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Open Eyes

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#21
May 7, 2013
 
PGD wrote:
Amazing how some just glaze over the parts they do not want to see and only read what they want to hear.
Were did it say that the photographer signed anything? In light of this, the photographer has the right to direct the "couple" to someone else. And for those of you who say Jesus excepted everyone, I say to you, read the Bible again. In fact read the exact words you have written, Jesus did not accept many and accepted only those, "such as sinners, who were open to his teachings, he was open to talking to." Your very words hit it on the nail. Now listen to your own words. He only accepts us if we accept him. This means we must strive to not sin. THIS DOES NOT GIVE US PERMISSION TO SIN.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
"Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[b] 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
Yes, many do just pick and choose the parts they want to see. In this case, the photographer as a business offered wedding photography. The courts correctly applied the law,“Once one offers a service publicly, they must do so without impermissible exception.” The courts held that: Elane Photography’s refusal to photograph Willock’s commitment ceremony violated the NMHRA (New Mexico Human Rights Act). No business can discriminate. If you wish to read the case you can find it by Google: elane photography llc v. willock

It is not a sin to photograph a gay service, however If they felt it was somehow a sign that they approved gay weddings, they need to get out of the service industry because the law does not abide by that sort of thinking. That goes back to civil rights. The law of the land. The bible is clear that Christians are to abide by the law of the land so it goes well for them.

From a Christian point of view, Jesus turned no one away (please show me where he did). In fact, he said,...whoever comes to me I will never drive away. He did show his distaste for things people did like the money changers in the courtyard or his pointed rebuttals of the Pharisees. And he made it very clear that there will be those who will be judged in a way they are refused entry into His Kingdom. THAT is where anyone gets turned away, but not until then. And those in that list in 1 Corinthians, are those who have not accepted Jesus. You are correct to say being saved is NOT a free ticket to sin, and we should do our best to avoid sinning, but sad to say, we still sin.
Open Eyes

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Are you seriously spouting this "god" nonsense in 2013? Grow up! Your bronze age hocus-pocus is tiring. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Who died and made you King? Prove to me that Jesus never existed and prove to me there is no God. If you cannot do either, then your statement is nothing but your opinion.
Open Eyes

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May 7, 2013
 
cautious wrote:
Does the Bible not state that we should not be conformed of this world? That we should flee from sin? That we should teach his word. The Bible has not changed with this world it has stayed the same and its teachings are the same. It states that we willl be persicuted for our beliefs. The photographer was fined for his decision reguardless of what his reasons were. He may have lost some $ but if he made his choice based on his faith and belief in God then he will be blessed 10x over. We have to believe and stand firm in our.beleifs no matter what the consequences. We show our love for him and suffer for him as he did for us and we will be well compensated.
And I ask you, where is his sin? The photographer would not sin simply by taking pictures of the ceremony. The photographer's belief was wrong and there is no scripture to back their decision up.

Even the Judge in this case said, if the photographer wants to tell the couple how the ceremony is wrong, that their life style is wrong, they have every right to voice that opinion as long as they continue snapping pictures. When Jesus talked about be rewarded for sticking up for Christianity, he wasn't talking about refusing to take their picture, he was talking about defending YOUR Christianity when persecuted for BEING a Christian. The photographer was NOT defending Christianity nor were they being persecuted for it. There is no sin in a Christian photographer taking pictures of sinners. In fact, they lost an opportunity to talk about the Word to this couple and their friends.
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May 7, 2013
 
Open Eyes wrote:
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Who died and made you King? Prove to me that Jesus never existed and prove to me there is no God. If you cannot do either, then your statement is nothing but your opinion.
They must not teach basic logic in school here. You can't prove negatives genius. For someone to believe your extraordinary claim, you better have extraordinary evidence
Logic and losers

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They must not teach basic logic in school here. You can't prove negatives genius. For someone to believe your extraordinary claim, you better have extraordinary evidence
To have faith in anything or anyone, one must accept the possibilities of receiving something. No one said they were looking for logic. If we did not have faith of finding something we cannot see we would not bother looking. Just because the possibilities escape your application of logic does not mean it does not exist. You just haven't found it, but are you even looking? I would guess no. What else have you missed because you weren't looking?
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To have faith in anything or anyone, one must accept the possibilities of receiving something. No one said they were looking for logic. If we did not have faith of finding something we cannot see we would not bother looking. Just because the possibilities escape your application of logic does not mean it does not exist. You just haven't found it, but are you even looking? I would guess no. What else have you missed because you weren't looking?
What have you missed because you won't look for leprechauns in the woods? You have to set aside logic and have faith that they are out there making cookies for nabisco.
Open Eyes

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May 9, 2013
 
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What have you missed because you won't look for leprechauns in the woods? You have to set aside logic and have faith that they are out there making cookies for nabisco.
Here is where you fail. Logic is defined as reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity: "experience is a better guide to this than deductive logic".

First, you attempt to compare a known fabricated, made-up, imaginary, fictional image with one considered real by a large part of society.(In fact, you are of the minority in that thought). You simply cannot take a "known and acceptable fact" and compare it to an "unknown and acceptable belief". They are totally unrelated.

Second, you are attempting to apply logic to something that defies logic to begin with. Is your doubt or disbelief logical? I would say no for the very same reasons you claim my belief is not logical. You are totally unable to logically validate a negative as you say.

So, in the end, you are no wiser and have not provided any reasoning behind your doubt for others to use in order to decided for themselves. To top that all off, you also have no evidence as to why anything, including the Universe, exists. In other words, you have nothing and I have faith. Enjoy your nothing and I will enjoy my faith.

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