Mendocino County drug bust leads to s...

Mendocino County drug bust leads to shoot-out, death

There are 94 comments on the Eureka Times Standard story from Aug 19, 2010, titled Mendocino County drug bust leads to shoot-out, death. In it, Eureka Times Standard reports that:

Law enforcement officers serving a search warrant on Wednesday shot and killed a man in a marijuana garden and exchanged fire with four others.

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Lol

United States

#2 Aug 19, 2010
Nice reporting.

According to the article,the cops saw a guy with a rifle, so they killed him.

Bs.
Ponder z

Eureka, CA

#3 Aug 19, 2010
peaceful loving marijuana. only peace can com from peaceful marijuana. the police are attacking innocent medical marijuana users. that has to be the truth.
Ponder z

Eureka, CA

#4 Aug 19, 2010
Yea I think the Mexican drug cartel is cashing in on the Mendocino grow scene. And we all know how they like to shoot at cops. Soon it will be like Jurez.
Freethinker

Beverly Hills, CA

#5 Aug 19, 2010
MJ should be legalized or decriminalized nationwide. When it is illegal, it leads to violence. Being illegal means the Mexican drug thugs can use it to fund other operations - like kidnapping and trafficking women into prostitution on both sides of the border. They reported a huge grow in Wisconsin on national forest land recently. Nothing can be peaceful when big money is involved.
Domino 21

Palo Cedro, CA

#6 Aug 19, 2010
OK pot fans, How exactly was this violence not started by the growers? Pull out the "medicine" and "sacred plant", and "natural" line to get around this one. And if they are willing to shoot at cops, do you think a hiker would stand a chance? Since we do not know I will admit that it might be a Cartel grow, but isn't a grow a grow?
billybob

Hayward, CA

#8 Aug 19, 2010
Domino 21 wrote:
OK pot fans, How exactly was this violence not started by the growers? Pull out the "medicine" and "sacred plant", and "natural" line to get around this one. And if they are willing to shoot at cops, do you think a hiker would stand a chance? Since we do not know I will admit that it might be a Cartel grow, but isn't a grow a grow?
Remember, if you make something illegal and restrict access to it then it's value increases. Remember prohibition and the millionaires that it created? This is a great reason to legalize it. If you don't wan't to use it, then don't. Will there be people that abuse the use of marijuana? Of course justg like there are people that abuse the use of alcohol, vicodin and other legal drugs. I don't want the cops to get shot while trying to enforce these ridiculous and puritanical laws. And I really don't want to give the illegal aliens a reason to set up shop in our forests.
YourPal

Arcata, CA

#9 Aug 19, 2010
Displaced foreign workers.......
REALITY

Charleston, WV

#11 Aug 19, 2010
Ponder z wrote:
peaceful loving marijuana. only peace can com from peaceful marijuana. the police are attacking innocent medical marijuana users. that has to be the truth.
People are dying from marijuana because it is worth A LOT of money. It is worth A LOT of money because it is ILLEGAL. How many times does this have to get repeated until you idiots get it! If someone robs a pharmacy for oxycontin it is baceause they are dope fiends trying to get a fix. If someone robs a pot garden it is because they want the money, not the weed.(although they may buy oxycontin with the proceeds from the sale)

The economy is rough right now and people are dying all over the country because of violent people seeking MONEY. Anything that is worth a lot of money....and is easy to sell....will be a target of violent thieves and illegal production. Why do you think they make armored cars to deliver money?

I don't get why you idiots can't make a parallel connection between alcohol prohibition (al capone) and marijuana prohibition (mexican cartel) It is basically the same story 80 years later. Oh....only a few minor differences: 1. Pot is WAY easier to grow than booze is to make. 2. A gram of weed goes further than a 5th of whiskey (cheap and easy transport) 3. excluding the DRUG WAR that is going on, Alcohol use causes WAY more violence than MJ use. 4. It's easier to get a bag of pot today than it was to get a bottle of whiskey during prohibition.

The war has been lost and it is a waste of money to continue fighting it when our schools don't have enough money to buy books and computers and toilet paper. Please encourage our leaders to fund the children not the drug war. Preventative education goes much further than eradication. Holland has the lowest teenage MJ use in all of europe and its LEGAL there. 100's of millions of dollars are wasted every year because of cannabis related encarceration. Save the tax money to lock up Rapists, Murderers, and violent criminals. Save the tax money to control the national border where TONS of cocaine, heroin, meth, and ecstasy are coming in EVERY day. get with the program people!
THE ONLY WAY TO STOP THIS PROBLEM IS TO VOTE YES ON PROP 19!
REALITY

Charleston, WV

#13 Aug 19, 2010
Domino 21 wrote:
OK pot fans, How exactly was this violence not started by the growers? Pull out the "medicine" and "sacred plant", and "natural" line to get around this one. And if they are willing to shoot at cops, do you think a hiker would stand a chance? Since we do not know I will admit that it might be a Cartel grow, but isn't a grow a grow?
It's the money that causes the violence stupid. Store and banks get robbed EVERY SINGLE DAY. You don't hear people saying. "Oh those darn stores and banks cause so much violence....shut them all down"

And you said "isn't a grow a grow" . I would say their is a big difference between a grow with four illegals with AK 47's and a "mom and pops" hippy grow. If you read the original article posted in the Ukiah news. Allman states that this TYPE of grow was unheard of a few years ago. So apparently the sheriff of Mendocino doesn't think "a grows a grow"
just me

West Sacramento, CA

#15 Aug 19, 2010
I am on the line about Prop 19. I was raise to think of it as a drug. Never used it. And I don't want to be around it while it is being smoked. Smelly. I do agree with the medical use. But little by little I am understanding the need to legalize it. I just need a little more convincing. It would help to understand both sides if the paper would write pros and cons by someone who doesn't have an agenda.
Tyso

United States

#16 Aug 19, 2010
It's not surprising. Over the past 6-8 years the organized Mexican National grows have been occuring on government and private lands in Humboldt and Mendocino Counties.
glad no coppers got hurt.
Middle of the road

Rancho Cordova, CA

#18 Aug 19, 2010
Wow, none of thie would have happened if pot was legal!
Ben

United States

#19 Aug 19, 2010
billybob wrote:
<quoted text>Remember, if you make something illegal and restrict access to it then it's value increases. Remember prohibition and the millionaires that it created? This is a great reason to legalize it. If you don't wan't to use it, then don't. Will there be people that abuse the use of marijuana? Of course justg like there are people that abuse the use of alcohol, vicodin and other legal drugs. I don't want the cops to get shot while trying to enforce these ridiculous and puritanical laws. And I really don't want to give the illegal aliens a reason to set up shop in our forests.
I think you are the most intelligent person on this post. I totally agree.
Maria

Palo Alto, CA

#20 Aug 19, 2010
We love being a doped involved society and it always seems to attract the those on the Dark Side, Left, more then anyone single other entity. Good job! Glad no officers were injured.
Domino 21

Cupertino, CA

#21 Aug 19, 2010
For those of that think this wouldn't happen if pot was legal, ever heard of moonshiners? They are still a problem back East. If you could grow your weed and sell it without paying taxes, why wouldn't you. You've been a criminal for years already, you are used to breaking the law. That is the proverbial you.
Chupacabra

Santa Cruz, CA

#22 Aug 19, 2010
Domino 21 wrote:
OK pot fans, How exactly was this violence not started by the growers? Pull out the "medicine" and "sacred plant", and "natural" line to get around this one. And if they are willing to shoot at cops, do you think a hiker would stand a chance? Since we do not know I will admit that it might be a Cartel grow, but isn't a grow a grow?
It is a cartel grow. And a grow is not just a grow. This one is armed foreign nationals. An invasion. Act of War.
loleta dude

Seaside, CA

#23 Aug 19, 2010
John Foegerty put it best 48 years ago: "Get you a glass of water, make it against the law. See how good the water tastes when you can have any at all."
moonshine

San Francisco, CA

#24 Aug 19, 2010
Domino 21 wrote:
For those of that think this wouldn't happen if pot was legal, ever heard of moonshiners? They are still a problem back East. If you could grow your weed and sell it without paying taxes, why wouldn't you. You've been a criminal for years already, you are used to breaking the law. That is the proverbial you.
Actually it is likely no one here has heard of it. Why? Because it has not been a problem since the prohibition. Which BTW is exactly their point.

“Wonderz was Taken”

Since: Mar 10

Redwud Curtn, behind it

#25 Aug 19, 2010
Domino 21 wrote:
For those of that think this wouldn't happen if pot was legal, ever heard of moonshiners? They are still a problem back East. If you could grow your weed and sell it without paying taxes, why wouldn't you. You've been a criminal for years already, you are used to breaking the law. That is the proverbial you.
You'll have to support that "moonshiners are still a problem" statement with some evidence, methinks, cuz it sounds like bull pucky to me and a few others here.
Texas Born

Eureka, CA

#26 Aug 19, 2010
moonshine wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually it is likely no one here has heard of it. Why? Because it has not been a problem since the prohibition. Which BTW is exactly their point.
Alcohol prohibition ended in the thirties - 1932 ?? and in 1978 the Federal Bureau of Prisons listed over 500 moonshiners/bootleggers in custody with another 2500 "shiners" on parole and probation.That's just the Feds?Include all the "Nascar states" state & county prisoners for bootlegging related arrests and convictions and the numbers were in the tens of thousands.Forty Years later???????

There are still dry counties all over the USA.Liquor is still sold in state operated stores in Oregon.Try buying a bottle of Vodka after 8:00 pm anywhere in Oregon?Legally?
Sometimes California forgets it's part of the USA - and Mendocino & Humboldt especially so!

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