huh

Lufkin, TX

#21 Nov 10, 2012
bembh wrote:
Surely, if this is just a cover story, someone could have come up with something less embarrassing, less scandalous than an extra-marital affair. He could have said he was resigning for health reasons, or to spend more time with his wife, or a thousand other things that would have preserved his dignity and honor.
The truth is, the FBI is investigating the woman who wrote Petraeus's biography for trying to hack his e-mail account and gain access to classified information. Petraeus could see the writing on the wall: if the investigation continued and the FBI started really turning the screws on this woman, she was probably going to tell them about the affair in order to try and save herself. So to head off a REAL cover-up claim, Petraeus did the honorable thing and came clean about the affair before she could implicate him.
Are you for real? He did the honorable thing and came clean about an affair that was about to be discovered? You call THAT honorable? Damage control maybe but definitely NOT honorable. Honorable would have been honoring his marital vows, not fornicating with a woman who was not his wife and then quickly putting his spin on the affair when he knew he was about tonget caught. You have a strange opinion of what is honorable.
bembh

United States

#22 Nov 10, 2012
Louis, these right-wing Repubtards just can't accept the facts. Their little pea-brains have gone into overtime trying to dream up one "scandal and coverup" after another, anything -- ANYTHING -- that they think they can use to attack Obama.

There's absolutely NO EVIDENCE that Petraeus has done anything except tell the truth. He had an affair, the FBI was about to uncover it, so he decided he'd better talk instead of having it announced by the FBI. Then he resigned. End of story.
havemercy wrote:
<quoted text>"bembh", how can these people be so messed up? I see why the republicans go for the uneducated. They know they can tell them anything and they will believe it.
bembh

United States

#23 Nov 10, 2012
I've made my stand very clear. Apparently, reading comprehension is not your strong suit. There are adult remedial reading classes available.
huh wrote:
<quoted text>
So are you saying he is honorable or dishonorable? Maybe an honorable man who did an dishonorable thing? Which, by the way is an oxymoron.
bembh

United States

#24 Nov 10, 2012
Still don't read too well, do you? I never said that his having an affair was honorable; I said that his coming clean about it was more honorable than denying it (lying is never honorable).
huh wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you for real? He did the honorable thing and came clean about an affair that was about to be discovered? You call THAT honorable? Damage control maybe but definitely NOT honorable. Honorable would have been honoring his marital vows, not fornicating with a woman who was not his wife and then quickly putting his spin on the affair when he knew he was about tonget caught. You have a strange opinion of what is honorable.
huh

Lufkin, TX

#25 Nov 10, 2012
bembh wrote:
Still don't read too well, do you? I never said that his having an affair was honorable; I said that his coming clean about it was more honorable than denying it (lying is never honorable).<quoted text>
Oh I read well enough, you seem to have trouble comprehending what you wrote. You wrote he did the honorable thing by coming clean about the affair. There is nothing honorable about fessing up to something when you know you are about to be caught at it. There is no honor in his admitting his treachery at this point. Lying, when the truth was about to be outed would be foolish and I never said he was a fool. However it should be noted that he didn't show much integrety in his personal life.
bembh

Westlake, LA

#26 Nov 10, 2012
I disagree. It seems to be YOU who can't comprehend what I wrote.

I also disagree with your statement, "There is nothing honorable about fessing up to something..." We all make mistakes. When we are confronted (or are about to be confronted), we have two choices: we either admit our mistakes, or we lie about them. Admitting a mistake is far more honorable than lying about it.

Comprehend?
huh wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh I read well enough, you seem to have trouble comprehending what you wrote. You wrote he did the honorable thing by coming clean about the affair. There is nothing honorable about fessing up to something when you know you are about to be caught at it. There is no honor in his admitting his treachery at this point. Lying, when the truth was about to be outed would be foolish and I never said he was a fool. However it should be noted that he didn't show much integrety in his personal life.
huh

Lufkin, TX

#27 Nov 10, 2012
bembh wrote:
I disagree. It seems to be YOU who can't comprehend what I wrote.
I also disagree with your statement, "There is nothing honorable about fessing up to something..." We all make mistakes. When we are confronted (or are about to be confronted), we have two choices: we either admit our mistakes, or we lie about them. Admitting a mistake is far more honorable than lying about it.
Comprehend?
<quoted text>
I respectfully disagree, when one is confronted we do have two choices, lie or admit. When faced with irrefutable proof the fool lies and makes a bigger fool of himself. Yet there is no honor in confessing with your back against the wall. I would concede some honor if there was an attack of conscience and a subsequent confession. That is not the case here.
I am perfectly capable of comprehending all that you have written here and it appears that you are trying to deflect what I wrote by claiming a that I somehow assert that you wrote that an affair was honorable. No where did I make any assertion to that claim. I don't believe anyone in their right mind would make such a claim.
havemercy

Leesville, LA

#28 Nov 10, 2012
mr rogers wrote:
what the hell are you talking about havemercy? i have met the general and serval others you dumb dbag. he was col of 1st/504th. something you know nothing about. i normally dont respond to you because its pointless. maybe bembh can explain the northern europe concept to you. if you understood what is going on you would see~ our country to trying to mock socialist ideals from europe. which are not all bad but what i said and say again " the taxes in norway, sweeden and other places have such great benefits as free healthcare and such, have high high taxes. it seems you know nothing. as for the general and CIA, you know good and well our country does things for the good of democracy that we dont always know about~sometimes good sometimes bad. coverups and lying takes place in america. CIA is an organization based on secrets, coverups and yes sometimes lying for the good of the country or yes the president. lying to protect your country or president is expected sometimes whether good or bad. i know people who are cia however they tell people they are not. but i have known them for 30yrs~ they work everyday lies such as business men, artist, postmen, they dont walk around posting "cia operative" infact many guys in blackwater were cia but under blackwater. if you asked them where or who they work for they would say blackwater not cia. the general was set up no doubt and taking the fall. just like the other general who was fired over lybia. bembh i say to you because you obviously have some sense~ research things i have stated and let me know what you find. lybia is a coverup and more then one leader has taken the fall. have mercy i will not waste my time on you~ gibber all you want. affairs happen all the time not the reason he stepped down. if you think cia do not watch each other your crazy, heck they will tell you who you can have relations to, if they feel someone in your life is a threat to job you dont get in to cia or you are told to cut contact with them. so to say he is stepping down or fired over affair is simply a lie and illogical. thats how it is.
This is ridiculous. You should be ashame of yourself. Read that mess you wrote. Sound like a lie even to you, don't it?
havemercy

Leesville, LA

#29 Nov 10, 2012
Don't you ignoramuses know that other republicans are reading this stuff and feel shame. Mitt Romney had to lose. Hell, he seems to have had the dumbest supports in the world.
havemercy

Leesville, LA

#30 Nov 10, 2012
bembh wrote:
Louis, these right-wing Repubtards just can't accept the facts. Their little pea-brains have gone into overtime trying to dream up one "scandal and coverup" after another, anything -- ANYTHING -- that they think they can use to attack Obama.
There's absolutely NO EVIDENCE that Petraeus has done anything except tell the truth. He had an affair, the FBI was about to uncover it, so he decided he'd better talk instead of having it announced by the FBI. Then he resigned. End of story.
<quoted text>
Most of these people are old army vets. Disable Vets. TBI, Tramatic Brain Injury. They're not responsible for what they say.
havemercy

Leesville, LA

#31 Nov 10, 2012
The General served his country well. What he did in his personal life is something he and his wife will have to work out. He admitted his sin, forgiveness is in order, and move on to something else.
Jamesrosepine

Leesville, LA

#32 Nov 10, 2012
havemercy wrote:
The General served his country well. What he did in his personal life is something he and his wife will have to work out. He admitted his sin, forgiveness is in order, and move on to something else.
I strongly agree. Unlike President BJ Clinton,the General admitted his wrongdoing like a man.
Charlie Foxtrot

United States

#33 Nov 10, 2012
bembh wrote:
Louis, these right-wing Repubtards just can't accept the facts. Their little pea-brains have gone into overtime trying to dream up one "scandal and coverup" after another, anything -- ANYTHING -- that they think they can use to attack Obama.
There's absolutely NO EVIDENCE that Petraeus has done anything except tell the truth. He had an affair, the FBI was about to uncover it, so he decided he'd better talk instead of having it announced by the FBI. Then he resigned. End of story.
<quoted text>
How about the scandal and coverup of Barrack Obama getting a bunch of votes illegally like in west palm beach FL?
bembh

Westlake, LA

#34 Nov 10, 2012
Can you provide some documentation or something? I don't know what you're talking about. I googled "west palm beach voting scandal" and the only thing that came up was about some Republican from Virginia tossing some voter registration forms. From what I can find on the internet, the only voting irregularities in West Palm Beach are tied to the GOP, not to Obama. Can you tell me where I can find more on this supposed scandal? Or is it something you just made up off the top of your head?
Charlie Foxtrot wrote:
<quoted text>How about the scandal and coverup of Barrack Obama getting a bunch of votes illegally like in west palm beach FL?
havemercy

Leesville, LA

#35 Nov 10, 2012
Jamesrosepine wrote:
<quoted text> I strongly agree. Unlike President BJ Clinton,the General admitted his wrongdoing like a man.
Yeah he did. Inspite of the horrible predicament he found himself in, he honored the Stars. No excuses. Remorsely Admitted.
havemercy

Leesville, LA

#36 Nov 10, 2012
Charlie Foxtrot wrote:
<quoted text>How about the scandal and coverup of Barrack Obama getting a bunch of votes illegally like in west palm beach FL?
Where did you get this info? I haven't heard this one. New to me.
havemercy

Leesville, LA

#37 Nov 10, 2012
bembh wrote:
Can you provide some documentation or something? I don't know what you're talking about. I googled "west palm beach voting scandal" and the only thing that came up was about some Republican from Virginia tossing some voter registration forms. From what I can find on the internet, the only voting irregularities in West Palm Beach are tied to the GOP, not to Obama. Can you tell me where I can find more on this supposed scandal? Or is it something you just made up off the top of your head?<quoted text>
Notice the name, foxtrot. That stuff came out of a fox hole and he went to trotting. LOL
bembh

Westlake, LA

#38 Nov 10, 2012
If it really happened, I'd be happy to discuss it with him. But I can't find any evidence that it actually happened.

Not that it would make a difference in the election. Obama had waaay more than enough votes before Florida ever finished counting (which was just today, by the way).
havemercy wrote:
<quoted text>Notice the name, foxtrot. That stuff came out of a fox hole and he went to trotting. LOL
ilrfpiy

Bradenton, FL

#39 Nov 10, 2012
Just another betreaus buck toothed overpaid grandiose goober. On and on it goes.
mary sunshine2

Leesville, LA

#40 Nov 11, 2012
Havemercy,
Having met General Patraeus (I touched a magazine he once held in Oslo Norway) I feel I have more knowledge than most on this incredibly honest man. So honest, that he admitted his affair and resigned.

The new HEAD of the Republican party is MR. BUBBLES.

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