Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#76129 Apr 12, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
The Founding Fathers began drafting the Declaration and the Constitution in a, gasp, tavern. Does that mean they were drunks?
American Muslims pay taxes. Should they then be allowed to hold their religious services in federal buildings? I'm betting if they proposed this, the righties would suddenly reinterpret the 1st Amendment to prevent this.
Some on the right are quite concerned with what the founders thought about religion when the penned the text about freedom of religion, since they believe document is frozen in a time, over 200 years ago... but ask them if semi-automatic weapons and 30 round clips were contemplated when the founders penned the second amendment and you get a resounding YES !! Priceless !
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#76130 Apr 12, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> Well, I am not going to disagree with any of that, with ONE exception. I am not willing to cede my vote for the lesser of two evils to some who would vote for the person I see as the greater of two evils. If I stay home in protest, I do NOTHING to change the trajectory of policy, and I will never do that. There is no "perfect" candidate who agrees with me on all issues and there never will be.
It is not a matter of them agreeing on all issues.They have one issue and it's themselves and giving to the bribers what they want which in turn gives them what they want.Power and a good job down the road.
That insider trading is real sweet, and they gave that right to themselves.Isn't that sweet?
How can you continue to vote without taking a barf bag to the voting booth?

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#76131 Apr 12, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
The Founding Fathers began drafting the Declaration and the Constitution in a, gasp, tavern. Does that mean they were drunks?
American Muslims pay taxes. Should they then be allowed to hold their religious services in federal buildings? I'm betting if they proposed this, the righties would suddenly reinterpret the 1st Amendment to prevent this.
Absolutely correct..the "righties" would, but not through re-interpretation, through the power of "rights" granted unto "citizenship"! What a novel idea!

While jefferson was President of the United States, America fought the islamic terrotrist for over a decade, costing sixteen percent of America's economy.

America's "righties" DO oppose allowing the islamists worshipping their false/pagan god in any federal building because we righties" don't want American women murdered when they wear make-up, blue jeans, lip-stick, or one day profess the true God of creation!

The acclaimed "god" of these misled fanatics was a medieval war-lord who died approximately five hundred years after Jesus Christ was crucified, and after his murderous followers redacted the Old Testiment in what is known by scholars as the most profound act of plagiarism in history.

Yes, the rock-dwellers were too stupid to create an attractive narrative on their own so they plagiarized the Old Testament, contorting the story-line into an absurd mess, obvious to anyone with student reading ability and common sense. They would have considered you one of their very own.

I don't fully understand what drives your hatred for America, but I will contribute to an earnest effort to secure necessary financing for your timely departure!
Honestly

Beechgrove, TN

#76132 Apr 12, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> So by extension, we all should have followed your lead and sat at home instead of voting. That would have put Mitt in the White House and SOMEHOW this would solve all of our problems right ? That would have magically "come up with a solution" ! Yep that's the ticket.
Yes, it would have. Better than handouts and a socialist gov. Right now, there would be jobs galore, But then dem.lib people don't want that.
Honestly

Beechgrove, TN

#76133 Apr 12, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text>There are between 45 and 50 MILLION uninsured Americans in this country right now. Many of those people are the sickest individuals who EVENTUALLY (after they have declared bankruptcy and divested themselves of most of their life's posessions) end up being covered by Medicaid which is government (taxpayer) funded healthcare. How many of these "optional hospitals" would we need to service those millions of uninsured Americans AND the group that are Medicaid eligable ? What would be the cost to the treasury ?
While you might, I do not find 50 million of our fellow citizens who have no health insurance to be a "half-ounce sized problem". The same argument you are making was made over Medicare a few decades ago. I don't know a single senior citizen who wants to do away with Medicare, and I suspect you don't either.
And the 50 million (use to be 30 million when the dem/libs were trying to pass obamacare.funny how it grows.) But by the time obamacare is fully implemented, about 60million will not have healthcare nor a job. Then us taxpayers can keep them up. OK,,, what happens when they run out of my money, they still have all the ones that don't work. Maybe they can put them to work.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#76134 Apr 12, 2013
Honestly wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, it would have. Better than handouts and a socialist gov. Right now, there would be jobs galore, But then dem.lib people don't want that.
Obviously a majority of American voters disagreed with that contention.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#76135 Apr 12, 2013
ORIGINAL WILLARD wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely correct..the "righties" would, but not through re-interpretation, through the power of "rights" granted unto "citizenship"! What a novel idea!
While jefferson was President of the United States, America fought the islamic terrotrist for over a decade, costing sixteen percent of America's economy.
America's "righties" DO oppose allowing the islamists worshipping their false/pagan god in any federal building because we righties" don't want American women murdered when they wear make-up, blue jeans, lip-stick, or one day profess the true God of creation!
The acclaimed "god" of these misled fanatics was a medieval war-lord who died approximately five hundred years after Jesus Christ was crucified, and after his murderous frs redacted the Old Testiment in what is known by scholars as the most profound act of plagiarism in history.
Yes, the rock-dwellers were too stupid to create an attractive narrative on their own so they plagiarized the Old Testament, contorting the story-line into an absurd mess, obvious to anyone with student reading ability and common sense. They would have considered you one of their very own.
I don't fully understand what drives your hatred for America, but I will contribute to an earnest effort to secure necessary financing for your timely departure!
In the world according to "Willard", the concept of freedom of religion only guarantees the freedom of his religion. Freedom for all other religious beliefs are not guaranteed to Americans. After all God is on his side.....
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#76136 Apr 12, 2013
Nuh_ wrote:
This is infuriating. There is a business that wants to open in Chattanooga providing jobs - and...A lobbyist for Ole Smoky Moonshine, a distillery in Gatlinburg, could have caused the delay of HB 102, which would allow leaders of Chattanooga Whiskey Company to make their product in Hamilton County.
http://www.nooga.com/160989/lobbyist-for-gatl...
Ya know, Nuh_, we were posting about this issue about a month ago, and I thought that since the Commissioners of Hamilton County approved the manufacture of liquor in Hamilton County it was a done deal.
But now you have this new coalition "Let Hamilton Distill", which wants an election, "to permit the manufacture of intoxicating liquors and other intoxicating drinks within the boundries of Hamilton County, Tennessee.
If it does go to the voter all they will see is, "MANUFACTURE OF INTOXICATING LIQUORS IN HAMILTON COUNTY".
Now when any good old Christian Conservative has a choice to vote on this......they will vote it down, no matter how many jobs in Hamilton county will be lost.......and Chattanooga Whisky will still be sold in Chattanooga but made elsewhere.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#76137 Apr 12, 2013
Honestly wrote:
<quoted text>
And the 50 million (use to be 30 million when the dem/libs were trying to pass obamacare.funny how it grows.) But by the time obamacare is fully implemented, about 60million will not have healthcare nor a job. Then us taxpayers can keep them up. OK,,, what happens when they run out of my money, they still have all the ones that don't work. Maybe they can put them to work.
I guess you didn't notice that there has been an increase in unemployed Americans since the beginning of the great recession, and the last time I checked, unemployment benefits do not include health insurance coverage. Not to mention the FACT that companies have been cutting back on health insurance coverage for employees for years.
The fact that there is less and less employer based health insurance coverage for employees, might be the reason why Romney instituted a program in Mass. that looked remarkably like Obamacare.
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#76138 Apr 12, 2013
ORIGINAL WILLARD wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely correct..the "righties" would, but not through re-interpretation, through the power of "rights" granted unto "citizenship"! What a novel idea!
While jefferson was President of the United States, America fought the islamic terrotrist for over a decade, costing sixteen percent of America's economy.
America's "righties" DO oppose allowing the islamists worshipping their false/pagan god in any federal building because we righties" don't want American women murdered when they wear make-up, blue jeans, lip-stick, or one day profess the true God of creation!
The acclaimed "god" of these misled fanatics was a medieval war-lord who died approximately five hundred years after Jesus Christ was crucified, and after his murderous followers redacted the Old Testiment in what is known by scholars as the most profound act of plagiarism in history.
Yes, the rock-dwellers were too stupid to create an attractive narrative on their own so they plagiarized the Old Testament, contorting the story-line into an absurd mess, obvious to anyone with student reading ability and common sense. They would have considered you one of their very own.
I don't fully understand what drives your hatred for America, but I will contribute to an earnest effort to secure necessary financing for your timely departure!
Oh geeze, here we go again with Willard spewing out his venomous demonic hatred.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#76139 Apr 12, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> Obviously a majority of American voters disagreed with that contention.
I think there was a lot of voter fraud as with Bush.My friends in Pa.said there were places in Pa.where Romney didn't even get ONE vote.
Does one really think that's possible?
Oh PLEASE.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#76140 Apr 12, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not a matter of them agreeing on all issues.They have one issue and it's themselves and giving to the bribers what they want which in turn gives them what they want.Power and a good job down the road.
That insider trading is real sweet, and they gave that right to themselves.Isn't that sweet?
How can you continue to vote without taking a barf bag to the voting booth?
I worked for years to get a hospital for the county that I live in, after the one we had closed. Throughout that process I learned a lot about the healthcare system in our country. That led me to the conclusion that the best system for average Americans was Medicare for all. That is what I wanted when Obama began the healthcare debate wich ended up with a Republican Heritage Foundation product with a "free market" approach which kept for profit insurance companies in the mix. I didn't like the outcome, ESPECIALLY once Obama took the public option off the table. Still, Obamacare does provide a modicum of security for the uninsured in this country, as well as addressing the uncompensated care that helped to close our old hospital. I suppose I could have acted like a spoiled child and kicked and screamed that I didn't get my way....but Mitt offered NOTHING as Obama offered something. I will opt for some imperfect thing over nothing everytime. You can sit on your hands on election day, that is your right. I will continue to excercise my right and influence to promote the policies I believe in, in the belief that half a loaf is better than none.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#76141 Apr 12, 2013
This voting thing is like a bad marriage.You want it to work out and you believe with all your heart if you just keep trying you may get a few more crumbs thrown your way.
She's cheated but maybe if you really work hard at it everything will work out.AND she promised to not do it again and she loves you, she said so.
yada,yada,yada.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#76142 Apr 12, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
I think there was a lot of voter fraud as with Bush.My friends in Pa.said there were places in Pa.where Romney didn't even get ONE vote.
Does one really think that's possible?
Oh PLEASE.
Maybe those districts were composed only of people from the 47%. Or pehaps the Romney folks stayed home in protest like you did. Chuckles !
Do you see a conspiracy under every rock and around every corner ?
Harry

Singapore

#76143 Apr 12, 2013
Hey wrote:
This voting thing is like a bad marriage.You want it to work out and you believe with all your heart if you just keep trying you may get a few more crumbs thrown your way.
She's cheated but maybe if you really work hard at it everything will work out.AND she promised to not do it again and she loves you, she said so.
yada,yada,yada.
she cheated on you and your not going to throw her butt out?

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#76144 Apr 12, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> In the world according to "Willard", the concept of freedom of religion only guarantees the freedom of his religion. Freedom for all other religious beliefs are not guaranteed to Americans. After all God is on his side.....
This is God's world, I just live in it! Sometimes it's more of a challenge than others, I'm just thankful I'm not related to you in a any consanguineous way. It would be the first time I ever considered hurting myself!:-)

Actually, your headliner assertion here is a lie! I believe freedom, religious or otherwise should be a national gaurantee as it was in the 1st constitutional ammendment.(for all)

I believe the separation clause was adequate, but no decree devised of man will ever withstand the onsloght suffered by this simple, self-explanitory statement! At least, not in the absence of national unity and due regard for the perils of citizen apathy, pacifism and enormous laziness.

When you realize how a straight forward and simple decree has been utterly bastardized to the point that it can actually be represented to mean the opposite from that which was, it's easy to understand why our nation will not stand much longer.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#76145 Apr 12, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> I worked for years to get a hospital for the county that I live in, after the one we had closed. Throughout that process I learned a lot about the healthcare system in our country. That led me to the conclusion that the best system for average Americans was Medicare for all. That is what I wanted when Obama began the healthcare debate wich ended up with a Republican Heritage Foundation product with a "free market" approach which kept for profit insurance companies in the mix. I didn't like the outcome, ESPECIALLY once Obama took the public option off the table. Still, Obamacare does provide a modicum of security for the uninsured in this country, as well as addressing the uncompensated care that helped to close our old hospital. I suppose I could have acted like a spoiled child and kicked and screamed that I didn't get my way....but Mitt offered NOTHING as Obama offered something. I will opt for some imperfect thing over nothing everytime. You can sit on your hands on election day, that is your right. I will continue to excercise my right and influence to promote the policies I believe in, in the belief that half a loaf is better than none.
My mom was diagnosed with lung cancer.I hit every library,book store,etc,etc.to find answers.And what I found was a big friggen scam.I was suppose to go into the hospital for kidney issues, at the time I was starting out, and had no insurance so I hit The library,etc,etc.I tried the natural way out and here I am good to go.
So I say we don't need to spend all that money when there is a better way to get the job done in a way that doesn't kill you in the process and cost you an arm and a leg.
I would prefer a cure then a treatment for the rest of my life, but tell your doctor if your tendons rupture on your wonder drugs.
Your want ruptured tendons and heart attacts from your meds go for it but I don't want it and I do not want to pay for what I do not want.
While I pay for my stuff out of my pocket, while our wonder folks in Dc keep trying to take these things I chose off the market cause the Big Boys prefer not to have someone cutting in on their profits.
Cures would put them out of business wouldn't it.

Since: Feb 13

Guild

#76146 Apr 12, 2013
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Ya know, Nuh_, we were posting about this issue about a month ago, and I thought that since the Commissioners of Hamilton County approved the manufacture of liquor in Hamilton County it was a done deal.
But now you have this new coalition "Let Hamilton Distill", which wants an election, "to permit the manufacture of intoxicating liquors and other intoxicating drinks within the boundries of Hamilton County, Tennessee.
If it does go to the voter all they will see is, "MANUFACTURE OF INTOXICATING LIQUORS IN HAMILTON COUNTY".
Now when any good old Christian Conservative has a choice to vote on this......they will vote it down, no matter how many jobs in Hamilton county will be lost.......and Chattanooga Whisky will still be sold in Chattanooga but made elsewhere.
That is quite possible - however, I personally think it will be voted in should it be put on a referendum. Back when the <gasp> TN lottery was put up for vote I thought - much along your line of thinking in this case - that it would go down but it passed.

Hopefully Chattanooga Whiskey will be made in...Chattanooga soon! Heck, I don't even drink whiskey - but I don't disparage those who may want some from time to time...for medicinal reasons of course. LOL
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#76147 Apr 12, 2013
ORIGINAL WILLARD wrote:
<quoted text>
This is God's world, I just live in it! Sometimes it's more of a challenge than others, I'm just thankful I'm not related to you in a any consanguineous way. It would be the first time I ever considered hurting myself!:-)
Actually, your headliner assertion here is a lie! I believe freedom, religious or otherwise should be a national gaurantee as it was in the 1st constitutional ammendment.(for all)
I believe the separation clause was adequate, but no decree devised of man will ever withstand the onsloght suffered by this simple, self-explanitory statement! At least, not in the absence of national unity and due regard for the perils of citizen apathy, pacifism and enormous laziness.
When you realize how a straight forward and simple decree has been utterly bastardized to the point that it can actually be represented to mean the opposite from that which was, it's easy to understand why our nation will not stand much longer.
In my opinion this is God's world. The issue I have with you is the God you post about is not the God I have a personal relationship with. Further, if he were, the thought of spending eternity with you would make Hell look quite appealing.

Since: Feb 13

Guild

#76148 Apr 12, 2013
I ran across this video...and as much as it pains me to say it, it's difficult to find much to rebut in it. I could post something that would alienate many with some pretty radical thoughts of mine regarding the use of US military by President Bush (post Afghanistan) and Barack Obama.

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/04/starve-be...

I pretty much agree with the intent of the man in the video.

Until this country rids itself of the elitists that have riddled it like a disease, maybe we should "starve the beast."

Until Al Qaeda attacked the mainland US, we hadn't had a true "fighting for our freedom" war since World War II.

They played our patriotism like a violin.

We put puppet regimes in place after we ourselves send our kids in to die fighting, instead of their own pathetic, cowardly excuses for "men".
Then the puppets turn on us.

For the past several years, since the main war against Al Qaeda, our GI's have being murdered, crippled, maimed, and sacrificed purely for political reasons, and to make money for others.(This is EXACTLY what happened back in my day)

Our veterans are dumped onto a Veterans Administration that cannot or will not adequately care for their wounds, disabilities, and the PTSD most of them suffer with.
An entire generation of veterans is at risk.

I see where this gentleman is coming from.
I really do.

Let Haji and Faroukh die for their own worthless sand, "for their freedom."

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