pack o rolls

Oak Ridge, NC

#175 Jan 17, 2013
Liza wrote:
I heard that a policemans better half was caught stealing at Kroger this week.
oh well she'll be fine. The charges will be dropped.
Really Sassy

Duluth, GA

#176 Jan 17, 2013
pack o rolls wrote:
<quoted text>oh well she'll be fine. The charges will be dropped.
No they weren't. 11/29 suspended with probation. That my friends would be called guilty as charged for theft. A slap on the hand? Of course. But as suspected she's back teaching children the tricks of her trade. JA does w remarkable job doesn't she?
sharron

Duluth, GA

#177 Jan 17, 2013
Really Sassy wrote:
<quoted text>No they weren't. 11/29 suspended with probation. That my friends would be called guilty as charged for theft. A slap on the hand? Of course. But as suspected she's back teaching children the tricks of her trade. JA does w remarkable job doesn't she?
That's what she deserves. I hope her children have to go to her probation officer with her so they can learn stealing isn't ok.
pack o rolls

Oak Ridge, NC

#178 Jan 17, 2013
Really Sassy wrote:
<quoted text>
No they weren't. 11/29 suspended with probation. That my friends would be called guilty as charged for theft. A slap on the hand? Of course. But as suspected she's back teaching children the tricks of her trade. JA does w remarkable job doesn't she?
Yes i had heard that about the Teacher. My post was in reply to the one hat was referring to a cops wife. Hi Really Sassy how's this weather treating ya?
Really Sassy

Duluth, GA

#179 Jan 17, 2013
pack o rolls wrote:
<quoted text>Yes i had heard that about the Teacher. My post was in reply to the one hat was referring to a cops wife. Hi Really Sassy how's this weather treating ya?
The weather outside is frightening, the warmth of inside inviting, let it snow let it snow let it snow.
Tim

Lewisburg, TN

#180 Jan 18, 2013
sharron wrote:
<quoted text>
That's what she deserves. I hope her children have to go to her probation officer with her so they can learn stealing isn't ok.
I know the story is so much more juicy to all of you if you can make it into what you want;however, for those who would like the informed truth: The case was ruled Nolle Prosequi. I think someone already posted that, but I'm sure if you bothered to look it up you wanted to ignore the definition because it doesn't fit your aweful story that you WANT to believe.It is not a dismissed case. it says Refuse to prosecute, prosecuter finds the defendant innocent, or the evidence doesn't support guilt. I was in the courtroom waiting for my traffic case and I heard what they said. I can tell you the prosecuter didn't treat the other shoplifting cases this way, and he doesn't care who you are.He obviously believed that she didn't do it intentionally. She also doesn't have to see a probation officer. The 11/29 is what Judge Brandon tells most defendants about not coming back in his court for anything.He told me that about my speeding ticket,but Im not on probation! Kroger did the "banned for a year" because (likeshe said) she did walk out not paying attention to the fact that only her medicine was rung up.
A friend

Lewisburg, TN

#181 Jan 18, 2013
I know that only her close friends know this and I hope she doesn't mind me saying this,but I'm sick of you bashing my friend. She was on the phone with her doctor and was finding out if her biopsy she had the previous week was malignant cancer. She has been going through 3 months of Tests and different medicines. And (besides her own two girls) the thing she has worried about most was missing time from work and not being there for her kids in her class. Get a Life! And (even with her flaws) You could only wish to have the caring heart and the special gift she has to get through to the most troubled child!!!
I fought the law and the

Lewisburg, TN

#182 Jan 18, 2013
Tim wrote:
<quoted text>I know the story is so much more juicy to all of you if you can make it into what you want;however, for those who would like the informed truth: The case was ruled Nolle Prosequi. I think someone already posted that, but I'm sure if you bothered to look it up you wanted to ignore the definition because it doesn't fit your aweful story that you WANT to believe.It is not a dismissed case. it says Refuse to prosecute, prosecuter finds the defendant innocent, or the evidence doesn't support guilt. I was in the courtroom waiting for my traffic case and I heard what they said. I can tell you the prosecuter didn't treat the other shoplifting cases this way, and he doesn't care who you are.He obviously believed that she didn't do it intentionally. She also doesn't have to see a probation officer. The 11/29 is what Judge Brandon tells most defendants about not coming back in his court for anything.He told me that about my speeding ticket,but Im not on probation! Kroger did the "banned for a year" because (likeshe said) she did walk out not paying attention to the fact that only her medicine was rung up.
All find and dandy, however no employer has their hands tied by a court when it comes to how they treat their employee. If this teacher has a history then it is their option as to how to handle it. Inside a court room, innocence is considered until proven otherwise, however outside is not the same. The employer can consider many options especially if there is a history. The employer does not have to prove the person is guilty, just culpable. This is a right to work state and the employer does not have to give reason for firing.
Really Sassy

Duluth, GA

#183 Jan 18, 2013
I fought the law and the wrote:
<quoted text>All find and dandy, however no employer has their hands tied by a court when it comes to how they treat their employee. If this teacher has a history then it is their option as to how to handle it. Inside a court room, innocence is considered until proven otherwise, however outside is not the same. The employer can consider many options especially if there is a history. The employer does not have to prove the person is guilty, just culpable. This is a right to work state and the employer does not have to give reason for firing.
Once a teacher is tenured that becomes much more difficult and my guess is that she is just that. Thousands of dollars and man hours then comes into play in order to dismiss her. That aside, when your boss is your parents drinking buddy that goes a long way.

We could sugar coat things all day long and still not find a logical reason for ANY educator to be involved in breaking the laws. After all, do you want your children to learn from someone who sets an example such as that?
Really Sassy

Duluth, GA

#184 Jan 18, 2013
A friend wrote:
I know that only her close friends know this and I hope she doesn't mind me saying this,but I'm sick of you bashing my friend. She was on the phone with her doctor and was finding out if her biopsy she had the previous week was malignant cancer. She has been going through 3 months of Tests and different medicines. And (besides her own two girls) the thing she has worried about most was missing time from work and not being there for her kids in her class. Get a Life! And (even with her flaws) You could only wish to have the caring heart and the special gift she has to get through to the most troubled child!!!
She has medical coverage provided y a job she should have been released from for her "other" little problems. Repeat offenders doesn't deserve to be cradled and their wrong doings swept under the rug. As a matter of fact that cell phone has gotten her into trouble before at her workplace. Some people never learn. You of course, are just like her no doubt, another piece of work who thinks your dirty little secrets ate safely tucked away.
Time will tell

Lewisburg, TN

#185 Jan 18, 2013
A friend wrote:
I know that only her close friends know this and I hope she doesn't mind me saying this,but I'm sick of you bashing my friend. She was on the phone with her doctor and was finding out if her biopsy she had the previous week was malignant cancer. She has been going through 3 months of Tests and different medicines. And (besides her own two girls) the thing she has worried about most was missing time from work and not being there for her kids in her class. Get a Life! And (even with her flaws) You could only wish to have the caring heart and the special gift she has to get through to the most troubled child!!!
Nobody is attempting to bash your friend, they are simply saying she has a history of problems and being a teacher should be held accountable for her actions. She was banned from Kroger for a reason else she could fight that... We all have problems and get distracted, and even I have walked out of store without paying for something, but came promptly back and did. As I said before, if she was on the up and up, certainly her demeanor should have spoke for her and the store say "no problem" happens more than you think. But they didn't. They banned her for a year! She doesn't just run a car wash or work as a cashier, she is a teacher of young children and she should be held at a much higher standard than others. She may be a good friend, and she may be a good teacher, but she obviously is not of good character as proven in this forum. Can you dispute that she has never been in trouble before? Can you dispute that by being banned by Kroger that they don't approve of her being in their store because she has some sort of character flaw? If you didn't know her as a friend, would you be saying the same things?

I wish her well and hope she gets some help. You're a close friend, you should care enough about her to see that she gets the help she needs. But this school system is being dragged down by teachers who should not be there and by those who are running it into the ground. Yes, I am speaking from authority. I've been here many many years and all my kids came through from pre-k to 12th. Thank goodness they got out before it took a dump!!
heller

United States

#186 Jan 18, 2013
I just love people who slam other people for talking on this site and yet they are on here as well...Way to contradict yourself..
Shame on u all

Columbia, TN

#187 Jan 18, 2013
How many have been charged by Kroger twice for the same iteam and the person did not know it till they got home, and looked at the receipt yet, should that person charge kroger for a crime?

Shame on Kroger for not accepting the ladies mistake as just what it was a mistake!

Shame on all of u for convicting any for simple mistakes that any could make!
Go do yourself

Lewisburg, TN

#188 Jan 18, 2013
Shame on u all wrote:
How many have been charged by Kroger twice for the same iteam and the person did not know it till they got home, and looked at the receipt yet, should that person charge kroger for a crime?
Shame on Kroger for not accepting the ladies mistake as just what it was a mistake!
Shame on all of u for convicting any for simple mistakes that any could make!
I just recently bought a product and realized they did not give me the sales price. I went back to the store and they gave me ALL my money back for the product because I was the first to point it out to them!! I have never had a problem of them double charging me and not owning up to it. Unless you go in the store often looking to scam them out of money claiming double charges, they most likely will refund you. They know no one is going to make money coming back to the store over and over with the same claim. We are not talking about simple mistakes. Kroger would never ban you over simple mistakes. They realized they did not have enough evidence to make what they saw stick so they dropped the charges but stuck to banning her. They were sure enough of her guilt to BAN her! What part of that don't you get?

You are just more proof of why our society is going off a cliff. You don't have the guts to demand that people do the right thing or hold others accountable!
Repent and Save Yr Self

Columbia, TN

#189 Jan 18, 2013
Go do yourself wrote:
<quoted text>
I just recently bought a product and realized they did not give me the sales price. I went back to the store and they gave me ALL my money back for the product because I was the first to point it out to them!! I have never had a problem of them double charging me and not owning up to it. Unless you go in the store often looking to scam them out of money claiming double charges, they most likely will refund you. They know no one is going to make money coming back to the store over and over with the same claim. We are not talking about simple mistakes. Kroger would never ban you over simple mistakes. They realized they did not have enough evidence to make what they saw stick so they dropped the charges but stuck to banning her. They were sure enough of her guilt to BAN her! What part of that don't you get?
You are just more proof of why our society is going off a cliff. You don't have the guts to demand that people do the right thing or hold others accountable!
I have been charged twice for the same iteam, yet just forgot it for what it was a mistake!
Next time will watch closer for how much will any business lose by banning people for simple mistakes all might make!
If they had just ask the lady if she paid or had made a mistake and forgot to pay and let her pay then look how much better off all had been!
Go do yourself

Lewisburg, TN

#190 Jan 18, 2013
Repent and Save Yr Self wrote:
<quoted text>
I have been charged twice for the same iteam, yet just forgot it for what it was a mistake!
Next time will watch closer for how much will any business lose by banning people for simple mistakes all might make!
If they had just ask the lady if she paid or had made a mistake and forgot to pay and let her pay then look how much better off all had been!
I agree with you. But you can best believe that Kroger and other stores take shoplifting seriously. For Kroger to have banned her, there must have been enough evidence to do that. Perhaps they were watching her, maybe they waited for her to take the items out of her cart and start to put them in her car. At that point, wouldn't you know because they were not in bags that you didn't pay for them?

Kroger has a reputation to uphold just like you and me. They are not out to nail every person who accidentally walks out without paying as I am sure it happens to others. There are telling signs that a person knows what they are doing and knows they are stealing. It is not rocket science and rarely are they going to make that mistake of falsely accusing people. However, proving that in a court of law can be tricky if you don't have taped proof.
More Questions

Columbia, TN

#191 Jan 18, 2013
Go do yourself wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with you. But you can best believe that Kroger and other stores take shoplifting seriously. For Kroger to have banned her, there must have been enough evidence to do that. Perhaps they were watching her, maybe they waited for her to take the items out of her cart and start to put them in her car. At that point, wouldn't you know because they were not in bags that you didn't pay for them?
Kroger has a reputation to uphold just like you and me. They are not out to nail every person who accidentally walks out without paying as I am sure it happens to others. There are telling signs that a person knows what they are doing and knows they are stealing. It is not rocket science and rarely are they going to make that mistake of falsely accusing people. However, proving that in a court of law can be tricky if you don't have taped proof.
How could they banned anyone if it was not a conviction when if they are a public store but if it had happen the way it was read why would any person done that way even go back in any kroger store ever?
We all make mistakes, even stores, and if we don't forgive others for their mistakes how do we expect to get forgiveness for our own mistakes?
Is this America where guilt is proven not assumed?


I fought the law and the

Lewisburg, TN

#192 Jan 18, 2013
More Questions wrote:
<quoted text>
How could they banned anyone if it was not a conviction when if they are a public store but if it had happen the way it was read why would any person done that way even go back in any kroger store ever?
We all make mistakes, even stores, and if we don't forgive others for their mistakes how do we expect to get forgiveness for our own mistakes?
Is this America where guilt is proven not assumed?
An owner of property (stores), or the person in lawful possession of the property, can serve another person with notice against trespass. They don't have to have a reason. Kroger is a public store but is privately owned. But being a public service they don't just ban anyone for looking cross eyed, they use the law to do it. It is just like a restraining order.

Forgiveness is divine, but that is between people. Forgetting is another. If I try to set your house on fire every time I come over, will you continue letting me come in? You can forgive the person, but that does not mean you have to let them come in, especially if you suspect they will do it again. That would be foolish of you to keep letting them come in and set your house on fire.

Mistakes should not repeat themselves. If you get accused of taking without paying more than once that is usually when you will be banned. A store will not necessarily ban on the first offense unless you are convicted unless they have good cause to ban you.
Something Wrong

Columbia, TN

#193 Jan 18, 2013
Is it Only in Lewisburg
So speaking of mistakes can Lewisburg Electric overcharging the city for street lights hundred of thousand of dollars for 6 or 7 years, then remeber to pay, yet people who might forget to pay get took to court and band from stores as others make a big deal out of people who shop lift or just forget to pay for pety stulf?

Why not if they going to forget and forgive one forgive them all?
questions questions quest

Lewisburg, TN

#194 Jan 18, 2013
Something Wrong wrote:
Is it Only in Lewisburg
So speaking of mistakes can Lewisburg Electric overcharging the city for street lights hundred of thousand of dollars for 6 or 7 years, then remeber to pay, yet people who might forget to pay get took to court and band from stores as others make a big deal out of people who shop lift or just forget to pay for pety stulf?
Why not if they going to forget and forgive one forgive them all?
You bore me. And there's that stupid comment about L. Elect.

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