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Nurses file in and out of the Minnesota Nurses Association s offices on Randolph Avenue in St.

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THE TRUTH HURTS

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Jul 7, 2010
WOW !!!!!!!!

THANKS FOR CARING NOT ABOUT NURSE-PATIENT RATIOS BUT ABOUT YOUR PAY INCREASES AND PENSIONS AND BENEFITS.

YES. YOU REALLY **DO** CARE FOR..........

YOU !!!!!!!!!!

Great marketing ploy.

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basia

Embarrass, MN

#2 Jul 7, 2010
To "the truth hurts"-TOUCHE! We all know who the nurses were caring for-themselves. That will be the day (nor should it ever be) when the employees can tell the employers how to staff. As if hospitals want to kill or harm patients! That is not the business they are in. Unions need to get smarter or they will be obsolete. I am a loyal member of the steelworkers union local 6860. We don't dispute profit. If there is not a profit, fewer of us have jobs. As the steelworkers have seen over and over again.
Rusty Shackelford

Faribault, MN

#3 Jul 7, 2010
THE TRUTH HURTS wrote:
WOW !!!!!!!!
THANKS FOR CARING NOT ABOUT NURSE-PATIENT RATIOS BUT ABOUT YOUR PAY INCREASES AND PENSIONS AND BENEFITS.
YES. YOU REALLY **DO** CARE FOR..........
YOU !!!!!!!!!!
Great marketing ploy.
Mr/Ms Truth Hurts:
Negotiation involves compromise- which the employers steadfastly refused to do. So we are intact as a union and now maintain patient advocacy by going to the legislature. Safe staffing WILL be the law of the land, rather than being attacked every three years by predatory employers and commented on; i.e. union/ nurse bashing individuals like you. You obviously don't work.

In closing, I'd like to quote Rep Barney frank: "Trying to have a discussion with you is like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no desire to do so!"

Good bye

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brian

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Jul 7, 2010
Rusty Shackelford wrote:
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Mr/Ms Truth Hurts:
Negotiation involves compromise- which the employers steadfastly refused to do. So we are intact as a union and now maintain patient advocacy by going to the legislature. Safe staffing WILL be the law of the land, rather than being attacked every three years by predatory employers and commented on; i.e. union/ nurse bashing individuals like you. You obviously don't work.
In closing, I'd like to quote Rep Barney frank: "Trying to have a discussion with you is like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no desire to do so!"
Good bye
You lost all credibility when you quoted a moron like Barney Frank.

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basics

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Jul 7, 2010
Yup--the $$ were the basic issue and the staffing issue the emotional ploy repeatedly used in an attempt to gain the public's sympathy in this current economic downswing time period for a professional group that cannot plead salary hardship.
Cappy Dick

Miami, FL

#7 Jul 7, 2010
I think most of you are missing the boat on this one. To start with, the Nurses were not being "Greedy" to try and hold onto the pension benefits. These benefits were already negotiated years ago and the Nurses had to give up other things to get those benefits. These aren't new and Nurses getting ready or close to retirement are relying on these to support their Families. To call wage increases greedy is absurd as well considering most people pay plumbers and electricians up to 100.00 and hour but begrudge a Nurse who may need to jump-start you and wade through blood and vomit for 35.00 an hour as very short sighted. C'mon, these are professional care givers and not capitolists. I am not an Nurse but know a couple of them and realize what they face everyday in ER's and other areas and when their care concentration has been stretched due to a large influx of new patience, then care deterioates rapidly and a chance of improper care is more evident. The choice to continue to fight for staffing levels is a brave one and I hope the public gets behinds these tireless workers before one of your loved ones is the victim of slack staffing rules.

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lostlineman

Clearwater, MN

#9 Jul 7, 2010
cappy dick..

i dont know one electrician that makes 100$ an hour.. the company they work for may charge that but i am pretty sure the hospital charges more than their hourly wage for a nurse ... good arguement though just accept the fact that they made themselves look like idiots!!! dont join them sir!!!
I am not

Rochester, MN

#11 Jul 7, 2010
Cappy Dick wrote:
I think most of you are missing the boat on this one. To start with, the Nurses were not being "Greedy" to try and hold onto the pension benefits. These benefits were already negotiated years ago and the Nurses had to give up other things to get those benefits. These aren't new and Nurses getting ready or close to retirement are relying on these to support their Families. To call wage increases greedy is absurd as well considering most people pay plumbers and electricians up to 100.00 and hour but begrudge a Nurse who may need to jump-start you and wade through blood and vomit for 35.00 an hour as very short sighted. C'mon, these are professional care givers and not capitolists. I am not an Nurse but know a couple of them and realize what they face everyday in ER's and other areas and when their care concentration has been stretched due to a large influx of new patience, then care deterioates rapidly and a chance of improper care is more evident. The choice to continue to fight for staffing levels is a brave one and I hope the public gets behinds these tireless workers before one of your loved ones is the victim of slack staffing rules.
"I am not a nurse but I know a couple of them". If you are not a nurse then you DON'T know what they go through. My daughter-in-law is a nurse and my mother was a nurse and I don't know what they go through after being around them for years.I do know about contract negotiations. There is give and take on both sides. I am glad the nurses and hospitals could come to an agreement in the end, Good work to all involved.
Sandy

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Jul 7, 2010
It is a shame that the nurses union did not get the patient staffing balance that they rightfully sought.

But no contract is ever what both sides want.

Hopefully the hospitals will now be forced to finally address this important issue of adequate nursing coverage, which DOES strongly affect patient care.
Kathy L

Chanhassen, MN

#14 Jul 7, 2010
Sandy wrote:
It is a shame that the nurses union did not get the patient staffing balance that they rightfully sought.
But no contract is ever what both sides want.
Hopefully the hospitals will now be forced to finally address this important issue of adequate nursing coverage, which DOES strongly affect patient care.
Boy are You EZ,,, It never was about Patient/Staffing balance, They just used that for People like you who have No Clue your being Do-oped.... If your Buying.. Its Hot out side,,, Must be Global Warming,,,Need Tax to Fix ASAP,,,,,,,
oh no

Minneapolis, MN

#15 Jul 7, 2010
So we get to deal with this again in 3 years? That's just great!
wtf

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Jul 7, 2010
The new contract will stretch through May 31, 2013. Nurses say they will take their quest for mandated staffing ratios to the Legislature.

They just won't let that go will they.
Rusty Shackelford

Faribault, MN

#17 Jul 7, 2010
wtf wrote:
The new contract will stretch through May 31, 2013. Nurses say they will take their quest for mandated staffing ratios to the Legislature.
They just won't let that go will they.
No Mr or Ms Asterisks, they won't let that go! Nor should they.
Cop Out

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Jul 7, 2010
Just like there was a 90% vote to do whatever the union bosses told them to do last time.

Just proves it was all about money, and the nurses had no clue what was going on - just following orders.
Rusty Shakcelford

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Jul 7, 2010
No matter what you think of me,,, you have to admit, I know NOTHING! I see NOTHING! I know NOTHING! Actung!
Money RN

Minneapolis, MN

#23 Jul 7, 2010
When can we expect an apology from the MNA RN's??? It was all about the money...
Wow

Minneapolis, MN

#24 Jul 7, 2010
Just as expected...first sign of a raise they bail on the patients!
Wanta

Lake Hiawatha, NJ

#26 Jul 7, 2010
What a joke!! Patient care, ie nurse to patient ratio, was supposed to be the nurses #1 reason for striking.........the hospitals didn't budge on this "demand" yet the nurses approved the contract. What a bunch of hypocrits......lost total respect for these supposed professionals..........money does talk under the guise of patient care..........
Swede - Safety Advocate

United States

#27 Jul 7, 2010
Safe patient care concerns also included keeping wording in the contract allowing a nurse to refuse an assignment, based upon safety concerns. Admin sought to remove this safeguard. It has been my observation that unscrupulous companies or managers use a technique of intentionally putting employees in situations where they may fail. MNA successfully stood against this latent attempt to mistreat their members, disguised as a cost cutting measure.
observer

United States

#28 Jul 7, 2010
deception was used in campaign of public manipulation of stated reasons for striking and negotiating.

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