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Faith

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Chris Barlowe committed tax fraud (undervalued equipment resulting in a 57,000 dollar tax bill) committed a felony when he wrote a bad check for thousands of dollars on a closed account. He claims he is the wronged party and that Lane Bailey's attempts at recovering the rightfully owed tax was politically motivated.

Mr. Barlowe, you clearly do not have a handle on how to run your own business effectively--stop blaming others and whining that we don't have the whole story--until you can honor all your obligations, I believe you need to reconsider running for public office of any kind.

http://www.newstopic.net/view/full_story/9635...
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I don't know all of the allegations against Chris Barlowe, so I can't argue for him or against him, however, as a small business owner in Caldwell County, I acan honestly say the general public don't understand how hard this economy is on the small business. Credit lines that helped with short term cash flow when somebody didn't pay you for services rendered for 90+ days have been closed. Even the "community" banks aren't helping. I know SO many business that have had to just close their doors and lay everyone off. The business owners aren't just bearing the burden of providing for their own families, they carry the responsibility of keeping their business up and running as profitably as possible to continue to provide jobs that support their employees families. Gice him a break. Where did innocent until proven guilty go? If he committed a felony, then he will be charged, until then, leave it alone and let the proper authorities take care of it and quit bashing people online hiding behind a screen name. I would say the same thing if you were bashing Lane Bailey, or Sheriff Jones, or Roger Hutchings or whoever.
Faith

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As a small business owner myself, I DO understand how difficult it is in this economy. I also understand and know which of my bank accounts are "open" and what bank accounts are "closed". I also understand the importance of honoring my obligations--something Chris Barlowe doesn't seem to understand. Chris Barlowe does not represent me or my interests as a small business owner. We need to demand better from those who seek public office.
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Faith wrote:
As a small business owner myself, I DO understand how difficult it is in this economy. I also understand and know which of my bank accounts are "open" and what bank accounts are "closed". I also understand the importance of honoring my obligations--something Chris Barlowe doesn't seem to understand. Chris Barlowe does not represent me or my interests as a small business owner. We need to demand better from those who seek public office.
Chris Barlowe needs to go ahead and withdrawl from commisioners race. If he cant manage his own finances I dont want him managing anything that has to do with me as a taxpayer. Same for Chris Becker.
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I heard the City of Lenoir owes Barlowe a lot of money for his work on the greenway and that he planned to pay his taxes once the City paid him.
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No matter if he owes tax money or not, Mr. Barlowe is owned by Ben Griffin. The 3 man team running for school board is also fronted by Mr. Griffin.
This county is deserves better than 1 man rule like Cuba or Venezuela - where no one can buck the supreme leader.
Ask yourselves just what Mr Barlowe will stand to gain by manipulating codes, tax rates, inspections etc. The ethics and conflict of interests just smell really bad on these candidates.
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Rest of the story wrote:
I heard the City of Lenoir owes Barlowe a lot of money for his work on the greenway and that he planned to pay his taxes once the City paid him.
I heard you like to listen to fairy tails. Here is one more for you:

The check is in the mail.
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caldwell guy wrote:
No matter if he owes tax money or not, Mr. Barlowe is owned by Ben Griffin. The 3 man team running for school board is also fronted by Mr. Griffin.
This county is deserves better than 1 man rule like Cuba or Venezuela - where no one can buck the supreme leader.
Ask yourselves just what Mr Barlowe will stand to gain by manipulating codes, tax rates, inspections etc. The ethics and conflict of interests just smell really bad on these candidates.
Does anything happen to you that you do not blame on Ben Griffin?
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I will continue to speak out against Mr. griffin's power grab politics until he and his stooges are defeated. Many county residents see this cheapening of our system for what it is.
You of course have your right to vote as you please.
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I will continue to speak out against Mr. griffin's power grab politics until he and his stooges are defeated. Many county residents see this cheapening of our system for what it is.
You of course have your right to vote as you please.
Your speaking out would be a lot more effective if you were to give some specific examples of how Ben has been bad for the county. Vagues stuff like power grabs and conflict of interest do not mean much with out citing some negative it has meant for the county.
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So what part of one man rule with direct financial conflict of interest do we not understand?
I think myself and others have enumerated many times and instances of these conflicts.
The main conflict is that Mr. griffin as one of the largest landowners in Caldwell county sets the tax rate, sets the building enforcement codes etc.
I have the same problem with David Barlow as the mayor of Lenoir, but i am not a Lenoir resident and it does not appear that Mr Barlow is running surrogates in other elections.
There are no longer two political parties in this county, there are Democrats, Libertarians, Independents,Griffin Republicans and those such as myself, a disenfranchised regular Republican. My hope is that voters that who do not favor the Griffin wing will find common cause and candidates to oppose the Griffinites. Notice that for Mr. Barlowe, the signs do not read vote Republican but vote Conservative. My contention is Mr. Griffin has coopeted the local conservative cause for his own ends. If you cannot see the conflict of interest and the power grabs then congrats to Ben , he has a solid supporter.
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caldwell guy wrote:
So what part of one man rule with direct financial conflict of interest do we not understand?
I think myself and others have enumerated many times and instances of these conflicts.
The main conflict is that Mr. griffin as one of the largest landowners in Caldwell county sets the tax rate, sets the building enforcement codes etc.
I have the same problem with David Barlow as the mayor of Lenoir, but i am not a Lenoir resident and it does not appear that Mr Barlow is running surrogates in other elections.
There are no longer two political parties in this county, there are Democrats, Libertarians, Independents,Griffin Republicans and those such as myself, a disenfranchised regular Republican. My hope is that voters that who do not favor the Griffin wing will find common cause and candidates to oppose the Griffinites. Notice that for Mr. Barlowe, the signs do not read vote Republican but vote Conservative. My contention is Mr. Griffin has coopeted the local conservative cause for his own ends. If you cannot see the conflict of interest and the power grabs then congrats to Ben , he has a solid supporter.
I see where it can give the appearance of conflict of interest but can you name a case where it has benefited him? Just because he could use his power for his own benefit does not mean that he has done that.

I would argue that the local republican party is mostly RINO. When they held the board they spent a lot of money and then had to do a big tax increase. Is that what you want to go back to doing? They were afraid to say no to the community college or the public school system so they pumped more and more money into them regardless of whether they needed it or if they were performing. At least Ben, Clay and Rob are willing to stand up to them.
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The gutting of the environmental health is a prime example of conflict of interest. BG had butted heads with inspectors for years.
By the way I am a strong supporter of the college and the school system.
Mr. Griffin is not, espceially of the public schools. I agree now is not the time for a new building project as the state matching funds are not there. However I know Mr.Griffin's religious views on the public schools and where he schooled his kids. Most county kids can't be homeschooled or be sent to private schools. Not funding and supporting local education is a sure ticket to keeping this county perpetually backwards and that is not acceptable. Mr. Griffin and myself are both products of our local school system. Neither of us have done too badly for ourselves. He needs to remember that and we do owe a debt to where we came from, not to cripple the schools.
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caldwell guy wrote:
The gutting of the environmental health is a prime example of conflict of interest. BG had butted heads with inspectors for years.
By the way I am a strong supporter of the college and the school system.
Mr. Griffin is not, espceially of the public schools. I agree now is not the time for a new building project as the state matching funds are not there. However I know Mr.Griffin's religious views on the public schools and where he schooled his kids. Most county kids can't be homeschooled or be sent to private schools. Not funding and supporting local education is a sure ticket to keeping this county perpetually backwards and that is not acceptable. Mr. Griffin and myself are both products of our local school system. Neither of us have done too badly for ourselves. He needs to remember that and we do owe a debt to where we came from, not to cripple the schools.
I agree that we do not need to build a new school at this time, but Mr.Griffin is making the current school board pay for standing up to him and the other two. As a parent of 3 in the school system I am proud for what our schools do.
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The gutting of the environmental health is a prime example of conflict of interest. BG had butted heads with inspectors for years.
By the way I am a strong supporter of the college and the school system.
Mr. Griffin is not, espceially of the public schools. I agree now is not the time for a new building project as the state matching funds are not there. However I know Mr.Griffin's religious views on the public schools and where he schooled his kids. Most county kids can't be homeschooled or be sent to private schools. Not funding and supporting local education is a sure ticket to keeping this county perpetually backwards and that is not acceptable. Mr. Griffin and myself are both products of our local school system. Neither of us have done too badly for ourselves. He needs to remember that and we do owe a debt to where we came from, not to cripple the schools.
What negative results have happened as a result of cutting staff at environmental health? I have not heard anything. Septic tanks still get approved, restaurants still get inspected. Those guys just have to work harder and earn their paychecks.

I support the schools too and I have kids who go there now as well. That does not mean I want my tax dollars thrown at them with out reason. I have heard that a large percentage of kids who graduate from our public schools and go on to college have to take remedial english and math classes to catch up. Hold them accountable for the money they get.
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Mr. Griffin can block funding as we saw on the WLMS issue as commission chair. Why does he want even more power over the schools? It is as check and balance noted, he is angry to being questioned or stood up to. I must also and cannot repeat enough- he has an agenda against public education and has never denied it. It is vital to our children and to the county's future that Sharrard, Wilson and Woodie be defeated in the school board election.
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Mr. Griffin can block funding as we saw on the WLMS issue as commission chair. Why does he want even more power over the schools? It is as check and balance noted, he is angry to being questioned or stood up to. I must also and cannot repeat enough- he has an agenda against public education and has never denied it. It is vital to our children and to the county's future that Sharrard, Wilson and Woodie be defeated in the school board election.
You keep throwing out accusations like he is against education but give nothing to substantiate your OPINION.

I do not think he wants to control the school board he just wants one that will do a better job. I agree with him on that. The current school board wanted to use every penny they had (or as it turns out thought they had) for one school and let the rest of the county suffer.
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Iknow him personally and know his stands.
Iplan to vote for changes on the board also, but not the 3 selected by Mr. griffin.
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Iknow him personally and know his stands.
Iplan to vote for changes on the board also, but not the 3 selected by Mr. griffin.
You are free to support whoever you want but it is a pretty weak argument for convincing anyone else when all you do is give your opinion with no facts to back it up.
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The facts have been discussed over and over. You have your opinion, i have mine. We will let the voters decide which direction the county goes.
The economy nationally and locally is so sorry sometimes i wonder if it makes any difference.
Ben may get his wish to be supreme commander but preside over a wasteland.

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