Vantage Foods update
Nicholas Adlee

West Monroe, LA

#61 Jun 29, 2007
Crown wrote:
<quoted text>Tom Joad's post said "Companies"- Plural. He was talking about more than one company. You can't be pleased.
???Pleased about what???
bob

Clarksville, TN

#62 Jun 29, 2007
Nicholas Adlee wrote:
<quoted text>
???Pleased about what???
They were saying You can't be pleased about anything
Nicholas Adlee

Clarksville, TN

#63 Jun 30, 2007
bob wrote:
<quoted text>They were saying You can't be pleased about anything
I respectfully disagree. Going back to earlier posts, I have defended Vantage Foods from the beginning. I believe that new industries or companies in Lenoir is a very good thing. As far as Vantage Foods wages, McDonalds wages, Wal-Marts wages - it's all a part of the way the vall bounces. Whether you start out @$6.15,$8.00,$12.00 or even $20.00, if for that particular company which you have agreed to work for their starting wages are low, it's somewhat that way across the board. You have to start @ the bottom and work up. When a company offers you employment you have the right to say no. If someone is willing to give it a try and see where it takes them, then they should be supported. I have friends and family who started in the furniture industry for as low as 30 cent an hour and 5 years ago made $16.00 an hour. They didn't start at $16.00. I feel that Vantage and Google and the new Grocery Store coming is a good and wonderful thing and will be good for Lenoir. A positive sign of growth. It's not me that's not pleased it's the people complaining about the starting wages. The bottom line is people will do whatever needs to be done to support their families.
carol

Clarksville, TN

#64 Jun 30, 2007
Nicholas Adlee wrote:
<quoted text>
I respectfully disagree. Going back to earlier posts, I have defended Vantage Foods from the beginning. I believe that new industries or companies in Lenoir is a very good thing. As far as Vantage Foods wages, McDonalds wages, Wal-Marts wages - it's all a part of the way the vall bounces. Whether you start out @$6.15,$8.00,$12.00 or even $20.00, if for that particular company which you have agreed to work for their starting wages are low, it's somewhat that way across the board. You have to start @ the bottom and work up. When a company offers you employment you have the right to say no. If someone is willing to give it a try and see where it takes them, then they should be supported. I have friends and family who started in the furniture industry for as low as 30 cent an hour and 5 years ago made $16.00 an hour. They didn't start at $16.00. I feel that Vantage and Google and the new Grocery Store coming is a good and wonderful thing and will be good for Lenoir. A positive sign of growth. It's not me that's not pleased it's the people complaining about the starting wages. The bottom line is people will do whatever needs to be done to support their families.
Very good post .People think you start at the top pay scale .I started at $1.25 per hr when other people were making $5.25 per hr .You work EVERYDAY and you will get raises,not work 4 days one week and 3 the next.I am a firm believer that hard work will pay off .Oh any by the way I make a little over $20.00 per hr now.I have seen them come and seen them go .A person has to show a company they are willing to work .
Billy Lenoir NC

United States

#65 Jul 16, 2007
Does anybody know what Grocery Store is coming to Lenoir? I heard it was a place called Publix, but i'm not sure. I think that with Google and Vantage Foods and AMPRTI and the Wal*Mart Supercenter(s) will help Lenoir build back up. Does anybody know what is going to be in the Lenoir Mall? A lot of people say Goody's, Kohl's, or even Target would be great in there. I'm excited about all the new things that are coming to Caldwell County.
lost

Clarksville, TN

#66 Jul 16, 2007
Billy Lenoir NC wrote:
Does anybody know what Grocery Store is coming to Lenoir? I heard it was a place called Publix, but i'm not sure. I think that with Google and Vantage Foods and AMPRTI and the Wal*Mart Supercenter(s) will help Lenoir build back up. Does anybody know what is going to be in the Lenoir Mall? A lot of people say Goody's, Kohl's, or even Target would be great in there. I'm excited about all the new things that are coming to Caldwell County.
Don't count your chickens before the hatch
good timz

Morganton, NC

#67 Jul 16, 2007
Mulholland wrote:
Some posted here earlier that the workforce will be mostly illegal immigrants. And that's going to be the most likely scenario.
Since there's no one willing to enforce the law, Let's look at the potential dangers to the public:
Will these people be examined by the Health Department?
We're already aware of the Goat slaughtering in The Captain's Restaurant in Rowan county that left one dead and 15 others sickened with E-Coli
And the TB cases found in a chicken processing plant in SC last week.
And how about the knowledge that those illegals are known for their lack of personal Hygiene? and the Intestinal worms that are so hard to get rid of....These are documented facts. The citizens are in serious danger. Not only from imported diseases, It includes murderers, drug dealers, And all the other criminal acts perpetrated on us. Corporate America has bought and pocketed our entire State Government on all levels.
Listen and take Heed!!
good timz

Morganton, NC

#68 Jul 16, 2007
Read a book called "The Jungle", Upton Sinclair I think. Was standard reading back in the day. Then apply it to the current situation. Mulholland's post will make alot of sense.
good timz

Morganton, NC

#69 Jul 16, 2007
bell-camp wrote:
<quoted text>How do they expect to keep workers? I would say you lasted 13days longer than I could. I would think to work in conditions like that , they would want to pay the workers more money. A salary is an incentive to give 100% but for $8.00 hr It would be hard to give 100%.But then again you're frozen and not thinking clearly.I hope you find something better and with better pay.
That kind of thinking is exactly what opens the door for the illegals. They will. America has become way to soft,everything is way to convenient. Try getting a kid of today off the couch and do anything that doesn't involve a cell phone or video game. I remember times when 8.00 dollars an hour would have most certainly got most anything done. And now we are to arrogant as to say 8.00 is not money. Pop always said " a little something an hour is better than a whole lot of nothing an hour". Look at Case Farms in Morganton, who is working there? Caucasian or Black kids for summer jobs or a means of self support? NO. Illegals. What about the construction industry? Nope, illegals. American kids don't want to sweat or get dirty. What's gonna happen when all your Plumbers, Electricions, and HVAC are gone. That's right, You'll be trusting an illigal.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not for the illegals but we are doing it to ourselves.
Susan

Black Mountain, NC

#70 Jul 16, 2007
good timz wrote:
<quoted text>
That kind of thinking is exactly what opens the door for the illegals. They will. America has become way to soft,everything is way to convenient. Try getting a kid of today off the couch and do anything that doesn't involve a cell phone or video game. I remember times when 8.00 dollars an hour would have most certainly got most anything done. And now we are to arrogant as to say 8.00 is not money. Pop always said " a little something an hour is better than a whole lot of nothing an hour". Look at Case Farms in Morganton, who is working there? Caucasian or Black kids for summer jobs or a means of self support? NO. Illegals. What about the construction industry? Nope, illegals. American kids don't want to sweat or get dirty. What's gonna happen when all your Plumbers, Electricions, and HVAC are gone. That's right, You'll be trusting an illigal.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not for the illegals but we are doing it to ourselves.
You're so right. What must I have been thinking.$8.00 an hour is really good money, why thats $320.00 big ones a week. All I was saying that with temp. so cold you can't hardly work. Why not give them(Americans)$10.00 hr. and they won't have to hire illegals.You know as well as I do that business men hire the illegals because they'll work for peanuts. They have no over head, but the American families do, they have medical bills, groceries and taxes (we can't forget Uncle Sam) but stop and think about it. We see new mexican business on every corner. They have Restaurants, grocery stores and the other day I saw where they had even opened a dog grooming business.Now where does this money come from? Small Business Loans. Now let an American try and get a SBL and I think you'll be surprised. Now I'm not against illegals I just wish they would all go HOME. That's how I feel like it or not.
good timz

Morganton, NC

#71 Jul 16, 2007
Susan wrote:
<quoted text> You're so right. What must I have been thinking.$8.00 an hour is really good money, why thats $320.00 big ones a week. All I was saying that with temp. so cold you can't hardly work. Why not give them(Americans)$10.00 hr. and they won't have to hire illegals.You know as well as I do that business men hire the illegals because they'll work for peanuts. They have no over head, but the American families do, they have medical bills, groceries and taxes (we can't forget Uncle Sam) but stop and think about it. We see new mexican business on every corner. They have Restaurants, grocery stores and the other day I saw where they had even opened a dog grooming business.Now where does this money come from? Small Business Loans. Now let an American try and get a SBL and I think you'll be surprised. Now I'm not against illegals I just wish they would all go HOME. That's how I feel like it or not.
Lordy Hun, we're both preaching to the choir. I agree with your statements on the illegals and the SBL. I started my own business in one of those hard trades 4 yrs ago. And definatly w/o an sbl.
But when jr. can't find a job b cause he's too cold. And miss spoiled thang's cosmotology (spelling) school didn't work out and they are both sitting at home doing nothing. What is that doing for your future SS check or mine for that matter.
Susan

Black Mountain, NC

#72 Jul 17, 2007
good timz wrote:
<quoted text>
Lordy Hun, we're both preaching to the choir. I agree with your statements on the illegals and the SBL. I started my own business in one of those hard trades 4 yrs ago. And definatly w/o an sbl.
But when jr. can't find a job b cause he's too cold. And miss spoiled thang's cosmotology (spelling) school didn't work out and they are both sitting at home doing nothing. What is that doing for your future SS check or mine for that matter.
Ok I agree with you about kids sitting on the couch and doing nothing. Now the reason for my change of heart is this : I was talking to a lady and she said her son got a job at a local furniture plant for the summer(he's a student at Western Carolina) quit after 2 days , the job was to hard and it was to hot in the plant. So he now sleep, goes out with buddies and gets spending money from mom and dad. I must give you this "YOU are RIGHT" I guess if we don't want to do the job then there's an illegal waiting in line.
itis

Lenoir, NC

#73 Jul 18, 2007
carol wrote:
<quoted text>Very good post .People think you start at the top pay scale .I started at $1.25 per hr when other people were making $5.25 per hr .You work EVERYDAY and you will get raises,not work 4 days one week and 3 the next.I am a firm believer that hard work will pay off .Oh any by the way I make a little over $20.00 per hr now.I have seen them come and seen them go .A person has to show a company they are willing to work .
In some cases you may get ahead but in others you don't. I've seen and have been in situations that the better workers get passed over for the butt kisser.
Father and son combos make another mess, just as people who like to lie on others at work. I saw two employees steal a company blind just because they made lies up on other employees. I personally worked two shifts to learn a job and passed all test with flying colrs just to see the job go to a big wheels son who didn't even know the title of the job he got, much less how to do it.
Yes, hard work pays off if you work at the right place.
Ever had a job where you did the work of 2 or 3 people? I know 2 employees that got injured and when they went back to work they were given two jobs at the same pay. Lay one off give their duties to another without a wage increase, is that fair. One of these people did two peoples work and they wanted them to even help with another one. This was the reward that they got for 20 years service,17 years perfect attendance and was rewarded several employee of the month honors for saving the company hundred of thousands of dollars a year. The last reward they got was layed off because of outsourceing.
The above person did the same jobs as other people and more but the other people got an extra weeks paid vacation. Some people know all about working hard and fairness on the job all to well. IT'S NOT WHAT YOU KNOWQ BUT WHO YOU KNOW (clean version)
Angeleyes042985

Linville, NC

#74 Aug 6, 2007
They said they start everyone out at $8.00 per hour and after your probation period is up, which is 60 days, you get paid according to what kind of work you do.
Lincolnton NC

United States

#75 Aug 8, 2007
I was a supervisor at Vantage foods before it opened and a while after it opened. I helped hire all of the hourly employees along with two other supervisors. They were not truthful about my hours at first or until after I was hired anyway and when we hired the hourlies we were told what to say to them about there hours. It was "may work some Sundays but not likely" well the very first Sunday (Fathers Day Sunday) after we went live we worked those guys and gurls about 12 hours. I worked about 14 hours that day at salary. I was the first of the management to quite this job but all these guys felt the same. These guys made me look like a bad manager by lying to these desparate workers. Further more on the lines I was sopposed to manage the machines they put in place were not ready to operate. The techs could not evan get them to work right and they gave me one day to test before we went live. Talk about poor managment. This was not the Production managers fault it was the Service Centers Managers poor judgment. This guy as a manager had no support to offer anyone. A few times I asked him for advice on the problems of the machines that he had put in place and he replied " I dont know what to tell you man" Ive been in Meat Processing for about 15 years and have never seen such a poor general manager put in place especailly to start a brand new case ready facility and with a smug smile. But Ive moved on.
Lincolnton NC

United States

#76 Aug 8, 2007
Ohh yeh we did hire about 15 or 20 Latinos BUT some of these guys were the only ones that had meat processing experience. The layed off butchers from Lowes would not work for the wage we were offering and I cant blame them.
Bald Harry

Charlotte, NC

#77 Aug 8, 2007
Why does anyone think Vantage came here in the first place?
They knew the former furniture workers were hired in at a calculated break even wage all these years. They hope most workers will be as subservient and loyal as they were to their former slave owners.
oh my

Beaufort, SC

#78 Aug 8, 2007
Bald Harry wrote:
Why does anyone think Vantage came here in the first place?
They knew the former furniture workers were hired in at a calculated break even wage all these years. They hope most workers will be as subservient and loyal as they were to their former slave owners.
They came here to be close to MDI...and the labor would be less expensive than Hickory. The Meat at Lowes looks awful...I would not buy it...bloody, poor cutting, and dis-colored. Bring back the butchers in the stores
Chelle

Vancouver, Canada

#79 Aug 9, 2007
I have worked for the Vantage Food in Chilliwack, BC for just over 4 yrs...reasons was to expand horizons, and economic growth. With any new business expanding there are bound to be lots of issues, whether it will be mechanical, employee related, or management. Things need to take time to get all the kinks out which is a given in all companies starting out, dont you think? or at least thats my opinion. We just moved into our new facility this last week, but because everyone is trained properly, it wasnt so much of an issue, but still there are kinks to be worked out. best of luck to them:)
oh my

United States

#80 Aug 10, 2007
Chelle wrote:
I have worked for the Vantage Food in Chilliwack, BC for just over 4 yrs...reasons was to expand horizons, and economic growth. With any new business expanding there are bound to be lots of issues, whether it will be mechanical, employee related, or management. Things need to take time to get all the kinks out which is a given in all companies starting out, dont you think? or at least thats my opinion. We just moved into our new facility this last week, but because everyone is trained properly, it wasnt so much of an issue, but still there are kinks to be worked out. best of luck to them:)
I agree with you for the most part, but when you're talking about food there is no room for error. Sorry, but that's the way I feel. The cold chain is not consistant which leads to poor quality product.

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