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Xtreme Fitness Fan

United States

#102 Nov 2, 2008
Jeckle and Hyde wrote:
You sound like the "other woman"...you are clueless to Mr. Smith's background. Yeah, I am one of those over 120 creditors he owes money to. I got a bankruptcy letter a few weeks ago and much to my surprise he owes money to a lot of people. He should be so lucky to have just American Express and Mastercard go after him, but check out the bankruptcy forms, maybe you should ask his ex-accountants, ex-layers, Summit Lawn, ex-Xtreme manager and the list goes on and on. You should also ask Smith about his record of 1992 (I bet he can't answer that question). Last I heard his divorce was due to FRAUD committed by him. HIs ex-wife has too much class for him. If you ask the right people about Smith I am sure they will tell you everything negative about him (check out public records). He should just pay the people he owes, including me. But I know I'll never see the money because the IRS tax leins will have to be paid first. So much for your mis-information (give yourself time to find out about "Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde"). He is no price he tought he was the "Donald Trump" of Missouri, but actually it is a classic example of a white collar act that Smith commits (it's more than a bad business practice). I don't see how he can start a new business in Blue Springs (His reputation is already known in the business world.<quoted text>
Ok, so you said to ask the "right people" about Mr. Smith? Who would that be? His ex-wife or his ex mother in law(who this sounds like)? If he is such a loser in your eyes, than why waste so much time on him, esp. on this board? It sounds to me like a very bitter person rather than just someone that he owes money to. Hmmm...wonder who that could be. Apparently you don't know very much about Mr. Smith or perhaps your informant is mislead. So he owes people money...big deal. Are you perfect, because I thought they crucified the only perfect person. And he will judge bobby, not you!! It's funny because two of the people that you mentioned in your "list" of people that Mr. Smith owes are still currently friends with him. Better research a little harder. Do you have a job, or is Bobby smith your job? That's kind of sad, I am sure he would be flattered tho. And as for Blue Springs, do your homework. Bobby Smith might have a bad reputation with people, that's a given when you close down a business, but he is not forgotten. You can do all you want to try to destroy a man that probably doesn't even know this website exists(that's how little he cares), but Bobby Smith will still be successful, respected and most of all...HAPPY!!! Good luck in your venture. How sad your life must be!!
Friend of the enemy

United States

#103 Nov 2, 2008
X-Xtreme Fan wrote:
If you had a lawyer to represent you then you would have access to FACTS about Smith. Obviously, you must be a person living with Smith and paying some of his bills. I am one of the many creditors that Smith "bilked" money and never had any intention of paying. Smith is great in "posing" as a credible citizen of Lee's Summit, but if your lawyer checks his background, it is totally amazing the things he has committed to further himself in the "Lifestyle of the Rich and Famous". My lawyer found out that a couple of his lawyers dropped him like a hot potato (who wants to represent a con!). <quoted text>
I am a long time friend of Bobby Smith's. I have been reading this forum and find it amazing that everyone is so obsessed with this man. Does everyone get this persecuted for all the mistakes that they have made. We are all human, it is our nature to make mistakes. Some of you are so detailed about your discoveries that it is humorous. Do you people have lives? For god's sake, he lives in Lee's Summit, go knock on his door. He is a descent man, I know! And here is a FACT guys...xtreme turned to golds in may, right? That is 6 months ago, get over it. Find a gym, continue your passion for working out and let go of the anger. And just for everyone's record...I TOO lost my paid in full membership so should I hate him as well? Would finding out about his past "criminal" or "non-criminal" actions get my money back? No!! I will continue my friendship with him and only hope to train with him again. I also heard about Blue Springs and can't wait to be involved with anything he is. He is a man that built his dream and loves nice things. You can't blame him for that. For all of us out there that know the REAL Bobby Smith, we know the facts to it all. We know about his unloving marriage, his wonderful daughter, his passion for bodybuilding and cars and YES...his mistakes. I hear he is happier than ever, so something must be going right. I will pray for you all that you will be able to let go of the anger that has become an obsession. Thank you all for your time, I will not pull this deceiving site up again! This will be my one and only posting.
anonymous

United States

#104 Nov 2, 2008
Jeckle and Hyde wrote:
You sound like the "other woman"...you are clueless to Mr. Smith's background. Yeah, I am one of those over 120 creditors he owes money to. I got a bankruptcy letter a few weeks ago and much to my surprise he owes money to a lot of people. He should be so lucky to have just American Express and Mastercard go after him, but check out the bankruptcy forms, maybe you should ask his ex-accountants, ex-layers, Summit Lawn, ex-Xtreme manager and the list goes on and on. You should also ask Smith about his record of 1992 (I bet he can't answer that question). Last I heard his divorce was due to FRAUD committed by him. HIs ex-wife has too much class for him. If you ask the right people about Smith I am sure they will tell you everything negative about him (check out public records). He should just pay the people he owes, including me. But I know I'll never see the money because the IRS tax leins will have to be paid first. So much for your mis-information (give yourself time to find out about "Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde"). He is no price he tought he was the "Donald Trump" of Missouri, but actually it is a classic example of a white collar act that Smith commits (it's more than a bad business practice). I don't see how he can start a new business in Blue Springs (His reputation is already known in the business world.<quoted text>
Hey this good, Dr jeckle and mr. hyde huh? Come on, everyone knows who this is. First off, his ex never had any friends except the ones that were married to HIS friends. And they didn't even like her. So noone would write in saying she had "class". No one knew her, she never spoke. As a matter of fact, everyone at the gym thought she was a stuck up bitch that we all would joke about having the "short girl syndrome"!! Bobby is divorced from her and engaged, she is remarried. So there is no "other" woman when you are divorced dumbass!! Quit changing your identity on here and use your real name...you know too many details that give you away. From us bodybuilders, keep on Big Dog and I will be looking for info on the blue springs situation. Cant wait!!
Chris

Lees Summit, MO

#105 Nov 3, 2008
Hey, dude, am watching this email go back and forth. Where is the new Blue Springs Fitness? How come Bobby is not building in Lee's Summit?
Is he building a new one? I sure would like to know.
Lees Summit

Olathe, KS

#106 Nov 3, 2008
Friend of the enemy wrote:
<quoted text>I am a long time friend of Bobby Smith's. I have been reading this forum and find it amazing that everyone is so obsessed with this man. Does everyone get this persecuted for all the mistakes that they have made. We are all human, it is our nature to make mistakes. Some of you are so detailed about your discoveries that it is humorous. Do you people have lives? For god's sake, he lives in Lee's Summit, go knock on his door. He is a descent man, I know! And here is a FACT guys...xtreme turned to golds in may, right? That is 6 months ago, get over it. Find a gym, continue your passion for working out and let go of the anger. And just for everyone's record...I TOO lost my paid in full membership so should I hate him as well? Would finding out about his past "criminal" or "non-criminal" actions get my money back? No!! I will continue my friendship with him and only hope to train with him again. I also heard about Blue Springs and can't wait to be involved with anything he is. He is a man that built his dream and loves nice things. You can't blame him for that. For all of us out there that know the REAL Bobby Smith, we know the facts to it all. We know about his unloving marriage, his wonderful daughter, his passion for bodybuilding and cars and YES...his mistakes. I hear he is happier than ever, so something must be going right. I will pray for you all that you will be able to let go of the anger that has become an obsession. Thank you all for your time, I will not pull this deceiving site up again! This will be my one and only posting.
yke
Phil Lees Summit

United States

#107 Nov 3, 2008
Friend of the enemy wrote:
<quoted text>I am a long time friend of Bobby Smith's. I have been reading this forum and find it amazing that everyone is so obsessed with this man. Does everyone get this persecuted for all the mistakes that they have made. We are all human, it is our nature to make mistakes. Some of you are so detailed about your discoveries that it is humorous. Do you people have lives? For god's sake, he lives in Lee's Summit, go knock on his door. He is a descent man, I know! And here is a FACT guys...xtreme turned to golds in may, right? That is 6 months ago, get over it. Find a gym, continue your passion for working out and let go of the anger. And just for everyone's record...I TOO lost my paid in full membership so should I hate him as well? Would finding out about his past "criminal" or "non-criminal" actions get my money back? No!! I will continue my friendship with him and only hope to train with him again. I also heard about Blue Springs and can't wait to be involved with anything he is. He is a man that built his dream and loves nice things. You can't blame him for that. For all of us out there that know the REAL Bobby Smith, we know the facts to it all. We know about his unloving marriage, his wonderful daughter, his passion for bodybuilding and cars and YES...his mistakes. I hear he is happier than ever, so something must be going right. I will pray for you all that you will be able to let go of the anger that has become an obsession. Thank you all for your time, I will not pull this deceiving site up again! This will be my one and only posting.
This sounds like Don Long. If so, are you and him still doing business. I heard you guys are hooking up for the Blue Springs thing. I heard its going to be state of the art. If anyone knows anything abuot this update us please
brg

United States

#108 Nov 4, 2008
Phil Lees Summit wrote:
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This sounds like Don Long. If so, are you and him still doing business. I heard you guys are hooking up for the Blue Springs thing. I heard its going to be state of the art. If anyone knows anything abuot this update us please
hey
Jeremy

United States

#109 Nov 4, 2008
Phil Lees Summit wrote:
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This sounds like Don Long. If so, are you and him still doing business. I heard you guys are hooking up for the Blue Springs thing. I heard its going to be state of the art. If anyone knows anything abuot this update us please
Hey guys Don Long moved to Florida with his new wife. I do know that him and smith will be doing business together but not local. The Blue Springs thing hasn't started yet but should be next year sometime. My girlfriend is friends with his girlfrend, I guess it's her family behind it all. Her step dad is a judge and her dad a cop, have alot of pull in the city i guess. Dont know details, but sounds pretty amazing. I don't realy know smith real good but this forum sounds like he was really cool at one time but has got some enemies. I say everyone should move on and let the guy be successful again. He seems pretty cool.
ANONYMOUS

Kansas City, MO

#110 Dec 15, 2008
Indian Girl wrote:
you guys really dont see it - I worked for both company for years - Bobby did me better than Wade and Steve Cole ever did. Steve stole my commission from me for my first client I ever had. He signed the contract so he got the money for my client that I trained. I will never forgive him for that ever. Wade is just as bad . You guys never were in on the inside like I was for a long time. I saw it all and I would work for Bobby again in a heart beat. He never stole any commissions from me in the past. Golds stole from me many times and you indiots need to be really watching your back and what is going on because you are being deceived by Golds and they will steal from you!!!
you're a friggin' "indiot" .. get a life and go screw this bobby guy you're so in love with.
Gym Rat

United States

#111 Dec 26, 2008
ANONYMOUS wrote:
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you're a friggin' "indiot" .. get a life and go screw this bobby guy you're so in love with.
Sounds like you are the one that needs to get a life...still harboring old issues huh? Man, it must suck to be SO miserable!
ChiefBigBalls

Blue Springs, MO

#112 Feb 2, 2009
Indian Girl wrote:
workout guy - your the idiot for paying in full for anything . you never pay in full for nothing no matter the deal. And no he didn't know he was going under things were looking positive and I don't know where you are getting your information but the employees have been paid. your being deceived . Bobby will rise again and Golds will lose once again just like in Independence.
You must be the girl he was screwing at work which caused him to lose his family... And yes, nearly all of his trainers had bounced payroll checks for at least 3 pay periods!!! Now shut up and quit beating your little war drum, indian girl.

PS... If you want to work for Bobby so bad, he is opening his "total body fitness" over at Summit fitness... ALSO A HEADS UP FOR THOSE LOOKING FOR HIM ;)
Indian Girl Fan

United States

#113 Feb 6, 2009
ChiefBigBalls wrote:
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You must be the girl he was screwing at work which caused him to lose his family... And yes, nearly all of his trainers had bounced payroll checks for at least 3 pay periods!!! Now shut up and quit beating your little war drum, indian girl.
PS... If you want to work for Bobby so bad, he is opening his "total body fitness" over at Summit fitness... ALSO A HEADS UP FOR THOSE LOOKING FOR HIM ;)
Chief Big Balls huh?? Must not be very big since you can't even mention your name! There you are..just surfing the web for any and all information on the man you apparently are obsessed with. I am training with Bobby at Summit, which by the way is NOT the only place Total Body is, and it is a pleasure to have one of the best training me. Financial problems happen to the best of us, that doesn't take away from the fact that when it comes to Bodybuilding and nutrition you can't find better. Bobby did NOT lose his daughter, he divorced his wife. Not sure what you meant by "lost his whole family". Look around pal, no one gives a shit anymore. I'm sure there are a few ex-trainers out there still whining about him but geez get over it! He is not hiding...he works and resides in Lee's Summit. And it's not secret that total body is working in several locations. It will also soon be in the brand new gym in Blue Springs, which is also no secret!! You sound like one of the ex-trainers I'm referring to that obviously is not very successful. Thought for the day...Worry about your own damn self and you might find light at the end of your worthless tunnel! Go Indian Girl!!!!
Anonymous

Tucson, AZ

#114 Feb 6, 2009
If one is wise one will follow the history ("his"tory) it always repeats itself. Techniques for dealing with false people = get away from them, full stop!
...... Truly healthy people seek truly healthy environments!
Indian Girl Fan

United States

#115 Feb 6, 2009
Sounds like "your" story, not "his"tory! Word to the "wise"...practice what you preach. Doesn't appear that you are practicing your own "techniques" oh wise one. How can you get away from them, full stop if you are monopolizing your time on them? I have an idea...seek a truly healthy environment oh wise one...and join us "healthy people"! Let those who want to enjoy him do so. It's a free country, you don't have to like him!!!!
rancjer 3339

Pleasant Grove, UT

#116 Feb 11, 2009
Indian Girl wrote:
Obviously you have some issues yourself - maybe your stuck up yourself. I was there for many years and never once saw him to be stuck up once to any members. You didn't take the time to get to know him like many people did. He is a very caring person.
You shouldn't put the blame on anyone unless you have had experience yourself of owning a business - obviously you haven't had it.
As for PIF for a membership - if your smart enough (which sounds to be like your not) you never PIF for anything no matter how good the deal is because you never know about any business if it is going to be here tomorrow.
Gold's won't last in this town with the reputation of the owner and his GM in charge.
My advice to you is not to join Gold's gym if you now what is best for you.
Whoa Indiana Girl,

I don't know what is in the water you are drinking, but you are quite the psycho, aren't you? Besides, you can't be that educated if you can't even spell know correctly. Good luck!
Anonymous

Tucson, AZ

#117 Feb 12, 2009
Indian Girl Fan wrote:
Sounds like "your" story, not "his"tory! Word to the "wise"...practice what you preach. Doesn't appear that you are practicing your own "techniques" oh wise one. How can you get away from them, full stop if you are monopolizing your time on them? I have an idea...seek a truly healthy environment oh wise one...and join us "healthy people"! Let those who want to enjoy him do so. It's a free country, you don't have to like him!!!!
Lock & Load Indian Girl but my comments were not intended for you. You are right, it is a free country - your choice is clear and it's obvious that his story is your story! My comments were intended for those who worked for him (he didn't teach all those classes or personal train all those clients at Xtreme by himself). There are those who are trying to make sense of what happened when they are standing there with worthless paychecks and gave their talents and skills to deserving clients (who also are now empty-handed). The message to them is... there is life after this experience - your talents and skills are valuable. Your clients are valuable. You have the power to rewrite this story by finding/creating healthy workout environments where your skills and clients will be rewarded!
When one's actions/words burn bridges.... one better be an amazing swimmer !
Indian Girl Fan

Saint Johns, MI

#118 Feb 12, 2009
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
Lock & Load Indian Girl but my comments were not intended for you. You are right, it is a free country - your choice is clear and it's obvious that his story is your story! My comments were intended for those who worked for him (he didn't teach all those classes or personal train all those clients at Xtreme by himself). There are those who are trying to make sense of what happened when they are standing there with worthless paychecks and gave their talents and skills to deserving clients (who also are now empty-handed). The message to them is... there is life after this experience - your talents and skills are valuable. Your clients are valuable. You have the power to rewrite this story by finding/creating healthy workout environments where your skills and clients will be rewarded!
When one's actions/words burn bridges.... one better be an amazing swimmer !
Oh for god's sake...you write as if this was a life damaging situation!!! This was a man whose business went down from mistakes that people all ovver the world make. Get a freakin life...this was not a house fire where someone lost everything!! Good god, the man lives in Lee's Summit...go to his house and demand your damn money!! HE created that place and made it what it was with the HELP of others. So move on to your "healthy" environment and spend your energy on something meaningful. Sounds like you are the only one trying to make sense of it...
Again...get a life!!!
anonymous

United States

#119 Feb 13, 2009
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
Lock & Load Indian Girl but my comments were not intended for you. You are right, it is a free country - your choice is clear and it's obvious that his story is your story! My comments were intended for those who worked for him (he didn't teach all those classes or personal train all those clients at Xtreme by himself). There are those who are trying to make sense of what happened when they are standing there with worthless paychecks and gave their talents and skills to deserving clients (who also are now empty-handed). The message to them is... there is life after this experience - your talents and skills are valuable. Your clients are valuable. You have the power to rewrite this story by finding/creating healthy workout environments where your skills and clients will be rewarded!
When one's actions/words burn bridges.... one better be an amazing swimmer !
I have to agree with indian fan. You make it seem like there are these people that are sitting in their homes in deep depression over losing a job as a personal trainer for extreme fitness. Didn't that place close a year ago?? Are they still holding those checks trying to figure things out? I mean come on...go to another gym and get a job there. These conversations are really a joke. You sound like a shrink counseling someone. Probably yourself! I'm not trying to be mean but holy crap people...businesses go under all the time and usually are not a planned malicious thing. There is alot involved im sure. I've never known one subject to be such a big deal! I only personally met him once but sounds like he was one important guy! come on guys, get real!
ladygina81

Kansas City, MO

#120 Apr 2, 2009
It's appauling to me that so many people write such horrible things about this man. It's pathetic. So the man's business went belly up. That's no reason to attach his character. Bobby is MY trainer and he is WONDERFUL. He is truly a cut above the norm, and the people who insist on bashing this poor man are missing out on an amazing trainer. He is also genuinely caring and is nothing like these descriptions I have read about him. He even told me he is not the way he used to be, and I will ALWAYS defend Bobby when people say anything bad about him.
anonymous

Yatesville, GA

#121 Apr 6, 2009
Lady Gina: He may be an excellent trainer, but the fact remains that he stiffed several employees out of their hard earned pay and he cost numerous members money by virtue of their pre-paid memberships not being given full credit by Gold's. A person of outstanding character makes right his or her debts. There are few of us out here that could afford to work without pay. I'm glad your training experience is going well. You may be more sympathetic to some of the posters here, however, if one of them had been your trainer at the time and was not paid for providing you a service.

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