meal, but I am just making comparison's. Man making 400 spends 25 percent for food, man making 5000 spends 2 percent. My point is man making 250000 year should pay more taxes percentage wise than making 20000, lots more.
What is your point?

A man making $250000 per year pays a higher percentage of income taxes than someone making $20000 per year. They probably pay at least 25% of their gross pay in taxes, while someone making $20000 probably doesn't pay any income tax.
redneck

Hendersonville, TN

#5 Dec 8, 2012
Redneck wrote:
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What is your point?
A man making $250000 per year pays a higher percentage of income taxes than someone making $20000 per year. They probably pay at least 25% of their gross pay in taxes, while someone making $20000 probably doesn't pay any income tax.
because he has it to pay and the man making 20000 has nothing left after food and health care ins
redneck

Nashville, TN

#6 Dec 8, 2012
Hmmmm wrote:
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Hmmm... why are you making $400 and the other guy $5000? Could it be because he has more education and a better job? Could it be he has more responsibilities than you? So, what you are saying is, because he has done more to earn more, he should be penalized. Quit blaming others for your problems. Instead, work harder, and increase your education so you can earn more.
Could it be he got it from cheating and making it off o the little man? All of these overpaid sports figures, some cant even write their name, playing and having fun, Actors, ceo's bank crooks, wall street crooks lawyer crooks. They all making their money off of the little man. You could have 10 years worh of college dgrees and still not make 250000. your thought get an education and you can make 100000 flipping bugers at mcdonald's. Of course then we would pay 100 bucks for a burger. My point is the gap has widened too far and the ones making the big bucks, I might add mostly from the little man, has a hell of a lot left out of his paycheck. There is a lot of difference in 50 percent for insurance and taxes on 20000 and 250000.
redneck

Nashville, TN

#7 Dec 8, 2012
Redneck wrote:
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What is your point?
A man making $250000 per year pays a higher percentage of income taxes than someone making $20000 per year. They probably pay at least 25% of their gross pay in taxes, while someone making $20000 probably doesn't pay any income tax.
A man making 20000 pays a higher percentage for health insurance and food also
redneck

Nashville, TN

#8 Dec 8, 2012
Amen wrote:
I agree. Dont penalize someone for making more money.Even child support should be a set amount because a loaf of bread doesn't cost more just becaue I make more money. The way it is right now I have to pay alot more than someone making 20,000 because I make 175,000. I pay $1600.00 a month for one child. Can someone making $20,000 a year afford $1600.00 a month in child support.
I agree on the cild support. So here is the plan. Just saying. man making 20000 pays 10 percent for taxes 10 percent for food, 10 percent for health insurance and so does man making 250000. Sounds fair right? The big man probably would wrather pay 40 percent for taxes. I dont think he would want to pay 25000 a year for health insurance or 25000 for groceries. Now who is being penalized? man making 20000 already paying 12 and half percent for health insurance and 25 percent for groceries
Old timer

Lewisburg, TN

#9 Dec 8, 2012
I have never made anywhere close to the 250,000 that you mention, but I have never begrudged those who do.

I know that they worked harder, took chances with a new business, or were better educated.

That is how a capitalist society operates.. I know the liberal socialists don't like it, but they are too lazy to work or make the sacrifices to succeed in business.
redneck

Nashville, TN

#10 Dec 8, 2012
Old timer wrote:
I have never made anywhere close to the 250,000 that you mention, but I have never begrudged those who do.
I know that they worked harder, took chances with a new business, or were better educated.
That is how a capitalist society operates.. I know the liberal socialists don't like it, but they are too lazy to work or make the sacrifices to succeed in business.
Im not begrudging the ones that work hard and do it legally, Im just saying they should pay more taxe, simply because the way the system is. As I stated in another post, Maybe people dont think it is fair they might pay 35 or 40 percent in taxes, which I doubt anyway with all the loopholes, but do you think it is fair for the little man to pay 25 percent of his check for groceries and 12 and a half percent for health insurance, when they might pay 2 percent? Solve the problem we all pay 10 percent for taxes, 10 percent for food and 10percent for health insurance. Would that sound reasonable to you?
Amen

Augusta, MI

#11 Dec 8, 2012
At 1600 dollars a month my 8 year old can afford a new car a house and groceries and still have 100 dollars left over. So whats the problem here. He has no education he doesnt flip burgers heck he doesnt even take out the trash.
truth hurts

Lawrenceburg, TN

#12 Dec 8, 2012
redneck wrote:
Man making 400 bucks a week paying 50 bucks a week for health insurance, that is whopping 12 and a half percent. man making 5000 bucks, for same coverage, which I might add isnt shit, if he even carries any, is 1 percent. Same for food, man making 400 spends 100 bucks for food, man making 5000 of course might eat better but just assumming spends 100 bucks, of course he might spend that on one meal, but I am just making comparison's. Man making 400 spends 25 percent for food, man making 5000 spends 2 percent. My point is man making 250000 year should pay more taxes percentage wise than making 20000, lots more.
Why punish a man for making choices that led to more success? You seem to think the man making $5000/week owes you something. If you make $400/week, who is at fault? I would suggest that someone making $400/week has no one to blame but himself.

Even if the tax percentage was the same, the man making more still pays more. You not only want him to pay more dollar-wise, you want to double up on him with a higher percentage as well. How long have you been drinking the Communist koolaid?
Just here

Murfreesboro, TN

#13 Dec 8, 2012
Another thought, two men make the same amount of money, man#1 budgets' his income and does not include alcohol or tobacco, result, nicer home and a higher standard of living for his family. His property tax is higher!
Man#2 spends $60.00/wk on smokes and beer=$3120.00/ year, his family has a lower standard of living and he pays less taxes, if any, probably rents.
redneck

Nashville, TN

#14 Dec 8, 2012
truth hurts wrote:
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Why punish a man for making choices that led to more success? You seem to think the man making $5000/week owes you something. If you make $400/week, who is at fault? I would suggest that someone making $400/week has no one to blame but himself.
Even if the tax percentage was the same, the man making more still pays more. You not only want him to pay more dollar-wise, you want to double up on him with a higher percentage as well. How long have you been drinking the Communist koolaid?
Obviously you didn't read all the post or too dumb to get the point. I have been just using those figures for a comparison. By the way I do make a little over 400 a week and have couple of properties paid for and been drinking cool-aid, I spell it with a c, for 42 years. I have been trying to tell you people that a man making 250000 has lots more expendable cash left than a man making 20000. Hey not everyone is lucky or smart enough to make 5000 a week and what maybe 2 percent does. And most of them cheat or lie to do it. Hey that is only the 250000, what about the ones making millions ayear. If you make that kind of money you could pay 75 percent and still have plenty. Man making 20000 dont have many choices, time he pays same price for groceries, health insurance, heating and cooling gas etc as man making 250000 or millions. they have a choice to live in million dollar home or whatever. Nevermind Im tired of trying to explain why they will and should pay more in taxes, percentage or dollar. I paid more percentage wise than romney and most other 250000 or millionaires. So go ahead and take another toke
redneck

Nashville, TN

#15 Dec 8, 2012
Just here wrote:
Another thought, two men make the same amount of money, man#1 budgets' his income and does not include alcohol or tobacco, result, nicer home and a higher standard of living for his family. His property tax is higher!
Man#2 spends $60.00/wk on smokes and beer=$3120.00/ year, his family has a lower standard of living and he pays less taxes, if any, probably rents.
man number two helping probably more to give your kids a place to study, like school, beings alcohol and smokes are taxed heavily for your sake if you have kids.
redneck

Nashville, TN

#16 Dec 8, 2012
just another case in point for the wealthy, tax break for 15 years for hca in nashville and giving them 500 bucks for each new employee. Albeit it might bring more jobs, this is my point. All these people or companies making millions are getting off tax free. I pay property tax so should they. Even here in Lewisburg, Cosmolab, threatening to leave if they dont get help, Hidios get on down the road, but noo, more rich people getting over. And everybody wants to know why we dont have enough tax money to go around. Well is deals like this. If it worked we wouldn't be in the condition we are in, locally or nationally. Just making more people rich off of the poor
truth hurts

Lawrenceburg, TN

#17 Dec 8, 2012
redneck wrote:
<quoted text>Obviously you didn't read all the post or too dumb to get the point. I have been just using those figures for a comparison. By the way I do make a little over 400 a week and have couple of properties paid for and been drinking cool-aid, I spell it with a c, for 42 years. I have been trying to tell you people that a man making 250000 has lots more expendable cash left than a man making 20000. Hey not everyone is lucky or smart enough to make 5000 a week and what maybe 2 percent does. And most of them cheat or lie to do it. Hey that is only the 250000, what about the ones making millions ayear. If you make that kind of money you could pay 75 percent and still have plenty. Man making 20000 dont have many choices, time he pays same price for groceries, health insurance, heating and cooling gas etc as man making 250000 or millions. they have a choice to live in million dollar home or whatever. Nevermind Im tired of trying to explain why they will and should pay more in taxes, percentage or dollar. I paid more percentage wise than romney and most other 250000 or millionaires. So go ahead and take another toke
No, I am not the one who is toked up here. You keep referring to the man who makes a lot of money as "most likely" having lied or cheated to get it. If that is the case, we have courts of law to deal with that. The tax code is not supposed to be punitive, especially when the people being punished haven't even been convicted of any wrongdoing. Your bias and assumption of guilt when referring to the rich is very telling of the mentality you possess. Are you a 99%'er?
facepalm

Waxhaw, NC

#18 Dec 8, 2012
86% of all income taxes are paid by the top 25% of income earners. Who's really paying their "fair share". Don't listen to what Obama and the libs tells you because they want you eating out of their hands with obamacare and Obama phones.
redneck

Antioch, TN

#19 Dec 9, 2012
truth hurts wrote:
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No, I am not the one who is toked up here. You keep referring to the man who makes a lot of money as "most likely" having lied or cheated to get it. If that is the case, we have courts of law to deal with that. The tax code is not supposed to be punitive, especially when the people being punished haven't even been convicted of any wrongdoing. Your bias and assumption of guilt when referring to the rich is very telling of the mentality you possess. Are you a 99%'er?
lolol what a joker you are, Ive never said anything about the rich paying more taxes as a punishment, merely the gap has gotten too far apart, and they have more to pay than the little man. Even Buffett himself admits that.Look I work for a living like the majority, and consider myself middle class. Im not all about the handouts to the scums that dont want to work either, but even the middle class dont have much left out of a paycheck. Of course the 2 percenters have a higher standard of living but when you start comparing the necessities to live on the lower and middle are way behind. I also gurantee you the majority of the billionaires either cheated someone or had it handed down to them from someone that did cheat. Take the waltons, they are bunch of people that have gotten rich off of the little man. Enouth said and by the way Ive only drawn unemployment for 9 months in my life and that was years ago
truth hurts

Lawrenceburg, TN

#20 Dec 9, 2012
redneck wrote:
<quoted text> lolol what a joker you are, Ive never said anything about the rich paying more taxes as a punishment, merely the gap has gotten too far apart, and they have more to pay than the little man. Even Buffett himself admits that.Look I work for a living like the majority, and consider myself middle class. Im not all about the handouts to the scums that dont want to work either, but even the middle class dont have much left out of a paycheck. Of course the 2 percenters have a higher standard of living but when you start comparing the necessities to live on the lower and middle are way behind. I also gurantee you the majority of the billionaires either cheated someone or had it handed down to them from someone that did cheat. Take the waltons, they are bunch of people that have gotten rich off of the little man. Enouth said and by the way Ive only drawn unemployment for 9 months in my life and that was years ago
There you go again, assuming that the rich cheated someone. How exactly did the Waltons cheat anyone? Did they force people into their stores? Did they force people to work there?

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