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PRUDENTIBUS

Leesville, LA

#1 Mar 6, 2013
Leesville City Councilmen Danny Dowd (District Three) and Mike Elliot (District Four)have been sued by the city to recoup over $122,000 in unautorized medical expenses (including premiums) that they KNOWINGLY took in violation of city ordinance and employee guidelines.
The Leesville City Employee Handbook specifically states that elected officials are not authorized to be on city health insurance, yet Dowd and Elliot were.
They STOLE over $122,000 from us when the city didn't have enough money to provide all of the services they were supposed to.
Still think these guys are "Robin Hoods" standing up for the little guy?
FYI- this suit is a matter of public record. Check with the clerk of court, suit # 87731.
So tell us again how these guys are heroes...

Since: Feb 12

Leesville Louisiana

#2 Mar 6, 2013
I sure hope the city employee who authorized the illegal payments on Elliott and Dowd's behalf is no longer employed....

Since: Feb 12

Leesville Louisiana

#4 Mar 6, 2013
People don't TAKE insurance premiums. Someone PAYS insurance premiums.

In this case, it appears that it was the City of Leesville who PAID premiums that they shouldn't have paid. It looks to me like the fault/blame here lies with some city employee who didn't know the rules and regulations about who was authorized to be on the city's health insurance and who was NOT authorized (Dowd and Elliott).

I agree with you that Dowd and Elliott should have read the City Handbook, and yes, they should have known they were not authorized to be on the city's insurance plan. BUT ... BUT ... the city employee who wrote and mailed the checks to the insurance company should have done the same thing, don't ya think?

Someone at City Hall should have told Elliott and Dowd, "Hey, guys, you are elected officials. You don't qualify."

Seems a bit hypocritical for the City to sue Elliott and Dows, when it was someone at The City who made the mistake!
PRUDENTIBUS wrote:
Leesville City Councilmen Danny Dowd (District Three) and Mike Elliot (District Four)have been sued by the city to recoup over $122,000 in unautorized medical expenses (including premiums) that they KNOWINGLY took in violation of city ordinance and employee guidelines.
The Leesville City Employee Handbook specifically states that elected officials are not authorized to be on city health insurance, yet Dowd and Elliot were.
They STOLE over $122,000 from us when the city didn't have enough money to provide all of the services they were supposed to.
Still think these guys are "Robin Hoods" standing up for the little guy?
FYI- this suit is a matter of public record. Check with the clerk of court, suit # 87731.
So tell us again how these guys are heroes...

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#5 Mar 6, 2013
PRUDENTIBUS wrote:
Leesville City Councilmen Danny Dowd (District Three) and Mike Elliot (District Four)have been sued by the city to recoup over $122,000 in unautorized medical expenses (including premiums) that they KNOWINGLY took in violation of city ordinance and employee guidelines.
The Leesville City Employee Handbook specifically states that elected officials are not authorized to be on city health insurance, yet Dowd and Elliot were.
They STOLE over $122,000 from us when the city didn't have enough money to provide all of the services they were supposed to.
Still think these guys are "Robin Hoods" standing up for the little guy?
FYI- this suit is a matter of public record. Check with the clerk of court, suit # 87731.
So tell us again how these guys are heroes...
Hmmmm... it took this long for all this to come to light.

Has the Mayor been paying their premiums this whole time without knowledge? No official sign off by the mayor, city administrators, etc? Surely there is some control in place to prevent this. Is the City not audited under a microscope on an annual basis? So questions arise from this.

Time for the finger pointing to begin. I say hold them all accountable. No excuses. None.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#6 Mar 6, 2013
bembh wrote:
<quoted text>People don't TAKE insurance premiums. Someone PAYS insurance premiums.

In this case, it appears that it was the City of Leesville who PAID premiums that they shouldn't have paid. It looks to me like the fault/blame here lies with some city employee who didn't know the rules and regulations about who was authorized to be on the city's health insurance and who was NOT authorized (Dowd and Elliott).

I agree with you that Dowd and Elliott should have read the City Handbook, and yes, they should have known they were not authorized to be on the city's insurance plan. BUT ... BUT ... the city employee who wrote and mailed the checks to the insurance company should have done the same thing, don't ya think?

Someone at City Hall should have told Elliott and Dowd, "Hey, guys, you are elected officials. You don't qualify."

Seems a bit hypocritical for the City to sue Elliott and Dows, when it was someone at The City who made the mistake!
Hypocritical yes but if they don't point the finger then it's pointed at them , their just doing what most theis fools do around here"blame the next guy" sounds like the city needs new employees , including the elected individuals
never ending ring

Leesville, LA

#7 Mar 6, 2013
Well did the city twist their arm to take it when it was offered to them....let's put all the facts out there and not just what the dictator wants the public to know...the insurance was offered to all city councilmen however the others had other forms of insurance....also they did pay premiums just like they were told....I think that is why the city has a human resource person that should know who can and cannot have benefits but it is my understanding that a councilman is not a human resource specialist.... I just love how dictator rose only puts out what he wants the public to know for them to be on his side.....lots more will come out in the end and I think people will see that rose spent a lot of money on attorney on this issue but left out some issues that he is incorrect on and also his famous twisting of the truth to make himself out to be a hero....we shall see ...but as they say. It ain't over till the fat lady sings.....from what I hear she has a story to sing in the song she will sing....hope when the dictator is exposed on wasting the city money on false accusations that he has a stiff drink ready when he sits back in his chair and doesn't have time to talk to the citizens, but don't worry I am sure Courtney will be ready to cover his back and answer for him.....
hadEnuff

Leesville, LA

#8 Mar 6, 2013
sounds like the mayor has got wind of one that that might run against him... I also know of two others that did the same and he is not going after them. whats up bobby go after all or none I know you don't have the balls to go after the other two that did the same thing do you bobby rose.
never ending ring

Leesville, LA

#9 Mar 6, 2013
According to the official records all of the councilmen for the past 9 years approved this insurance issue in the budget every year....are we suggesting that the council did not notice this for 9 years in a row, but it came to light when the dictator came to sit on this throne....and let me guess he took his flashlight and pointed it out but I bet no blame has been laid on the council that voted yes on this for 9 years...and why should the council have to play by the rules when rose does not obey them, I understand he hired the attorney with a contract before he ever got approval from the city council and the wanted them to approve it because he made a booboo...I think he hired him so let him pay for him why should the citizens pay....we can't even get clean water but if rose wants to spend our money its OK...this is why he will be on the throne a very short time...
OICU812

Lake Charles, LA

#10 Mar 6, 2013
From what I understand there are other elected officials that were on the insurance and they are are not being pursued! Remember Rose is the one that asked for the Attorney Generals opinion on this matter, so the Attorney general only got one side to make his opinion. The truth will come out. Rose is as dirty as they come.
ROUNDTUIT

Lake Charles, LA

#11 Mar 7, 2013
So Robert (PRUDENTIBUS) you finaslly post something to Topix and you think you are beating you your chest. You need to rememebr that KARMA has this way of biting you!
PRUDENTIBUS

Leesville, LA

#12 Mar 7, 2013
Incredible. I don't know whether to laugh or puke at the hypocrisy in here. All of you scream for impeachement the minute that Bobby Rose farts wrong yet here you are ready to fogive Dowd and Elliot and blame everyone else (including Rose) for criminal decisions that these two councilmen knowingly made.
Why don't you guys just go ahead and change your names to reflect your official positions as spokepersons for the Dowd/Elliot camp?
They did the wrong thing and they knew it before, during and after they did it.
Nothing can change it.
Nothing can excuse it.
You can't blame it on anyone but them because no one forced them.
Go ahead and try though. It says more about you folks than it ever will about anyone else.
sic semper tyranis

Since: Feb 12

Leesville Louisiana

#13 Mar 7, 2013
You don't get it, do you? Premiums paid on the city's insurance policy are paid by THE CITY, not by the individuals who are on the policy. SOMEONE in a position of authority at City Hall had to approve the payment, write the check, and put it in the mail. Dowd and Elliott didn't write the check, CITY HALL wrote the check. When your employer makes a payment on the insurance policy for his employees, it covers everyone who is enrolled in the company's insurance program. If someone is "on the list" and they shouldn't be, then that says there's an administrative error somewhere. The person whose name is erroneously on the list is not to blame for a beaureucrat's error.
PRUDENTIBUS wrote:
Incredible. I don't know whether to laugh or puke at the hypocrisy in here. All of you scream for impeachement the minute that Bobby Rose farts wrong yet here you are ready to fogive Dowd and Elliot and blame everyone else (including Rose) for criminal decisions that these two councilmen knowingly made.
Why don't you guys just go ahead and change your names to reflect your official positions as spokepersons for the Dowd/Elliot camp?
They did the wrong thing and they knew it before, during and after they did it.
Nothing can change it.
Nothing can excuse it.
You can't blame it on anyone but them because no one forced them.
Go ahead and try though. It says more about you folks than it ever will about anyone else.
sic semper tyranis
PRUDENTIBUS

Leesville, LA

#14 Mar 7, 2013
bembh wrote:
You don't get it, do you? Premiums paid on the city's insurance policy are paid by THE CITY, not by the individuals who are on the policy. SOMEONE in a position of authority at City Hall had to approve the payment, write the check, and put it in the mail. Dowd and Elliott didn't write the check, CITY HALL wrote the check. When your employer makes a payment on the insurance policy for his employees, it covers everyone who is enrolled in the company's insurance program. If someone is "on the list" and they shouldn't be, then that says there's an administrative error somewhere. The person whose name is erroneously on the list is not to blame for a beaureucrat's error.
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Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
If Bobby Rose had done this you would be shouting for criminal prosecution and a recall vote. Yet here you are defending them and throwing some hapless person under the bus for THEIR decisions.
You are a hypocrite and a mouth piece for tthe Dowd/Elliot camp, plain and simple, and now your true colors are on public display, just like your boys.
THEY broke the laws of the city and accepted city benefits on our dime that they weren't authorized for. THEY knew it was wrong and they MADE THE CHOICE to do it anyway and no matter how many innocent people you try to burn in your attempt to cover them, the truth is going to come out.
Your friends in the legal system might be able to save their wallets but the PEOPLE of this city and their districts are going to remember that DOWD AND ELLIOT STOLE FROM THEM.
So go ahead- play this out like its some political vendetta. Blame everyone under the sun and create as many lame excuses as you like.
The evidence WILL get out. The people WILL know.
And these men WILL be held accountable.
sic semper tyranis

Since: Feb 12

Leesville Louisiana

#15 Mar 7, 2013
Throwing a "hapless" person under the bus? Do you even know the meaning of "hapless"? It means unlucky, or unfortunate. If someone at City Hall authorized illegal payments to the insurance company, I'd say that's a lot more than "hapless." Try "incompetent" perhaps. You're saying that it's "unfortunate" that some City Hall employee wrote checks that they had no business writing?

Sheesh.

Just like my boys? I don't have any "boys."

Friends in the legal system? I don't have any friends in the legal system.

Political vendetta? The only person displaying symptoms of a political vendetta is you.
PRUDENTIBUS wrote:
<quoted text>
Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
If Bobby Rose had done this you would be shouting for criminal prosecution and a recall vote. Yet here you are defending them and throwing some hapless person under the bus for THEIR decisions.
You are a hypocrite and a mouth piece for tthe Dowd/Elliot camp, plain and simple, and now your true colors are on public display, just like your boys.
THEY broke the laws of the city and accepted city benefits on our dime that they weren't authorized for. THEY knew it was wrong and they MADE THE CHOICE to do it anyway and no matter how many innocent people you try to burn in your attempt to cover them, the truth is going to come out.
Your friends in the legal system might be able to save their wallets but the PEOPLE of this city and their districts are going to remember that DOWD AND ELLIOT STOLE FROM THEM.
So go ahead- play this out like its some political vendetta. Blame everyone under the sun and create as many lame excuses as you like.
The evidence WILL get out. The people WILL know.
And these men WILL be held accountable.
sic semper tyranis

“Sneaking up on you”

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#16 Mar 7, 2013
So who would be the one person that would have signed the checks at the city ?

I can answer that one it would have been Mrs Pritt she was the city at the time this was done and if she was the one signing all the checks then she and only her would be at fault in doing so.

Then the fault would fall on Dowd and Elliot as they had to know that they were not covered under the city charter.

Hell they have been in office for how many years, and voted on how many spending cost in the city ?

You want to put the blame on someone place it on Mrs. Pritt and Dowd and Elliot as they knew what they were doing and knew they were stealing funds, maybe now the State AG will get involed in this and file charges.

Send all of them to jail !!! as they should !!!
Curious

United States

#17 Mar 7, 2013
@bembh

So how would you characterize the actions of Dowd and Elliot in using the health insurance, to which they were not entitled and paid for by some "incompetent" person at City Hall, for the benefit of themselves and their families? Unfortunate? Incompetent? Clueless victims? Shrewd and calculating?
Sasha

United States

#18 Mar 7, 2013
I wonder if their families were covered on those plans. Doesn't Dowd have a boat load of kids??
intheknow

Lake Charles, LA

#19 Mar 8, 2013
Sahsa- He does not have a boat load of kids only 2 that are at home. I spoke to him and he tells me that his kids were not on it and that the truth will come out as the law suit ges forward.
bouttime

United States

#20 Mar 8, 2013
crazy
allORnone

Olla, LA

#21 Mar 8, 2013
Blame them all...their all grown people and apparently somewhat educated, they knew they were doing wrong. They don't hold elected offices and not know the rules. Good ol' Leesville!! Not so perfect after all!

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