Bill

Lebanon, VA

#41 Jul 29, 2010
Where do all of you think that the "Board of Supervisors" excluding Bowerbank would be without "Alice" filling out the wrong paperwork concerning their personal assets and their financial affairs. Is this the same Board of Supervisors that we have handling our County's financial sheets??
Bill

Lebanon, VA

#42 Jul 29, 2010
Give it up wrote:
Poor old Stewart, Green and Pruner, the people chose and it was the wise decision.
Now give it up. Nobody cares how many degrees you lawyers have because we do not trust any of you. Did you hear that? WE DO NOT CARE HOW MANY DEGREES YOU PEOPLE HAVE!!! What we do care about, you DO NOT HAVE!!!
Get your shingle out of our town and we will find someone else to do the court appointed cases!
Council survived after you left, Honaker and Marion survived after you left and Lebanon will too. I bet property value will go up instantly. Now take the hint we have been trying to give you at every election and get lost.
Give it up?? Who are you referring to on your thread??
Robert

Lebanon, VA

#43 Jul 30, 2010
The only way Russell County is going to get rid of the dirty politicians that are in our local offices is with OUR vote. No matter what is being said on Topix.com , it's not going to change things. Votes change things.
No voter ever refused to support a candidate for turning down the perks and privileges of an office. Voters are sick and tire of officeholders with lucrative salaries, the ability to bounce checks without penalty, and pension plans that won't quit. They're tired of officeholders who don't understand what it means to loose health care coverage or have the company you have worked for all your life go under and take the pension plan you were counting on for your retirement with it.

To put it another way, the diversion might work to diffuse a controversial issue and to gain the candidate votes. But, if it doesn't work, it won't fracture the coalition that the candidate is building to win election. The candidate doesn't lose any ground if the strategy is unsuccessful. They have to simply find another approach to winning over enough voters like us to be successful.

We as voters need to stick to our guns!!! The candidates may not like it, but we still want them to talk about how they'll control the growth in property taxes, jobs, etc. One way we can make a candidate accountable for his/her campaign promises is talk about every issue that you want to hear about. Make them take the very risks that they try so hard to avoid when they start their campaign and come out knocking on your door or at the meetings. BE PERSISTENT!

If these elected local people we have voted in our local offices haven't done what they have promised when they were campaigning, then remember that come County Election Time next year. The good old boy thing has to change. Just because we like someone don't make them a politician because once they get in, there is nothing you can do until their terms ends except suck it up and try your hardest to help vote them back out come next election.
So, I am urging all you people who get on topix and speak out against these local politicians, help get these people who are not registered, registered and make sure you get them to the polls to get the vote out. That's the only way we are going to see change coming to Russell County.
We have nothing in Russell County except we are paying into our politicians salaries and retirement system and we are sitting back and don't even have a job to go to in Russell County. You look around at the surrounding counties such as Dickenson County (Regional Jail), Wise County (three prisons) Tazewell County (prison) Buchanan County,(Coal mines and prison) Washington County (Regional Jail) Our local politicians sit right back and watched Southwest Regional Jail get taken right out of the County. They were looking to put the Regional Jail in Hanson ville and it got taken to Washington County. Is this what we want in this county?? NOTHING If yes, keep voting these dirty rascals back in office and you will continue to see NOTHING!!
jack

Salem, VA

#44 Jul 30, 2010
Stewart wrote:
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Sheriff Newman is always on the job and at every Board of Supervisor meeting trying to get more money for his department. He don't have a 10 am to 3 pm job. He's always out with his deputies, investigating, etc.
Yeah, that's what we need, speed traps like John Douglas wayside, where they right you for going 58, yeah, 58. Washington county have at least three patroling that road all the time.
assistance for the poor

Clinchco, VA

#45 Jul 30, 2010
Robert wrote:
The only way Russell County is going to get rid of the dirty politicians that are in our local offices is with OUR vote. No matter what is being said on Topix.com , it's not going to change things. Votes change things.
No voter ever refused to support a candidate for turning down the perks and privileges of an office. Voters are sick and tire of officeholders with lucrative salaries, the ability to bounce checks without penalty, and pension plans that won't quit. They're tired of officeholders who don't understand what it means to loose health care coverage or have the company you have worked for all your life go under and take the pension plan you were counting on for your retirement with it.
To put it another way, the diversion might work to diffuse a controversial issue and to gain the candidate votes. But, if it doesn't work, it won't fracture the coalition that the candidate is building to win election. The candidate doesn't lose any ground if the strategy is unsuccessful. They have to simply find another approach to winning over enough voters like us to be successful.
We as voters need to stick to our guns!!! The candidates may not like it, but we still want them to talk about how they'll control the growth in property taxes, jobs, etc. One way we can make a candidate accountable for his/her campaign promises is talk about every issue that you want to hear about. Make them take the very risks that they try so hard to avoid when they start their campaign and come out knocking on your door or at the meetings. BE PERSISTENT!
If these elected local people we have voted in our local offices haven't done what they have promised when they were campaigning, then remember that come County Election Time next year. The good old boy thing has to change. Just because we like someone don't make them a politician because once they get in, there is nothing you can do until their terms ends except suck it up and try your hardest to help vote them back out come next election.
So, I am urging all you people who get on topix and speak out against these local politicians, help get these people who are not registered, registered and make sure you get them to the polls to get the vote out. That's the only way we are going to see change coming to Russell County.
We have nothing in Russell County except we are paying into our politicians salaries and retirement system and we are sitting back and don't even have a job to go to in Russell County. You look around at the surrounding counties such as Dickenson County (Regional Jail), Wise County (three prisons) Tazewell County (prison) Buchanan County,(Coal mines and prison) Washington County (Regional Jail) Our local politicians sit right back and watched Southwest Regional Jail get taken right out of the County. They were looking to put the Regional Jail in Hanson ville and it got taken to Washington County. Is this what we want in this county?? NOTHING If yes, keep voting these dirty rascals back in office and you will continue to see NOTHING!!
What company did you work for? Tell us a little more on how you have learned to cope with out health ins and with out your pension you were counting on. Let us know how you are making it thru this hardship. Can you tell us what you need?

Maybe social services will help you if you get kicked out of your home. If things don't get better by winter you could get some heating assistance. I know winters are rough on you elderly people. If a man has worked all of his life and loses his job at your age, he deserves some Gov. assistance. I hope you don't have to decide to buy either food or medicine. If so there is a food pantry in slabtown that may feed you while you can't feed yourself.

Do you know where slabtown is? Do you need any help getting out of your house to get the help you so desperately need?
Newgene

Clinchco, VA

#46 Jul 30, 2010
Robert wrote:
The only way Russell County is going to get rid of the dirty politicians that are in our local offices is with OUR vote. No matter what is being said on Topix.com , it's not going to change things. Votes change things.
No voter ever refused to support a candidate for turning down the perks and privileges of an office. Voters are sick and tire of officeholders with lucrative salaries, the ability to bounce checks without penalty, and pension plans that won't quit. They're tired of officeholders who don't understand what it means to loose health care coverage or have the company you have worked for all your life go under and take the pension plan you were counting on for your retirement with it.
To put it another way, the diversion might work to diffuse a controversial issue and to gain the candidate votes. But, if it doesn't work, it won't fracture the coalition that the candidate is building to win election. The candidate doesn't lose any ground if the strategy is unsuccessful. They have to simply find another approach to winning over enough voters like us to be successful.
We as voters need to stick to our guns!!! The candidates may not like it, but we still want them to talk about how they'll control the growth in property taxes, jobs, etc. One way we can make a candidate accountable for his/her campaign promises is talk about every issue that you want to hear about. Make them take the very risks that they try so hard to avoid when they start their campaign and come out knocking on your door or at the meetings. BE PERSISTENT!
If these elected local people we have voted in our local offices haven't done what they have promised when they were campaigning, then remember that come County Election Time next year. The good old boy thing has to change. Just because we like someone don't make them a politician because once they get in, there is nothing you can do until their terms ends except suck it up and try your hardest to help vote them back out come next election.
So, I am urging all you people who get on topix and speak out against these local politicians, help get these people who are not registered, registered and make sure you get them to the polls to get the vote out. That's the only way we are going to see change coming to Russell County.
We have nothing in Russell County except we are paying into our politicians salaries and retirement system and we are sitting back and don't even have a job to go to in Russell County. You look around at the surrounding counties such as Dickenson County (Regional Jail), Wise County (three prisons) Tazewell County (prison) Buchanan County,(Coal mines and prison) Washington County (Regional Jail) Our local politicians sit right back and watched Southwest Regional Jail get taken right out of the County. They were looking to put the Regional Jail in Hanson ville and it got taken to Washington County. Is this what we want in this county?? NOTHING If yes, keep voting these dirty rascals back in office and you will continue to see NOTHING!!
The people I remember talking to didn't want the regional jail around here. Really who wants a criminal attraction in their Co. With a jail comes inmates with inmates comes crimes with crimes comes trouble for everybody. I see inmates getting released from jail in Washington Co who walk thru communities looking for somewhere to go. I really don't like the idea of needy criminals walking up the road after they get released from jail for who knows what they did.

We didn't want it and we didn't get it. Thanks politicans!
Robert

Lebanon, VA

#47 Jul 31, 2010
Newgene wrote:
<quoted text>
The people I remember talking to didn't want the regional jail around here. Really who wants a criminal attraction in their Co. With a jail comes inmates with inmates comes crimes with crimes comes trouble for everybody. I see inmates getting released from jail in Washington Co who walk thru communities looking for somewhere to go. I really don't like the idea of needy criminals walking up the road after they get released from jail for who knows what they did.
We didn't want it and we didn't get it. Thanks politicians!
Newgene,,,, Have you lost your damn mind or what? How many men/women in Russell County do you think is driving every damn day of their lives to get to Abingdon to work at the Regional Jail?? I am not too concerned with the inmates that is in jail, it's the ones running loose that they haven't caught yet you got to worry about. We make our damn living working at the Regional Jail every damn day and I am Thankful for it too. Trigg Fields told me personally we had the opportunity to get the Regional Jail and they were considering buying some property from Joe Gilmer to put it there and these crazy politicians voted against it so Fred Newman slipped it right out of under them because Washington County Board of Supervisor's knew it was going to bring revenue to their county. Our Board of Supervisors had their head buried in the sand like an Ostrich and their asses turned up to the sun and sit back and let that opportunity get away from them.
Can you imagine the tax the State pays for that Regional jail over there in Washington County? You have inmates families who come to see their family member and when they come to the county they usually eat somewhere and buy gas so thats more revenue for the county. This Board of Supervisors we have (excluding Mr. Bowerbank) don't have sense enough to look that far ahead to know that the Regional Jail could have been some big bucks for the County. The State pays allot of tax which would also give Russell County a jump start boost for the unemployment rate. We might have gained some people who drive from everywhere to work at the jail to buy homes here in the county and send their children to our schools etc. The Board of Supervisors don't care because most all of them are so damn old they can't see the big picture or think out of the box of what the Regional Jail could have brought to Russell County. It's time for us to elect some new board member and send them home and send "Alice" behind them.
Newgene

Blue Ridge, VA

#48 Jul 31, 2010
Robert wrote:
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Newgene,,,, Have you lost your damn mind or what? How many men/women in Russell County do you think is driving every damn day of their lives to get to Abingdon to work at the Regional Jail?? I am not too concerned with the inmates that is in jail, it's the ones running loose that they haven't caught yet you got to worry about. We make our damn living working at the Regional Jail every damn day and I am Thankful for it too. Trigg Fields told me personally we had the opportunity to get the Regional Jail and they were considering buying some property from Joe Gilmer to put it there and these crazy politicians voted against it so Fred Newman slipped it right out of under them because Washington County Board of Supervisor's knew it was going to bring revenue to their county. Our Board of Supervisors had their head buried in the sand like an Ostrich and their asses turned up to the sun and sit back and let that opportunity get away from them.
Can you imagine the tax the State pays for that Regional jail over there in Washington County? You have inmates families who come to see their family member and when they come to the county they usually eat somewhere and buy gas so thats more revenue for the county. This Board of Supervisors we have (excluding Mr. Bowerbank) don't have sense enough to look that far ahead to know that the Regional Jail could have been some big bucks for the County. The State pays allot of tax which would also give Russell County a jump start boost for the unemployment rate. We might have gained some people who drive from everywhere to work at the jail to buy homes here in the county and send their children to our schools etc. The Board of Supervisors don't care because most all of them are so damn old they can't see the big picture or think out of the box of what the Regional Jail could have brought to Russell County. It's time for us to elect some new board member and send them home and send "Alice" behind them.
The national debt keeps increasing, the value of the dollar keeps going down. It looks to me like trying to make money with goverment funded projects is a futile effort. There is no actual money generated from things like jails.

The jail and all of the other goverment services would suck money from our county to support the surrounding counties. The school system is already broke. You propose to load them down with more poor, non taxable kids with poor parents who are living paycheck to paycheck who get earned income tax breaks from the goverment. That can not ever work, it is just bad business.

As far as inmates families spending money coming to see thier family, that is just ignorant. No business can survive, as long as it is dependant on poor people.

Your leaders made a wise decision by letting the neighboring counties house our prisioners. Lower per day-per inmate cost without all the trouble of just trying to break even.

Let smart people decide the things you do not understand.
Robert

Lebanon, VA

#49 Jul 31, 2010
Newgene wrote:
<quoted text>
The national debt keeps increasing, the value of the dollar keeps going down. It looks to me like trying to make money with goverment funded projects is a futile effort. There is no actual money generated from things like jails.
The jail and all of the other goverment services would suck money from our county to support the surrounding counties. The school system is already broke. You propose to load them down with more poor, non taxable kids with poor parents who are living paycheck to paycheck who get earned income tax breaks from the goverment. That can not ever work, it is just bad business.
As far as inmates families spending money coming to see thier family, that is just ignorant. No business can survive, as long as it is dependant on poor people.
Your leaders made a wise decision by letting the neighboring counties house our prisioners. Lower per day-per inmate cost without all the trouble of just trying to break even.
Let smart people decide the things you do not understand.
Would you give me an example of who you would call "Smart-People" in Russell County and also who do you classify as being the poor among us. Tell me someone in Russell County who is not living paycheck to paycheck monthly. You are just plain out IGNORANT, about like the "leaders" we have in Russell County. I drive to the Regional Jail every damn day/night to work and hell yeah I usually buy my food,etc. from Washington County. I have yet to know anyone from Russell County that I would classify as being "Wealthy". I think even the few of us that are working are the average or poor working class. You must be one of the "Leaders" of the damn county and hell no I am not leaving this up to them, Did you forget that we voted these old decreptes in office and we can vote their asses out??
Robert

Lebanon, VA

#50 Jul 31, 2010
And furthermore man, my kids go to school and me and my wife both work and I don't consider my kids going to school as loading the damn schools down with poor kids. Russell County schools are broke because they have created every damn person in politics a damn job up at the School Board office. They sure the hell haven't given the poor old teachers any extra money for their long and hard hours put in. Also; just because people go to jail doesn't always mean they are poor. Getting in trouble with the law means it pays, everybody gets a piece of the pie, the Attorney's, the Judges, the court clerks and all the workers that work with this shit, and most of all the poor old offenders pay out the ass like with VASAP programs, probation officers, etc. So hell yeah, I think crime pays, if not, then we would have no use for the court system, law enforcement, VASAP, lot of Attorney's, etc. So don't come up on here and tell me crime don't pay, get your ass in trouble and you will see how much money it cost you to get out of it. EVERYBODY GETS A PIECE OF THE PIE, SO YES, CRIME PAYS, DRUGS PAYS!!!!
Shawnell

Lebanon, VA

#51 Jul 31, 2010
i got into trouble and went to jail and lost every thing i had trying to work myself out of it. i am coming to the top now but its been a long hard road getting these 5 yers behind me. i think old robert is rite, crime pays drug pays. if we dint have these no use for them damn judges and lawyers. sit yur ass down in one of them lawyer offices and see how much it cost u and then tell me the poor dont pay. its the ignorent and illiterate peeps like me that keep most of these damn lawyers and poLeese shingles hanging out.
Newgene

Blue Ridge, VA

#52 Jul 31, 2010
Robert wrote:
And furthermore man, my kids go to school and me and my wife both work and I don't consider my kids going to school as loading the damn schools down with poor kids. Russell County schools are broke because they have created every damn person in politics a damn job up at the School Board office. They sure the hell haven't given the poor old teachers any extra money for their long and hard hours put in. Also; just because people go to jail doesn't always mean they are poor. Getting in trouble with the law means it pays, everybody gets a piece of the pie, the Attorney's, the Judges, the court clerks and all the workers that work with this shit, and most of all the poor old offenders pay out the ass like with VASAP programs, probation officers, etc. So hell yeah, I think crime pays, if not, then we would have no use for the court system, law enforcement, VASAP, lot of Attorney's, etc. So don't come up on here and tell me crime don't pay, get your ass in trouble and you will see how much money it cost you to get out of it. EVERYBODY GETS A PIECE OF THE PIE, SO YES, CRIME PAYS, DRUGS PAYS!!!!
Your letting the cat out of the bag. Did you lose your Russell Co. republican party handbook again?

Now this is the real reason the same republicans keep trying to get erected. They want us to keep up all the people on welfare and all the people above middle class. Both sides are dependant on the goverment while one side is wealthy and arrogant. Neither group is self supporting and the tax payer pays for all of it in the name of crime and drugs.

We want more crime, we want more drugs, let us control the pie and we will get wealthy and arrogant. We have a image to keep up, that makes it look like we are hard on crime and drugs. We keep raking it in while the public thinks we are doing our best to stop crime and drugs.

We do not want crime and drugs to go away, we just want the public to believe the lie that we are winning the war against crime and drugs.

What benifits the "court system, law enforcement, VASAP, lot of Attorney's, etc." is ok even if it cost the tax payer. Sure the criminal pays some also but not much of this money makes it back into the local economy (because it stays in our pocket). So the tax payer pays for the extravagent lives of "court system, law enforcement, VASAP, lot of Attorney's, etc." As long as we keep control of the supply of criminals and the demand for criminal housing, we can get filthy rich at the expense of the tax payer and the criminal.

Not everybody gets a piece of the pie, just the people in the loop.
Now don't tell everybody and pretend to be against criminals and drugs so the public will vote Republican.
Dan

Lebanon, VA

#53 Jul 31, 2010
Newgene wrote:
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Your letting the cat out of the bag. Did you lose your Russell Co. republican party handbook again?
Now this is the real reason the same republicans keep trying to get erected. They want us to keep up all the people on welfare and all the people above middle class. Both sides are dependant on the goverment while one side is wealthy and arrogant. Neither group is self supporting and the tax payer pays for all of it in the name of crime and drugs.
We want more crime, we want more drugs, let us control the pie and we will get wealthy and arrogant. We have a image to keep up, that makes it look like we are hard on crime and drugs. We keep raking it in while the public thinks we are doing our best to stop crime and drugs.
We do not want crime and drugs to go away, we just want the public to believe the lie that we are winning the war against crime and drugs.
What benifits the "court system, law enforcement, VASAP, lot of Attorney's, etc." is ok even if it cost the tax payer. Sure the criminal pays some also but not much of this money makes it back into the local economy (because it stays in our pocket). So the tax payer pays for the extravagent lives of "court system, law enforcement, VASAP, lot of Attorney's, etc." As long as we keep control of the supply of criminals and the demand for criminal housing, we can get filthy rich at the expense of the tax payer and the criminal.
Not everybody gets a piece of the pie, just the people in the loop.
Now don't tell everybody and pretend to be against criminals and drugs so the public will vote Republican.
You sound Ignorant man! Are you one of those "yellow-back" democrats who probably don't even know what the party stands for and can't even spell DEMOCRAT?? You have to have someone take you to the polls and help you vote because you don't even have enough knowledge to know who is running and what they stand for on any issue. You just know what your parents, grandparents, etc. once told you to vote the democrat way????
Altizer

Lebanon, VA

#54 Jul 31, 2010
Newgene wrote:
<quoted text>
Your letting the cat out of the bag. Did you lose your Russell Co. republican party handbook again?
Now this is the real reason the same republicans keep trying to get erected. They want us to keep up all the people on welfare and all the people above middle class. Both sides are dependant on the goverment while one side is wealthy and arrogant. Neither group is self supporting and the tax payer pays for all of it in the name of crime and drugs.
We want more crime, we want more drugs, let us control the pie and we will get wealthy and arrogant. We have a image to keep up, that makes it look like we are hard on crime and drugs. We keep raking it in while the public thinks we are doing our best to stop crime and drugs.
We do not want crime and drugs to go away, we just want the public to believe the lie that we are winning the war against crime and drugs.
What benifits the "court system, law enforcement, VASAP, lot of Attorney's, etc." is ok even if it cost the tax payer. Sure the criminal pays some also but not much of this money makes it back into the local economy (because it stays in our pocket). So the tax payer pays for the extravagent lives of "court system, law enforcement, VASAP, lot of Attorney's, etc." As long as we keep control of the supply of criminals and the demand for criminal housing, we can get filthy rich at the expense of the tax payer and the criminal.
Not everybody gets a piece of the pie, just the people in the loop.
Now don't tell everybody and pretend to be against criminals and drugs so the public will vote Republican.
Not much money makes it back to the local economy?? You mean these men/women who go outside the county to work in the state facilities and the Regional jails don't live in Russell County and buy their food, shop at walmart, buy gas, pay real estate tax or personal property tax, etc...You sound like a damn fool! And I am sorry but the offender pays out the ass so where does that money go if it doesn't go to help pay salaries of the judges, courts, law enforcement, VASAP, Parole Officers, etc.. You are a fucking IDIOT who don't understand how the system works!
Kutter

Lebanon, VA

#55 Jul 31, 2010
Newgene wrote:
<quoted text>
The national debt keeps increasing, the value of the dollar keeps going down. It looks to me like trying to make money with goverment funded projects is a futile effort. There is no actual money generated from things like jails.
The jail and all of the other goverment services would suck money from our county to support the surrounding counties. The school system is already broke. You propose to load them down with more poor, non taxable kids with poor parents who are living paycheck to paycheck who get earned income tax breaks from the goverment. That can not ever work, it is just bad business.
As far as inmates families spending money coming to see thier family, that is just ignorant. No business can survive, as long as it is dependant on poor people.
Your leaders made a wise decision by letting the neighboring counties house our prisioners. Lower per day-per inmate cost without all the trouble of just trying to break even.
Let smart people decide the things you do not understand.
Well,,,the smart ppl sure isn't you there, NewGene!
Newgene

Haysi, VA

#56 Jul 31, 2010
Altizer wrote:
<quoted text>
Not much money makes it back to the local economy?? You mean these men/women who go outside the county to work in the state facilities and the Regional jails don't live in Russell County and buy their food, shop at walmart, buy gas, pay real estate tax or personal property tax, etc...You sound like a damn fool! And I am sorry but the offender pays out the ass so where does that money go if it doesn't go to help pay salaries of the judges, courts, law enforcement, VASAP, Parole Officers, etc.. You are a fucking IDIOT who don't understand how the system works!
I said, Not much of the money makes it into the local economy. The avg.$35,000 salary for the whole crew is pocket change to the budget it takes to run a facility like that. You'd be working somewhere else and still living here so the jail is not what brings your salary back to the county anyway, it is you.

You said "And I am sorry but the offender pays out the ass so where does that money go if it doesn't go to help pay salaries of the judges, courts, law enforcement, VASAP, Parole Officers, etc.."
I am with you and that is exactly what I said. It goes to all of these people but we citizens who are footing the bill for the whole shebang never get our money back. You may get some of it, they may get some of it, but the tax payer never gets thier money back.

After the jail comes public housing and methadone clinics and other goverment subsidised fake businesses that don't pay for themselves. That force the taxpayer into paying higher taxes.

What looks good to your eye and sounds good to your ear is not always good for you in the long run. Washington Co got the jail, now look at thier property tax. If it made any money for the taxpayer why did thier taxes keep going up. 90% of the people there are paying for that jail and only 10% are getting anything out of it.

Now when the people do not have money, the Goverment does. Does it not strike you as odd that the people are so broke they get kicked out of thier houses but the goverment could afford to bail out all those billions of dollar companies. The taxpayer can not support every goverment owned fake business that makes people think it is helping thier economy.

Look we are in a bad resession because of these blind type of get rich quick schemes. I am glad you are working and all but I am talking about the big picture. We are going broke trying to make jobs that do not support themselves. Jails do not produce a sellable product and absorb more money than they make unless you are one of the mentioned people.

All the communities had one of these so called money makers called a jail. If there was so mucn money in it for the community what was the need to build a regional jail in the first place. I watched the news and remember hearing everybody telling how much it cost to run the jails and how it was necessary to have them all combined to lessen the cost so peoples taxes wouldn't go up.

We already had one of these moneymakers and it almost bankrupted us.

Only a few get a piece of the pie. But we all have to pay for the pie. Stop the cussing and look at the deception right infront of your faces.

I am a Republican by the way.
Were on to you

Haysi, VA

#57 Jul 31, 2010
We are on to you Bill, Robert, Shawnell and Dan.

I didn't know yall had a Shawnell in the family. How might that of happened?

I see in post 43 you said "No voter ever refused to support a candidate for turning down the perks and privileges of an office. Voters are sick and tire of officeholders with lucrative salaries."
If I am reading correctly, you are saying you will work for free, or some of "Them there Niki" shoes. I think I see why your having so much trouble feeding your family.
The trouble with you folks working for free is we get what we pay for.
enemy of the elite

United States

#58 Aug 1, 2010
Ya know I had a friend who passed away a while back that was staunch Democrat in the county. He was a good person but he once asked me if I voted "right" lol. I went home and thought about what he said (being a very liberal person myself) I thought he's talking about voting with the crowd that's in power right now because they were his friends as well. Now I myself don't necessarily consider that voting "right" because nomatter what party flag they wave they're gonna be in it for themselves and their families/cronies. We had discussions on some of the politicians i.e, Mike Bush etc., and I noticed that some of these old timers are party loyal even if they know for a fact that the person running is a scumbag idiot that's gonna rob the place.

But, like I've said before Russell County sucks and always will because those that are in power and own the land, control the local gov't, etc. makes sure that as long as there are people that live here they will take advantage of them.

I myself I'm in a stuck shape I cannot leave (yet). I have a bachelor's degree in Computer Science and I'm making a wonderful minimum wage! that I had to wait over a year of being unemployed to get. Those two big high and mighty companies (that won't even give me chance) NG and CGI are as dirty as the people that are hated that run the show around here. Apparentley it seems that to get a job you have to have experience and to get experience you have to have a job. I mean what kind of henhouse catch 22 bullshit is that?

I've been done dirty by those in power all for the sake of money and keeping things quiet. However, even though I have mostly bad memories of this place and would leave in a New York minute I have to make the best of it. I feel like the infighting camps of party loyals will go on until the end of days but it remains to be seen if true change will ever come to THIS place because from all accounts I've heard it's always been this way and probably always will be.
Hale

Lebanon, VA

#59 Aug 1, 2010
enemy of the elite wrote:
Ya know I had a friend who passed away a while back that was staunch Democrat in the county. He was a good person but he once asked me if I voted "right" lol. I went home and thought about what he said (being a very liberal person myself) I thought he's talking about voting with the crowd that's in power right now because they were his friends as well. Now I myself don't necessarily consider that voting "right" because no matter what party flag they wave they're gonna be in it for themselves and their families/cronies. We had discussions on some of the politicians i.e, Mike Bush etc., and I noticed that some of these old timers are party loyal even if they know for a fact that the person running is a scumbag idiot that's gonna rob the place.
But, like I've said before Russell County sucks and always will because those that are in power and own the land, control the local gov't, etc. makes sure that as long as there are people that live here they will take advantage of them.
I myself I'm in a stuck shape I cannot leave (yet). I have a bachelor's degree in Computer Science and I'm making a wonderful minimum wage! that I had to wait over a year of being unemployed to get. Those two big high and mighty companies (that won't even give me chance) NG and CGI are as dirty as the people that are hated that run the show around here. Apparently it seems that to get a job you have to have experience and to get experience you have to have a job. I mean what kind of hen house catch 22 bullshit is that?
I've been done dirty by those in power all for the sake of money and keeping things quiet. However, even though I have mostly bad memories of this place and would leave in a New York minute I have to make the best of it. I feel like the infighting camps of party loyal will go on until the end of days but it remains to be seen if true change will ever come to THIS place because from all accounts I've heard it's always been this way and probably always will be.
Maybe you are just the wrong color; did you consider this? In Russell County, to get a job, you either suck a democrats ass and sell out to satin, or be Black, no one in this county gets a job on his/her qualifications. SAD! If you have a Bachelors' degree, you would probably be qualified to run CGI or Trump in Computer science. Who ever took your application probably has a high school diploma and you scared the shit out of them and your application went into file 13 (better known as trash),
Jackson

Lebanon, VA

#60 Aug 1, 2010
Newgene wrote:
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Your letting the cat out of the bag. Did you lose your Russell Co. republican party handbook again?
Now this is the real reason the same republicans keep trying to get erected. They want us to keep up all the people on welfare and all the people above middle class. Both sides are dependant on the goverment while one side is wealthy and arrogant. Neither group is self supporting and the tax payer pays for all of it in the name of crime and drugs.
We want more crime, we want more drugs, let us control the pie and we will get wealthy and arrogant. We have a image to keep up, that makes it look like we are hard on crime and drugs. We keep raking it in while the public thinks we are doing our best to stop crime and drugs.
We do not want crime and drugs to go away, we just want the public to believe the lie that we are winning the war against crime and drugs.
What benifits the "court system, law enforcement, VASAP, lot of Attorney's, etc." is ok even if it cost the tax payer. Sure the criminal pays some also but not much of this money makes it back into the local economy (because it stays in our pocket). So the tax payer pays for the extravagent lives of "court system, law enforcement, VASAP, lot of Attorney's, etc." As long as we keep control of the supply of criminals and the demand for criminal housing, we can get filthy rich at the expense of the tax payer and the criminal.
Not everybody gets a piece of the pie, just the people in the loop.
Now don't tell everybody and pretend to be against criminals and drugs so the public will vote Republican.
Where do you get one of those Republican handbooks?

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