LION

Charlotte, NC

#528 Oct 30, 2012
Marco wrote:
Look! Before you write about a place, in this case SPAIN, you need at least to know where it is and its history. You need to go there and it would help if you could speak the language. You haven't been there, you can't speak the language and you don't know the history.
Next you wrote about Egypt from another era. The Nubians who had always been conquered, invaded or punished by the Egyptians invaded Egypt, conquered them and stayed there for sixty odd years, till they were kicked out by the Assyrians who didn't much care for the land of Egypt but Esarhaddon the Assyrian king took Memphis, and Taharqa the Nubian fled to Upper Egypt. Esarhaddon now called himself "king of Egypt, Patros and Kush", and returned with rich booty from the cities of the delta, besides he took the wife and daughters of Taharqa as his concubines ; he erected a victory stele at this time, showing the son of Taharqa in bondage. The beautiful stele is now in a Berlin museum. Taharqa the Nubian king who was kicked out and who lost his wife, daughters, gold, animals to the Assyrians is now the subject of a Hollywood movie
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I bet the movie about taharqa will make you shyt in your pants since you clearly feel intimidated by blacks.
I bet you had to see a pshychirtirst when obama became predident of USA.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#529 Oct 30, 2012
Marcoi wrote:
You still haven't mentioned one single "Black" Moor in any Spanish novel. Moorish culture took place in Southern Spain and Portugal not England or wherever. And novels are not history anyway. I gave you the names of Berber kings - lots of them. There were no Moors mixing with "White" (presumably you mean European)2,000 years ago. There were Romans conquering North Africa of course but tne Berbers were Caucasoid anyway.
Much later, 800 years after the Romans, Berbers and Arabs Ventured South, converted some sub-Saharans to Islam and enslaved millions of others. From then onwards Blacks started to be called "Abid" up to today. "Abid" of course, means "slaves".
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Black moorish king?

yusef tachiffin (and his descendants)
al mansur
4 moorish kings of aragon (3 mulatoes)
LION

Charlotte, NC

#530 Oct 30, 2012
Marco wrote:
I repeat, give me the quote, and the source, supposedly from Alfonso X in which he describes the kings of Aragon as black. And give me the quote in the original Spanish not some mumbo jumbo from a Negrocentric source
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I gave you a couple of websites already. Well here is another one:
WHO WERE THE MOORS 2FISHY GIRL ON SCRIBD
It is not a afrocentric website.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#531 Oct 30, 2012
Marco wrote:
I repeat, give me the quote, and the source, supposedly from Alfonso X in which he describes the kings of Aragon as black. And give me the quote in the original Spanish not some mumbo jumbo from a Negrocentric source
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CROWN OF ARAGON wiki clearly shows the 4 black moorish kings of aragon (near bottom right).
And wiki is usually racist when it comes to backhistory.
Sicilian Hound

Sydney, Australia

#532 Oct 30, 2012
Hold up, hold up , hold up...

I missed the last few episodes but it looks like they talking about the moors in europe without consulting me...

First up whats up Lion, how you been my brother?

Now, as some of you now I was born and raised in Catania, Sicily so I think I know a thing or two about sothern europe and its history, the moors were not black?! Marco are you insane or you re trying to be!?

I ll give you a quick example, in Sicily we have the opera dei pupi which is a puppet theather where they portrait stories of the conquest of sicily of various civilizations and their battles, check this pic :

http://sicilyscene.blogspot.com.au/2007_07_01...

Scroll down on that page until you read opera dei pupi, see how they portrait the saracen puppet, it looks black to me and, correct me if im wrong, weren t they the same saracens who conquered you ass in spain?!

Marco grow up my man, why fear black people and their history? Expecially when part of their history becomes yours!
Marco

San Gwann, Malta

#533 Oct 30, 2012
A website is not a quote. Give me the original sentence from Alfonso X and on which manuscript it appears
LION wrote:
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I gave you a couple of websites already. Well here is another one:
WHO WERE THE MOORS 2FISHY GIRL ON SCRIBD
It is not a afrocentric website.
Marco

San Gwann, Malta

#535 Oct 30, 2012
Sicilian Hound. I can't vouch for you or your mother.
Grow up man. Just because you live in a ghetto doesn't mean you have to believe Negrocentric rubbish. Neither the Berbers who formed the majority of the "Moors" in Spain nor the Arabs who led them were Black. There might have been some Blacks indicated by use of the word "Abid" originating at the time. "Abid" is the generic non-insulting word addressed to, and describing Blacks (sub-Saharans)and in use throughout North Africa. "Abid" of course means "slaves"
Sicilian Hound

Sydney, Australia

#536 Oct 31, 2012
Marco wrote:
Sicilian Hound. I can't vouch for you or your mother.
Grow up man. Just because you live in a ghetto doesn't mean you have to believe Negrocentric rubbish. Neither the Berbers who formed the majority of the "Moors" in Spain nor the Arabs who led them were Black. There might have been some Blacks indicated by use of the word "Abid" originating at the time. "Abid" is the generic non-insulting word addressed to, and describing Blacks (sub-Saharans)and in use throughout North Africa. "Abid" of course means "slaves"
First of all mothafucka mention my mother again and i will fly out to spain or wherever tha fuck you are to beat your stupid ass down!
I believe I was polite in my post and did not offend you or your family so don t be telling me to grow up,
Second of all even if i am from a ghetto what does dat have to do with anything, you just assumed dat coz you re a racist and classist f%ck, so go on hating who you want, run and hide undrr your bed when you see blacks or other ethnicities that intimidate you, you just looking like a fool by posting this nonesense we all know not to be true.
So go ahead keep running and hiding b!tch!
LION

Charlotte, NC

#538 Oct 31, 2012
Sicilian Hound wrote:
Hold up, hold up , hold up...
I missed the last few episodes but it looks like they talking about the moors in europe without consulting me...
First up whats up Lion, how you been my brother?
Now, as some of you now I was born and raised in Catania, Sicily so I think I know a thing or two about sothern europe and its history, the moors were not black?! Marco are you insane or you re trying to be!?
I ll give you a quick example, in Sicily we have the opera dei pupi which is a puppet theather where they portrait stories of the conquest of sicily of various civilizations and their battles, check this pic :
http://sicilyscene.blogspot.com.au/2007_07_01...
Scroll down on that page until you read opera dei pupi, see how they portrait the saracen puppet, it looks black to me and, correct me if im wrong, weren t they the same saracens who conquered you ass in spain?!
Marco grow up my man, why fear black people and their history? Expecially when part of their history becomes yours!
Whats up Sicilian Hound. Hope you are good. I've missed you, buddy.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#539 Oct 31, 2012
Marco wrote:
A website is not a quote. Give me the original sentence from Alfonso X and on which manuscript it appears
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I think we both cannot get a hold to the original manuscript. Try to be realistic here. Nothing still goes against the negro coat of arms as well as the writers who described black moors.
LION

Charlotte, NC

#540 Oct 31, 2012
Marco wrote:
Sicilian Hound. I can't vouch for you or your mother.
Grow up man. Just because you live in a ghetto doesn't mean you have to believe Negrocentric rubbish. Neither the Berbers who formed the majority of the "Moors" in Spain nor the Arabs who led them were Black. There might have been some Blacks indicated by use of the word "Abid" originating at the time. "Abid" is the generic non-insulting word addressed to, and describing Blacks (sub-Saharans)and in use throughout North Africa. "Abid" of course means "slaves"
You sound bitter and ignorant. Most moorish kings were described as black by eyewitnesses.
Most early moors were described by blacks by eyewitnesses.
Unlike Sicilian Hound, you are clearly and inseucre white boy with low self esteem. lol
LION

Charlotte, NC

#541 Oct 31, 2012
Sicilian Hound wrote:
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First of all mothafucka mention my mother again and i will fly out to spain or wherever tha fuck you are to beat your stupid ass down!
I believe I was polite in my post and did not offend you or your family so don t be telling me to grow up,
Second of all even if i am from a ghetto what does dat have to do with anything, you just assumed dat coz you re a racist and classist f%ck, so go on hating who you want, run and hide undrr your bed when you see blacks or other ethnicities that intimidate you, you just looking like a fool by posting this nonesense we all know not to be true.
So go ahead keep running and hiding b!tch!
lol
Sicilian Hound

Australia

#542 Nov 3, 2012
Hey Lion wats up man, sorry it took me a while to reply, hope u been well my man, i ain t even gonna waste my time with this marco guy just please don t judge all us europeans based on this guy,i know ur smarter than that anyway, its just a shame that expecially us southern europeans who even share blood and history with the moors have to be intimidated and turn hateful against them, we r not all like that i am proud of my history and all the civilazations that helped shape it including the moors.

Peace to you my broda
ru2religious

Citrus Heights, CA

#543 Nov 4, 2012
Bjizzle wrote:
You know what Im black and I know for a fact Berber are not black...although they are African they are not black in complection. I am friends with Algerian berber family and have learned alot about there culture. They are different from the Moors, although it is true the Moors civilized Europe. The first scientist, doctors of the world were African. Also the original Egyptians were darker complected with Afro-type hair (look at Hyroglifics). Only after many invasions from Greeks, Romans, And Arabs changed the look of modern Egyptians. Much like how we can now look at the average American and not see a trace of the true Native people.
Actually just because you say that you are black which we Moors don't call ourselves doesn't mean you know a think about what you saying. LETS SEE WHAT THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT SAY ABOUT BERBERS:

http://genealogytrails.com/scar/negro_law.htm
SECTION 4 The term Negro is confined to slave Africans (The ancient Berbers) and their descendants. It does not embrace the free inhabitants of Africa, such as the Egyptians, Moors, or the Negro Asiatics, such as Lascars.

The Moors were in fact Asiatic and African - but by the time this law was placed in effect the Arab invited into the Moorish movement. History shows that the Arab later came after the African Moors subdued They joined the movement because of the the ancient Afro-Asiatic knowledge of the Babylonians of Allah and Moslems - they joined forces - just to become the conquers in the end when they teamed up with the Roman Catholic church.
LION

Greensboro, NC

#544 Nov 6, 2012
Sicilian Hound wrote:
Hey Lion wats up man, sorry it took me a while to reply, hope u been well my man, i ain t even gonna waste my time with this marco guy just please don t judge all us europeans based on this guy,i know ur smarter than that anyway, its just a shame that expecially us southern europeans who even share blood and history with the moors have to be intimidated and turn hateful against them, we r not all like that i am proud of my history and all the civilazations that helped shape it including the moors.
Peace to you my broda
Wats up, buddy. I understand. I dont judge the entire white race by a few knuckleheads. I would not want people to judge the black race by a few idiots.
SO I am with you on that.
PEace to you.
Marco

San Gwann, Malta

#545 Nov 8, 2012
Regarding the Nubian king. What is there to envy regarding someone who lost his wife, son, daughters, animals gold etc to an Assyrian who didn't give a toss about Egypt but merely wanted to teach him, and actually did, to stay in his Nubian backwater.

Regarding Obama everyone knew that if Obama won the market would take a hammering, and it did. So we had shorted some stock, and are happy now. There will be many other instances of this in the next 4 years, that's for sure especially if the Chinese decide to crush the dollar
LION wrote:
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I bet the movie about taharqa will make you shyt in your pants since you clearly feel intimidated by blacks.
I bet you had to see a pshychirtirst when obama became predident of USA.
Bingi mugabe

Europe

#547 Nov 9, 2012
It is so sad that africans don't even know about their ancestors(moors)
LION

Charlotte, NC

#548 Nov 10, 2012
Marco wrote:
Regarding the Nubian king. What is there to envy regarding someone who lost his wife, son, daughters, animals gold etc to an Assyrian who didn't give a toss about Egypt but merely wanted to teach him, and actually did, to stay in his Nubian backwater.
Regarding Obama everyone knew that if Obama won the market would take a hammering, and it did. So we had shorted some stock, and are happy now. There will be many other instances of this in the next 4 years, that's for sure especially if the Chinese decide to crush the dollar
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The point of the nubian king is that of blacks with power of the past that have been overlooked at.
As for obama, is that all you have? lol
LION

Charlotte, NC

#549 Nov 10, 2012
Bingi mugabe wrote:
It is so sad that africans don't even know about their ancestors(moors)
Thats why our black filmakers need to jump on this.
Clarence Woorley

Oak Ridge, NC

#550 Nov 11, 2012
My dad always said they were.

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