Nurse turnout in large numbers; union...

Nurse turnout in large numbers; union confident 3-year deal will be...

There are 11 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 6, 2010, titled Nurse turnout in large numbers; union confident 3-year deal will be.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Nurses had authorized a strike, which would have begun Tuesday, over issues including pay and staffing levels.

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the nitty gritty

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Jul 7, 2010
The personal money concern was at the root of this entire strike situation, not patient care concerns related to staffing ratios as their earnest media plugs touted.

Considering that the average nursing (reported in earlier articles) pay is $35/hr and staffing bonuses routinely supplement that basic wage figure, they are hardly underpaid professionals. Bonuses are paid in addition to holiday or overtime pay scales, and whenever monetary enticement is felt necessary in order to cover staffing fluctuation needs.

I do not begrudge their right to negotiate a pay contract, but resent the duplicity and manipulation by nursing reps as seen in this current example. They could have at least bargained to create a task force to study what constitutes best practices already in practice at area hospitals to address staffing issues that have been successful from both an economic and patient care outlook. The fact that some local hospitals are doing a better job in this area was mentioned at times throughout this contract negotiation/strike period. Those practice models could be adapted and/or improved upon.

However, the nursing reps ignored that issue altogether in agreeing to the new terms set, thus proving their primary goals were always that of monetary gain alone.
Brett

Springfield, MO

#3 Jul 7, 2010
Amen tng^.

"Nurses had sought annual raises of 3 percent or more. But under the proposed agreement, they would see no increase in the first year of the contract and then raises of 1 percent in the second year and 2 percent in the third year."

What lunacy this is. I'm in construction, or rather was. I've been effectively out of work for two years. There's folks out there in worse shape that I am. Ya retask, retrain, ya find a way to feed the kids. These union reps hit the campaign trail trying to convince us that it was all about staffing issues not benefits or money.

Yet there's no staffing deal, but money and benefits are written in stone. I've been saying their claims from the beginning were crap. It's nice to be right...again. The union was just trying to get MN on the same page as their national constituency. Cause that's what will make our nation strong again, national sized unions.

SOB's are lucky they still have jobs and they act like their union members are downtrodden. I don't begrudge the nurses themselves, but ya'll HAVE to see that the day of the union is over. Their purpose is spent.
asdfgh

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Jul 7, 2010
Brett wrote:
Amen tng^.
"Nurses had sought annual raises of 3 percent or more. But under the proposed agreement, they would see no increase in the first year of the contract and then raises of 1 percent in the second year and 2 percent in the third year."
What lunacy this is. I'm in construction, or rather was. I've been effectively out of work for two years. There's folks out there in worse shape that I am. Ya retask, retrain, ya find a way to feed the kids. These union reps hit the campaign trail trying to convince us that it was all about staffing issues not benefits or money.
Yet there's no staffing deal, but money and benefits are written in stone. I've been saying their claims from the beginning were crap. It's nice to be right...again. The union was just trying to get MN on the same page as their national constituency. Cause that's what will make our nation strong again, national sized unions.
SOB's are lucky they still have jobs and they act like their union members are downtrodden. I don't begrudge the nurses themselves, but ya'll HAVE to see that the day of the union is over. Their purpose is spent.
The Credit Default Swaps got you Brett, like they did millions of other folks. William McGuire is not greedy.
johnn mcain

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Jul 7, 2010
Brett wrote:
Amen tng^.
"Nurses had sought annual raises of 3 percent or more. But under the proposed agreement, they would see no increase in the first year of the contract and then raises of 1 percent in the second year and 2 percent in the third year."
What lunacy this is. I'm in construction, or rather was. I've been effectively out of work for two years. There's folks out there in worse shape that I am. Ya retask, retrain, ya find a way to feed the kids. These union reps hit the campaign trail trying to convince us that it was all about staffing issues not benefits or money.
Yet there's no staffing deal, but money and benefits are written in stone. I've been saying their claims from the beginning were crap. It's nice to be right...again. The union was just trying to get MN on the same page as their national constituency. Cause that's what will make our nation strong again, national sized unions.
SOB's are lucky they still have jobs and they act like their union members are downtrodden. I don't begrudge the nurses themselves, but ya'll HAVE to see that the day of the union is over. Their purpose is spent.
you been out of work for 2 years and your whinning and complaining about the nurses trying to protect ther jobs, man! you deserve to lose your job.
johnn mcain

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Jul 7, 2010
Brett wrote:
Amen tng^.
"Nurses had sought annual raises of 3 percent or more. But under the proposed agreement, they would see no increase in the first year of the contract and then raises of 1 percent in the second year and 2 percent in the third year."
What lunacy this is. I'm in construction, or rather was. I've been effectively out of work for two years. There's folks out there in worse shape that I am. Ya retask, retrain, ya find a way to feed the kids. These union reps hit the campaign trail trying to convince us that it was all about staffing issues not benefits or money.
Yet there's no staffing deal, but money and benefits are written in stone. I've been saying their claims from the beginning were crap. It's nice to be right...again. The union was just trying to get MN on the same page as their national constituency. Cause that's what will make our nation strong again, national sized unions.
SOB's are lucky they still have jobs and they act like their union members are downtrodden. I don't begrudge the nurses themselves, but ya'll HAVE to see that the day of the union is over. Their purpose is spent.
united health group c.e.o. william mcguire got 124 million dollars in 2005, what do you say about that? thats why our medical insurance premiums and medical cost is so expensive, one person earning over 100 million dollars in 1 year.
Robbie

Jefferson City, MO

#7 Jul 7, 2010
Chump change compared to many CEOs..........
the nitty gritty

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Jul 8, 2010
johnn mcain wrote:
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united health group c.e.o. william mcguire got 124 million dollars in 2005, what do you say about that? thats why our medical insurance premiums and medical cost is so expensive, one person earning over 100 million dollars in 1 year.
Completely agree with the above sentiments, although there are many more factors driving up health care costs beyond the outrageous CEO compensation issue. As someone who worked in hospitals for over 20 years, I can say the out of whack compensation is incrementally prevalent throughout the entire system, including medical supply costs and subsequent charges.

The majority of nurses work hard, and we sure do depend on their skills. But they are very well compensated too--just not to the absurd degree as seen in the United Health scenario. A nurse commented elsewhere that she/he had not reached the $35/hour pay scale until they'd worked 5 years--as if that was a looonnnggg time span.

Take a look around--there are many job roles we need to keep this society running that do not reach that hourly pay wage ever. That's where the arrogance or sense of entitlement irks me, specially when accompanied by an ultimately false advertising campaign that placed the staffing ratio issue as top dog for this contract negotiation session. And let's not forget that the routine administration of shift bonuses for nurses throughout the year to ensure the 24 hour staffing needs supplements the nursing pay scale rather handsomely.
WhatTheHeck

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Jul 8, 2010
$100-million dollars a year for a CEO! Those kinds of salaries are the reason for health care costs gone amuck. High salaries of CEO's in other businesses are the reason most of us haven't seen raises in years too. Disgusting and greedy. No one needs that kind of money, and they sure as hell aren't worth it.
Robbie

Jefferson City, MO

#10 Jul 8, 2010
WhatTheHeck wrote:
$100-million dollars a year for a CEO! Those kinds of salaries are the reason for health care costs gone amuck. High salaries of CEO's in other businesses are the reason most of us haven't seen raises in years too. Disgusting and greedy. No one needs that kind of money, and they sure as hell aren't worth it.
What p--- me off is when they leave a CEO go because they feel he isn't getting the job done and they fork out $30million as severence or a parting gift. Wouldn't any of us love to get $30million for doing a bad job and basically getting fired!! I know I can screw up a company as well as most of these clowns and would love a $30million parting gift. Yeah the rich create the jobs, they also control 98% of the wealth in this country---it's sure working out well......
WhatTheHeck

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Jul 9, 2010
Robbie wrote:
<quoted text>What p--- me off is when they leave a CEO go because they feel he isn't getting the job done and they fork out $30million as severence or a parting gift. Wouldn't any of us love to get $30million for doing a bad job and basically getting fired!! I know I can screw up a company as well as most of these clowns and would love a $30million parting gift. Yeah the rich create the jobs, they also control 98% of the wealth in this country---it's sure working out well......
Ha! You'd better believe there is more then one individual knowing what button to press that will raise complete havoc on some of these selfish companies. If it hasn't happened yet, they're damned lucky. I'll be happy just providing employment for myself. I am so disenchanted with employers I can't see my way clear to ever have another one. You're right about these CEO's getting fired and walking away with $30-million. Who in the hell ever decided these freaks are even worth that much money in the first place? They talk about Walmart being unfair to their employees. I've talked to more then one employee of Walmart and they have no complaints. Paying a freak $30-million to destroy a company is a whole lot worse then Walmart could ever dream of being. You'll never likely see behavior like that at a Walmart - ever.
U2Care

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Jul 12, 2010
Don't let the 0% increase fool you. Nurses receive an automatic "step" increase annually on top of the 2-3%. Additionally, the public should know that there has been a spike in RNs calling in sick since the strike was settled. There is no accountability for sick calls from RNs who have made a habit of it. Why? Because the union protects them. Additionally, according to the contract they were not suppose to be able to use vacation time during the 1-day strike or before they were called back after the 1-day strike. However, some hospitals are now going to pay the RNs. The profession has lost so much respect. I hope they work hard to grow it back and that patient satisfaction scores will increase. It is about the patients, right?

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