is there anyone who thinks derek shaf...

is there anyone who thinks derek shafer is innocent

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Curious

Ashland, KY

#1 Oct 3, 2010
i am just wondering of anyone thiks that derek shafer is innocent of the rape crime he was found guilty for?? Does anyone know anything about this??
IMO

Cincinnati, OH

#2 Oct 3, 2010
I have known Derek for about 5 yrs., I also sat thru the trial, I would still trust him alone with my teen daughter,or any of my children. I can only say that about a handful of people, teen or adult, as I am very protective of them. I listened to arguements on both sides and was not convinced that he did what he was accused or convicted of. Unfortunatly, he will be in Prison for the next 3-10 years, will not be allowed contact with children, is eliminated from ALOT of job/career poss., will be a registard sex offender, will have a felony record that he will report on any application he fills out that asks that question. All of that will happen if/after he is released from jail and the inmates and judicial system have given him what they both think is fair punishment for the "crime". May God help him!
Curious wrote:
i am just wondering of anyone thiks that derek shafer is innocent of the rape crime he was found guilty for?? Does anyone know anything about this??
Curious

Ashland, KY

#3 Oct 3, 2010
I am very upset by all of this because I KNOW that an innocent mans life has been ruined! I have always had faith in the judicial system. Now I don't! I am looking for some way or some one that can help him to prove that he is innocent of this! He has the right to another trial and any honest help someone can give him would be of great help! I have known Derek since he was a baby and I have a daughter myself. And YES I would entrust him with her in a heartbeat! Derek also had faith in the judicial system because he was offered a deal and didnt take it. He didn't take the deal because he could not justify pleading guilty to something he has NOT done! And yes...MAY GOD BE WITH HIM!
The Ex

Cincinnati, OH

#4 Nov 8, 2010
I dated derek a while ago, sure he makes some stupid choices, but their sex was consensual. The poor guys life is ruined, he broke my heart, and i would still defend him till the day i die, i pray for him daily!
Other side

Cincinnati, OH

#5 Nov 9, 2010
I think you all have personal stakes in this. I was in the courtroom for the whole trial and saw what the jury who convicted him saw. This man is a sociopath who will lie to everyone he knows. He raped a 14 year old girl and avoided convictions for 2 previous incidents of the same type. He showed no shame at all while lying on the stand about having sex with a girl he knew was 14 in front of family and friends and his pastor. His drug abuse definitely doesn't help either. I hope all you family and friends can really see the help he needs and hold him accountable and not believe his lies so that he can't ruin another girl's life.
to the other side and ex

Russell, KY

#6 Nov 9, 2010
to the other side i have this to say...no derek is not perfect...yes he has lied and yes they found marijuana in his system but that doesnt mean that he lied on the stand, does not mean he is a drug addict and this doesnt mean that he raped anyone. I have known derek for a very long time and he is not capable of rape. I am not going to say anymore because i am not going to place this on a teenage girls shoulders...or should i say the shoulders of the teenage girls mother...just know things arent always as they appear!!! 3 years of dereks life is gone and his future is ruined...AND I KNOW HE IS INNOCENT OF THE CHARGES HE WAS CHARGED WITH!!! was he guilty of being with a minor yes...bet i know for a fact she told him she was older than she was, is he perfect??? yet again no he isnt...just a teenage boy himself trying to find his way in life and took a wrong turn. Met the wrong girl and was wrongly accused!! For that his life is ruined forever...May God Be With Him...and Help Him!! Oh and one more thing...yes he is arrogant...but he walked into that court room knowing he was innocent and wasnt wise enough to know that showing that would make people think he was guilty of the crime...yet was silly enough to think that people would see that he wasnt worried because he didnt do it!! AND HE TRUSTED THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM!! From what i hear, the jury was tampered with!!?? oh and just so u know...he may have been an adult in years but was still in high school himself when he was seeing her, his mentality was therefore that of a high school boy...so of course he is going to date within his reach...which would mean high school girls...still yet, doesnt make him a rapist or a predator!!!

to the ex, you are right the sex was consensual and from what i hear it was so consensual she was trying to make another girl jealous with the fact they had, had sex...you know anything about that??

oh and the other side...are you a doctor?? to call someone a sociopath takes a lot of education!! derek pissed a lot of people of and this is what he gets in return??? still yet, being an asshole doesnt make you a rapist or a sociopath...
forgot to address

Russell, KY

#7 Nov 9, 2010
did you ever think he is just an arrogant teen with an attitude, one girl got the idea...oh i will get you and accused him of hurting her so when another girl got into a bad spot that idea was already placed in her head. true, yes!! believable to the average spectator, probably not!! everyone looks at derek like an adult, well he isnt, he just graduated for crying out loud...was still going to school when all of this started!!!
Other side

Cincinnati, OH

#8 Nov 9, 2010
What about the 2 other incidents of rape that he walked on?
fthere wasnt 2

Russell, KY

#9 Nov 9, 2010
this girl is the second...and my last reply was in reference to that...i wont sit here and say it doesnt look bad but i know what happened both times. the first girl was mad at him and accused him out of spite...which was proven...the one he was charged with didnt accuse him out of spite but out of fear of her parents. and not that i can read this girls mind but i would say that the first accusation was what gave her the idea. i have a daughter and i would fight for her till the end. i would defend her no matter what...so i am not putting the blame on anyone. i feel sorry for her because this is a lot to deal with for a young teenager. bless her heart but derek DID NOT RAPE HER!! and none of this changes the fact that an innocent teenager was placed behind bars. that his future is now non existent...no one will ever hire him or trust him. i find this will harm both sides eternally. unfortunately!!!! the damage is done to both parties and i find this to be very sad.
sounds bad

Russell, KY

#10 Nov 9, 2010
that was suppose to say there wasnt two others...the f was not suppose to be there.
unknown

West Chester, OH

#11 Feb 22, 2011
theres no way that derek would do that.
loving friend

Lodi, OH

#12 Feb 26, 2011
I have known derek for many years, and I am positive that there is no way he is capable of rape. He was raised better than that and I agree that the girl who charged him was totally antagonizing the girlfriend saying she was going to have sex with him. That evidence totally makes her case against him illegitament. Her pictures on her facebook page also don't exactly make her look 14, or very innocent herself. The court system is completely on her side because they saw a little girl cry rape and couldn't say no.
free derek

Donnelsville, OH

#13 Mar 2, 2011
Guilty as heck! Forget it! Any grown man hanging out with KIDS needs to be in prison! Good riddance to bad rubbish!
IMO

Cincinnati, OH

#14 Mar 2, 2011
When my son is 18, the age Derek was when this case took place. I will be sure to tell him to check her ID, maybe even her birth certificate. If she represents herself as 17, he will need proof I guess.
free derek wrote:
Guilty as heck! Forget it! Any grown man hanging out with KIDS needs to be in prison! Good riddance to bad rubbish!
Bill the Sign Guy

Columbus, OH

#15 Mar 2, 2011
Not guilty! He's a queer, I had sex with him!
martha

Columbus, OH

#16 Mar 7, 2011
Bill the Sign Guy wrote:
Not guilty! He's a queer, I had sex with him!
boy do you get around you have sex with everbody that goes to show everyone you are a dumb ass liar.
Bill the Sign Guy

Donnelsville, OH

#17 Mar 7, 2011
Don't be jealous Martha! You know where to find me.
Guilty

Franklin, OH

#18 Apr 8, 2011
John Derek Shafer deserves everything he got and more. Because of him two girls (and probably more) have had to go through so much and still have flash backs, anxiety attacks, and other issues that will follow them for the rest of their lives. He does not deserve the right to another trial at all. Even his own lawyer didn't want to represent him anymore because he was so sick of his crap. You could tell in the trial that Paris was getting annoyed with him. Derek is a sociopath. And yeah, I'm not a licensed psychologist, but I know many psychologists who have said that based on his behaviors, he is a sociopath. And for those of you standing up for Derek, sociopaths do that to you. They charm they hell out of you with all their lies. Look it up. And for those who are saying he did not lie on the stand, you're wrong. I don't think you all were in the room with him when he was raping us? It was us and him. So don't act like you know what happened. Derek is 100% capable of rape and when he gets out, I'm sure he will do it agian. He does everything to satisfy himself in the moment. Whether that be doing drugs, selling drugs, stealing traffic signs, stealing alcohol, drinking alcohol, or raping girls.(All stories Derek himself has told me about) He is extremely impulsive. Those of you who are saying his life is ruined because of "that girl", you couldn't be more wrong. His life is ruined because of himself. He's a big boy and he made all these decisons himself and it's about time he got what he deserved. He is an adult, just because he had been held back in school doesn't mean that he wasn't an 18 year old man. Rape is probably the 2nd worst crime that someone could commit, behind murder. If an 18 year old man murders someone, would you want them out on the street too? Didn't think so. The first girl did not accuse Derek out of spite. They dated and she was in love with him. However, she didn't want him to be able to do this horrific act to any other girls, so she took him to court. And once he was found innocent, what happened? He raped another girl. And the second girl did not do this to avoid punishment from her parents. Do any of you know how hard it is to go through that for months? Nope. You guys don't know that either. Well trust me, it's not worth it at all. It's probably the second worst thing we have had to go through...the first being the rape itself.
the big bad wolf

Lebanon, OH

#19 May 13, 2011
dereks a little punk.. i hung out with him for a few years and knew him for a lot longer. if he didnt do it they wouldnt have convicted him of it. hes a little punk and now hes gonna see how all them innocent little girls felt when he took there pride bc when he gets out everytime he caughs hes gonna shit all over himself.. they are gonna run through his asshole like the boston marathon. and he deserves everything he gets. hopefully he puts on some weight and learns how to fight bc hes gonna need it more when he gets out. hes lucky he didnt get caught for all the other underage girls he had sex with bc he wouldnt be out for a very long time..
the big bad wolf

Lebanon, OH

#20 May 13, 2011
how did he not know she she was 14? your raised in this town which is a small one and you know everyone in it.. thats bullshit he didnt know she was 14 and he knew what he was doing was wrong.. he knew the consequences when he got caught. and now hes doing time for only one underage girl he had sex with.. what about the others? rape is rape no matter what.. and you would have to know the difference between a 14 year old and someone 18 or older and if you dont your retarded . derek knew what he was doing.. and everyone who sticks up for him should have to go through what her and her parents did..

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