Ex Lee FireFighter

Syracuse, NY

#1 Sep 10, 2009
I hate to bring up old news but I thought some people should know what has happened since the Commissioners who cared have been voted out.
Why is it only Baker's who run finances?
Mike Treasurer
Bill Bingo
Ray Games of Chance
All money controlled by Bakers
Why is it only Bakers and their puppies are on committees?
Truck Committee Approved new truck. No vote from members. They will say the members approved it last year. They approved looking into buying. Never approved the actual purchase.
Why is it Baker's dont have to work actual Bingo. They get the easy jobs. Go and see when the poor guys are short handed. Think Ray or any of them will help the poor saps trying to sell 2 or 3 cards at a time cause they are short staffed. NOPE
Why is it Ray is on committees and responds to help out on calls. Isn't he on disability? But you wont see his name checked on a call sheet.
Why is it a Veteran was voted out of a officer position and a 2 year rookie with little experience is now a officer? Cause he spoke out
Why is it a member was questioned for turning a rookie Baker away from a call? Wasn't he doing his job?
Why is it the Chief wouldn't back this same person when he questioned why fire fighters (Bakers and crew) were fighting fires either improperly geared up or with no gear at all? He was told "Hey at least we saved the house."
Isn't it safety first.(Read the minutes from the last meeting)
If this person could only hear what they say about him now maybe he would be smart enough to get out also.
Why does Mike get to run a RED Light? Isn't that for Chiefs and assistants only? Even the Capt of fire police has to use a blue light.
Why is it you can be kicked out for missing Bingo's but not for making calls or meetings, or even drill?(Do they even drill anymore)
Now this is all second hand information but comes from a friend who has been with the Dept for over 10 years and is feed up. He just doesn't want to be shunned like the rest of the people who speak their minds.
This is election year people. It is time you demand the Town return this into a Fire Department and not a social club were only people who agree with the Baker's are allowed to play.
Unit35

United States

#2 Sep 10, 2009
Just to clarify somethings that I can set straight

I was asked why I turned her around so he could explain to her what is was. He was not upset

I voiced a concern of the fire cituation which did not require backing from the chief. If I needed backing I am sure he would have given it. After explaining the inital arrival of the dept since I was a few minutes behind and the reason the firefighter entered was to attempt a extingushment with fire extingushers since it was not a HAZARD at that time to do so.

So whereever you got your information. I would ask other sources befor commenting.
Befor you post about a third party, ask the third party beofr posting. I would have told you instead of you trying to drag up old news.

Eric M
smoke eatter

Syracuse, NY

#3 Sep 11, 2009
To Ex Lee FireFighter
let me ask you this, have you been to a bingo lately? all the bakers work "real jobs there and help out" and if anybody in that dept wanted to be chairman of bingo, games of chances, they can step up and voice it.
"Why is it a Veteran was voted out of a officer position and a 2 year rookie with little experience is now a officer? Cause he spoke out" The veteran is question ran his mouth bout more
than bakers and everybody else. and according to lcfd bylaws a officer must have 3 yrs experience
and certain classes which he has, go check on that..
"Why is it you can be kicked out for missing Bingo's but not for making calls or meetings, or even drill?(Do they even drill anymore" yes lcfd drills and NOBODY has been kicked out for missing that stuff in awhile, if that was the case they would not have any member...
"Now this is all second hand information but comes from a friend who has been with the Dept for over 10 years and is feed up. He just doesn't want to be shunned like the rest of the people who speak their minds." Tell that rat to get his facts straight and if he has problems with people to speak his mind and not run to you and have you post it...
stop acting like a child...stop gossiping and telling un true rumors...without the bakers that dept would be nothing...NOTHING AT ALL...i want to see half the guys even try to put in as much effort in the dept as the bakers...i dont think they would enjoy giving up that much time
Fed up

Tully, NY

#4 Sep 12, 2009
Hey ex Lee Firefighter..... Well it seems to me that you have now thrown your "friend" under the bus... It is very clear who was running their mouth outside of the meeting as you can count on one hand the members at the meeting that have been in the department for over 10 yrs... And let the truth be known that fireman has done nothing over the years but cause problems, he gets pissed and quits like a baby...he's a worthless piece of shit who is just jealous of the Baker's... Maybe if he stopped worrying so much about stupid shit he would be able to get his facts straight... And now that the truth is known he shouldn't be a problem much longer since everything said in a meeting is to stay in a meeting, or it's grounds for removal from the department.... And maybe he'll take the rest of his worthless family with him... As far as the officer that got voted out of office, well if he would have just went along with the department wishes he would now be an assistant chief.. but since he wasn't happy with that and felt the need to run against a Baker he is now nothing... Yes he's a good firefighter, but he let his emotions get in the way.... As far as the Baker's running everything... Noone wanted to step up to be the treasurer.... Or run Bingo... or do Bell jar for that matter.. so yes the Bakers do those jobs... How many other non Bakers do you see at Bingo on Saturdays??? There's been PLENTY of times that Ray has stepped in to help sell tickets at Bingo... So quit your belly aching... If your friend doesn't like the way things are run.. Tell him not to let the door hit him in the ass on the way out...
scba_watersupply 107

West Monroe, NY

#5 Sep 13, 2009
Thank you fed up and smoke eater, you said a lot of the things that I have been wanting to say. In LCFD it is all adults, so why don't the select few grow up and start acting thier ages and not thier shoe sizes. Don't run to site such as this and start running your mouth, if you have a problem with that bakers or anybody else in the department, address it with them. They are adults and can handle it. If anybody wanted those jobs they should have stepped up and said something. nobody did that is how that Bakers have those spots. And as the vetern in question that was voted out of an line officer position, yes he is a great firefigher but he lets his emotions get the best of him, which pissed a lot of people off. just end the bullshit, its not worth it. Firefighters are there to save the community not to be stabbing each other in the back.
Ex Lee FireFighter

Syracuse, NY

#6 Sep 15, 2009
Once again my wife was at bingo and again watched as the poor saps had to pull one person from the kitchen to help sell tickets and still they were short handed. Kudos to the guy that had to sell both hardcards and specials that night and to the guy who pulled both kitchen and floor duty.

Oh my point is where was Ray, sitting at the end of tables talking and chatting,
GET OFF YOUR BUTT and help out wont you. What makes you more important.
So SmokeEater I never knew a Real Job and helping out was sitting on your ass watching everyone else. And Where is Billy, He doesn't even show up anymore but has a civilian sell 50/50 tickets.
Fed up

Tully, NY

#7 Sep 16, 2009
Ex Lee FireFighter wrote:
Once again my wife was at bingo and again watched as the poor saps had to pull one person from the kitchen to help sell tickets and still they were short handed. Kudos to the guy that had to sell both hardcards and specials that night and to the guy who pulled both kitchen and floor duty.
Oh my point is where was Ray, sitting at the end of tables talking and chatting,
GET OFF YOUR BUTT and help out wont you. What makes you more important.
So SmokeEater I never knew a Real Job and helping out was sitting on your ass watching everyone else. And Where is Billy, He doesn't even show up anymore but has a civilian sell 50/50 tickets.
Well Ex Lee Firefighter.. Tell your "wife" if she's going to run her mouth, she should get the facts straight.. First of all Ray was in charge of BINGO that night, and if you knew the state laws you would know that the person in charge is not allowed to sell tickets on the floor.. And again if the people that were scheduled to work BINGO would show up on time or at all for that matter then the floor crew wouldn't be short handed.. But let me guess that must be a "Baker's" fault too... And so Billy wasn't at Bingo on a Saturday night, and one of the reliable people at Bingo stepped up and helped out by selling 50/50's. Well i'm sure it wasn't your trouble making peice of shit wife that was selling tickets so what's the problem... Does she have nothing better to do then go to Bingo on a Saturday night and report back to your worthless ass.. Is your life really that boring that you thrive on making wave's in the fire department. Why don't you go live with Red Williams and maybe you too could make eachother misarable... It must suck to have such a boring life that you have nothing better to do... Go get a life...
Common Sense

United States

#8 Nov 16, 2009
Fed up wrote:
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Well Ex Lee Firefighter.. Tell your "wife" if she's going to run her mouth, she should get the facts straight.. First of all Ray was in charge of BINGO that night, and if you knew the state laws you would know that the person in charge is not allowed to sell tickets on the floor.. And again if the people that were scheduled to work BINGO would show up on time or at all for that matter then the floor crew wouldn't be short handed.. But let me guess that must be a "Baker's" fault too... And so Billy wasn't at Bingo on a Saturday night, and one of the reliable people at Bingo stepped up and helped out by selling 50/50's. Well i'm sure it wasn't your trouble making peice of shit wife that was selling tickets so what's the problem... Does she have nothing better to do then go to Bingo on a Saturday night and report back to your worthless ass.. Is your life really that boring that you thrive on making wave's in the fire department. Why don't you go live with Red Williams and maybe you too could make eachother misarable... It must suck to have such a boring life that you have nothing better to do... Go get a life...
Quoting from state law is a lame excuse for not helping your fellow firemen. I was under the impression that there was a lot of camaraderie within department. More specifically if someone is sitting around watching someone struggle with something, common courtesy usually says help them... not Continue my conversation.

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