OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#34989 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
Well so far I donot see the need nor feel the ned to pack a gun 24/7. Most of the violent shooting are from people that have gotten their guns illegally. One thing that needs to be put a stop to is the way guns are sold at the gun shows. Even before states made it legal to buy and carry guns any Tom/Dick/Harry could buy a gun with out a back ground check at any gun show. So people can get their hands on a gun without a back ground check if they want one bad enough. But so far the majority of kids are not being raised at grade school age to carry a gun. The shootings that are done by under age kids their parent are as much at fault as the kid that does the shooting. Just like this last school shooting. The kid got the guns from his mother which took the kid shooting with her and she seemed to know this kids had mental problems. I still would not like this country to be like most ME countries. If you people think these M countries are better than this country then I wonder why they are not living there instead of here!
Those ME countries use religion as their means to keep their power. There is only one party here in the US that always use Religion when they want to stir the populace up. And that's not the Dems. And it's pretty safe to say that Religion only advocates for one party now and that's the Republican party.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34990 Jan 6, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Those ME countries use religion as their means to keep their power. There is only one party here in the US that always use Religion when they want to stir the populace up. And that's not the Dems. And it's pretty safe to say that Religion only advocates for one party now and that's the Republican party.
You maybe if people got back to believing in God there just might be less violence in this country. When God has been forbidden to be allow in so many places that is when I noticed people becoming more violent. When pride in our country was taken out of many places that is when I saw more people disrespecting this country. So you go ahead and blame all what's wrong with the U. S. on one party.

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#34991 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>You maybe if people got back to believing in God there just might be less violence in this country. When God has been forbidden to be allow in so many places that is when I noticed people becoming more violent. When pride in our country was taken out of many places that is when I saw more people disrespecting this country. So you go ahead and blame all what's wrong with the U. S. on one party.
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You might have a good point there about there being less violence when we believe in God.

Jesus said:

Luke 11:21 "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house,his goods are in peace."

However, the saying is God AND country, not God IS country. That's some other place you're thinking about where Theocracy sways the day, and still there is no peace.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34992 Jan 6, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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You might have a good point there about there being less violence when we believe in God.
Jesus said:
Luke 11:21 "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house,his goods are in peace."
However, the saying is God AND country, not God IS country. That's some other place you're thinking about where Theocracy sways the day, and still there is no peace.
Right now it is not God and Country ot Gid is Country. I do agree it is God and Country. But now days that is not allow here anymore. Like a few on here seem to be saying if you believe in God then you are taking this country down. I believe when so many decided believing in God was no longer cool our country was on it's way down.

Since: Jul 10

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#34993 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Right now it is not God and Country ot Gid is Country. I do agree it is God and Country. But now days that is not allow here anymore. Like a few on here seem to be saying if you believe in God then you are taking this country down. I believe when so many decided believing in God was no longer cool our country was on it's way down.
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God AND country indicates two different agendas, two different entities. A separation. A secular and a spiritual.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#34994 Jan 6, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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God AND country indicates two different agendas, two different entities. A separation. A secular and a spiritual.
I understand that. But when people do not do the right and moral things then that starts them down paths of wrongs. Not believeing in God then they seem to think they donnot have to be accountable for their actions. I donot care who you are it happens. And I believe our government is walking down that path and has for some time. I believe alot of people are walking down that path. I believe this is why so many donot give it a second thought to handle problems by violence. You pist me off so they think I 'll do you in and thats what they do. I think in alot of cases children are not being given structure in their lives. I believe alot people actually donot know how to parent so our young generation will not grow up with good morals.

Since: Jul 10

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#34995 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I understand that. But when people do not do the right and moral things then that starts them down paths of wrongs. Not believeing in God then they seem to think they donnot have to be accountable for their actions. I donot care who you are it happens. And I believe our government is walking down that path and has for some time. I believe alot of people are walking down that path. I believe this is why so many donot give it a second thought to handle problems by violence. You pist me off so they think I 'll do you in and thats what they do. I think in alot of cases children are not being given structure in their lives. I believe alot people actually donot know how to parent so our young generation will not grow up with good morals.
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People that don't believe in a God and who are not religious do the right thing all the time. They don't steal. They don't do murder, rape, robbery, they believe in strong family units, education, well behaved children. They are governed by the SECULAR rule-of-law which is suppposed to be the one thing that unites us all whether believer or non-believer.
Elohimsokie

Ringold, OK

#34996 Jan 6, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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People that don't believe in a God and who are not religious do the right thing all the time. They don't steal. They don't do murder, rape, robbery, they believe in strong family units, education, well behaved children. They are governed by the SECULAR rule-of-law which is suppposed to be the one thing that unites us all whether believer or non-believer.
So, I guess you know all these poeple and keep up with them.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#34997 Jan 6, 2013
Elohimsokie wrote:
<quoted text>So, I guess you know all these poeple and keep up with them.
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It's elementary partner, everyone does not believe in a God and they are not out violating the law, no more than are Christians and Jews.
Elohimsokie

Ringold, OK

#34998 Jan 6, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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It's elementary partner, everyone does not believe in a God and they are not out violating the law, no more than are Christians and Jews.
Impossible, you don't know everyone and what their doing.

Since: Jul 10

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#34999 Jan 6, 2013
Elohimsokie wrote:
<quoted text>Impossible, you don't know everyone and what their doing.
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Not necessary to personally know them. Bet you deny the exstence of Abraham Lincoln and his life, since you didn't personally know him. Knowedge is attainable by more than experiential(look it up)means.
Elohimsokie

Ringold, OK

#35000 Jan 6, 2013
Lincoln was killed because he was doing away with the fedaral reserve.
Lincoln offered the blacks a free boat ride back to Africa.
Lincolns wife went crazy.
I know alot about Lincoln.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#35001 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>You maybe if people got back to believing in God there just might be less violence in this country. When God has been forbidden to be allow in so many places that is when I noticed people becoming more violent. When pride in our country was taken out of many places that is when I saw more people disrespecting this country. So you go ahead and blame all what's wrong with the U. S. on one party.
Where has god been forbidden?

And whose God anyway? The Jews God? The Buddhist God? The Anglo-Saxon God?

Pride in our country, it's easy to have pride in our country but when you fail to acknowledge the problems it has then it's kind of hollow.

Also God had something to say about pride also.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35002 Jan 6, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Where has god been forbidden?
And whose God anyway? The Jews God? The Buddhist God? The Anglo-Saxon God?
Pride in our country, it's easy to have pride in our country but when you fail to acknowledge the problems it has then it's kind of hollow.
Also God had something to say about pride also.
It seems to me that I have acknowledged the problems but I can see where both parties are resposible where you only blame the Republicans. Both parties are at fault to what is going on with this countries problems.
Elohimsokie

Broken Bow, OK

#35003 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>It seems to me that I have acknowledged the problems but I can see where both parties are resposible where you only blame the Republicans. Both parties are at fault to what is going on with this countries problems.
People are so left right brainwashed they can't debate someone who isn't a dem. or repub.
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#35004 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>It seems to me that I have acknowledged the problems but I can see where both parties are resposible where you only blame the Republicans. Both parties are at fault to what is going on with this countries problems.
Exactly what is the dem problem?

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#35005 Jan 6, 2013
Elohimsokie wrote:
Lincoln was killed because he was doing away with the fedaral reserve.
Lincoln offered the blacks a free boat ride back to Africa.
Lincolns wife went crazy.
I know alot about Lincoln.
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You didn't see it and according to what you told me about who believes in God and who does not, one cannot know hat unless they personally experienced all of those people. You must be a 150+ years old.

Now go ahead and dig yourself in deeper.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#35006 Jan 6, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I understand that. But when people do not do the right and moral things then that starts them down paths of wrongs. Not believeing in God then they seem to think they donnot have to be accountable for their actions. I donot care who you are it happens. And I believe our government is walking down that path and has for some time. I believe alot of people are walking down that path. I believe this is why so many donot give it a second thought to handle problems by violence. You pist me off so they think I 'll do you in and thats what they do. I think in alot of cases children are not being given structure in their lives. I believe alot people actually donot know how to parent so our young generation will not grow up with good morals.
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>>>Not believeing in God then they seem to think they donnot have to be accountable for their actions.<<

You could just as easily say, and be right, that Christians believing they are saved and have eternal life, think they don't have to be accountable for their action.
Elohimsokie

Broken Bow, OK

#35007 Jan 6, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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You didn't see it and according to what you told me about who believes in God and who does not, one cannot know hat unless they personally experienced all of those people. You must be a 150+ years old.
Now go ahead and dig yourself in deeper.
History books,duh.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#35008 Jan 6, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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>>>Not believeing in God then they seem to think they donnot have to be accountable for their actions.<<
You could just as easily say, and be right, that Christians believing they are saved and have eternal life, think they don't have to be accountable for their action.
Then I must be in the minority because I know I have to be accountable for my actions. I am not perfect and I donot get up in the mornings with the intent to do wrong but sometimes I do something wrong and if i hurt someone I don't just ask for Gods forgiveness but whom ever I did hurt if possible. If a Christians believes just because he is saved and he doesnot have to be accountalbe for his/her actions then I believe they are not truly saved and a Christian.

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