Good grief

Danville, KY

#1 Jul 23, 2012
Our government is broke but they keep handing out money to the same people to go to college over and over again. These same people never finish or even go for that matter. They take the money and run. In fact, its the only reason they sign up in the first place. Try working at a bank...you see it all. They cash it in and use it for whatever they want never step foot in class. How do they do it over and over again? I know someone who has been to school for at least 3 different careers and probably more. Never finished one.

You know who you are.
Kentucky Girl

Columbus, OH

#2 Jul 24, 2012
And the kids who are really trying to go to college to make something of themselves can't get a damned penny of assistance!!!!
tralala

United States

#3 Jul 29, 2012
Yes! I know a kid whose getting over 7000 a semester back just to go to BCTC what kid needs that much money a semester with their books and school payed for. I know so many who can't get as much just because their parents aren't divorced but their parents are still broke! It makes absolutely no sense. I couldn't get the pell grant because apparently my dad made too much money having a 2nd job.. But he had a second job cause we needed more money for payments for hospital bills for my mom. People don't get a 2nd job for fun!!
surely___

United States

#4 Jul 30, 2012
when i read comments as these makes me proud to have been a Reagan supporter. He believed in fiscal responsibility & tried to do something about these government programs. Unfortunately he was not successful in reducing spending by much because most democrats,(especially those as Pelosi & Obama); & too many moderate republicans,(as bush1 & 2) didn't have character enough to try & do what's best for the people. There is only one source to blame for these giveaway $$$ & the 16 trillion dollar deficit we've racked up........the voters. Can't blame Obama or the Bush's, for we the people gave them the power to give us all a debt that most likely will never be repaid. When China wakes up & cuts us off as the USA cut off aid to the USSR, our country will collasped just as quickly. Don't worry though, all the citizens will not be going anywhere,(literally), for we the people will not have to read about the inflation & souplines of years gone by; there will PLENTY of both.
A Conservative Liberal

New Albany, IN

#5 Aug 9, 2012
In every system there are abusers. Whether you are rich, or poor, highly intelligent or require living assistance, motivated or lazy. Look around you. The government offers federal funding to kids who wouldn't get to go otherwise. WOULD NOT GET TO GO. PERIOD. I apologize if that seemed like me yelling, or being angry. It was not. However it was me trying to get you to pay attention to the important part. There are bells of truth in your wolf call though, and I do commend you for recognizing a few important flaws in system. Yes, there are people who draw back money from grants and student loans when their courses have been paid for the semester. Do you want to know why? It's because student loans are meant to cover the costs a student must cover in order to attend school. Hmm...the costs... Like living somewhere safe! Oh yea :D and eating food that nourishes your brain, and having a dependable way to get to school. Many of these students would be unable to provide these things for themselves while also performing well in school.(And I know how that goes.)
Now, so you don't think I'm being rude or attempting to start a battle of the wills, I do say that I agree with you, some students use their money inappropriately. Some students "milk it for all its got". Those students usually do not fare well; because they don't want the education. They don't appreciate the gift. The people who do though? There are many people who work their way through college, there's nothing wrong with that as long as it allows you to put school first, and many people can make the gaps meet between scholarship and their and their parents contribution. How is that unfair? Or even to the amount the student whos parents do not make enough to contribute anything? Is it RIGHT or FAIR for them to have to live their lives the same way as their parents? Hard work is honest, I am proud of everyone who can say they do; but some jobs you live to work and no one wants that for their kids, no matter how honorable.
As a extra note I would like to subjectively say,(as a republican), who was it, again, who created the largest budget excess in American history..? Oh right..it was Clinton. Bill Clinton. An imperfect man, with a respectable dream for his nation, who also had one of the largest group of public reach projects in American history.
All in all, I may be wrong on some points, my true judgement marred by personal experience, and the desire to allow everyone the chance to thrive in this life; but none of us have been right so far, or these problems would have been solved a long time ago. I wish everyone the best of luck in their scholarly pursuits. To those who are blessed with funding: be wise, use it well. It IS a blessing. To those who are struggling: Don't give up, don't ever give up. To those who haven't yet found a way: keep searching. Talk to people who have and take their advice. It all looks better in the end :)
pandy

United States

#6 Aug 9, 2012
A Conservative Liberal wrote:
In every system there are abusers. Whether you are rich, or poor, highly intelligent or require living assistance, motivated or lazy. Look around you. The government offers federal funding to kids who wouldn't get to go otherwise. WOULD NOT GET TO GO. PERIOD. I apologize if that seemed like me yelling, or being angry. It was not. However it was me trying to get you to pay attention to the important part. There are bells of truth in your wolf call though, and I do commend you for recognizing a few important flaws in system. Yes, there are people who draw back money from grants and student loans when their courses have been paid for the semester. Do you want to know why? It's because student loans are meant to cover the costs a student must cover in order to attend school. Hmm...the costs... Like living somewhere safe! Oh yea :D and eating food that nourishes your brain, and having a dependable way to get to school. Many of these students would be unable to provide these things for themselves while also performing well in school.(And I know how that goes.)
Now, so you don't think I'm being rude or attempting to start a battle of the wills, I do say that I agree with you, some students use their money inappropriately. Some students "milk it for all its got". Those students usually do not fare well; because they don't want the education. They don't appreciate the gift. The people who do though? There are many people who work their way through college, there's nothing wrong with that as long as it allows you to put school first, and many people can make the gaps meet between scholarship and their and their parents contribution. How is that unfair? Or even to the amount the student whos parents do not make enough to contribute anything? Is it RIGHT or FAIR for them to have to live their lives the same way as their parents? Hard work is honest, I am proud of everyone who can say they do; but some jobs you live to work and no one wants that for their kids, no matter how honorable.
As a extra note I would like to subjectively say,(as a republican), who was it, again, who created the largest budget excess in American history..? Oh right..it was Clinton. Bill Clinton. An imperfect man, with a respectable dream for his nation, who also had one of the largest group of public reach projects in American history.
All in all, I may be wrong on some points, my true judgement marred by personal experience, and the desire to allow everyone the chance to thrive in this life; but none of us have been right so far, or these problems would have been solved a long time ago. I wish everyone the best of luck in their scholarly pursuits. To those who are blessed with funding: be wise, use it well. It IS a blessing. To those who are struggling: Don't give up, don't ever give up. To those who haven't yet found a way: keep searching. Talk to people who have and take their advice. It all looks better in the end :)
Well, we see you were one of those lucky ones.. Thanks for the kind words though.
A Conservative Liberal

New Albany, IN

#7 Aug 14, 2012
Actually, I worked for my academic scholarships, along with working multiple jobs all through college; and I was taught you never take more than you need. Thus, the reason my student loans were less than $5,000 for my whole collegiate career. By doing that I allowed more people who didn't have institution offered scholarships to receive federal funding. Having a more highly educated America benefits us all.
Good grief

Danville, KY

#8 Aug 15, 2012
My point being..after the 3rd time enough is enough. No more help! There are many out there who deserve the help. Once someone has gone to school on the governments dollar..or at least taken the governments dollar..whether they went or not..and didn't finish after three times..they shouldn't get the help again. There ARE much more deserving people who really DO want an education and may not be able to get the money to go because of this abuse of the system!!
As a student
#9 Aug 16, 2012
Its loans and grants that pay for their school. Grants are for people that are low-income and never have to be paid back, but loans do and you can only take out 50,000 in total. It will eventually catch up to them when the school says "you took out to many loans and will have to pay for school yourself." Yes, if there is money left over from the cost of everything(tuition, books, ect) then the student can choose to get the money sent to them. The school is suppose to remind them that if they do choose to get the money to remember that they will still over for the rest until they graduate and to consider if it will be covered. My school(which i think others schools should do) break the payments up into a session. So one session = one class, and you get say $500, then the next class you get $600 and so on until you meet the amount you wanted. Basically breaking up the money into payments. Not all students just blow their school money either. I actually use this money on stuff I need, like pens, paper and other things that I have to get for school. If anything is left, I pay some on the loans that I owe on and then pay bills.
stupid

Shelbyville, KY

#10 Aug 17, 2012
Yes these grants are getting insane. For example, wife and I went to college, did what we had to do to go there. Earned some scholarships but worked with some minor loans to pay through school. Now we don't qualify for help for our kids because we earn too much money. Not enough money to be wealthy but enough money to have a home and still live paycheck to paycheck. No, we don't drive fancy cards or wear fancy stuff. I have worked two jobs for years to cover expenses.

Then I find out that I know a woman whose kid gets to go through college free because she doesn't make enough. She went to private college, decided to drop out before finishing, buying a home, been through a lot of things but is divorced and has a decent job that many would love to have. However, she has no motivation to better herself these days.

Something is wrong when the people who bust their butt to make a living, pay bills, and provide for their family without living on govt. assistance cant get help for their kids on the honor roll to go to college.
As a student

Frankfort, KY

#11 Aug 31, 2012
I completely understand where you are coming from. I agree that it is not fair, but you know I always heard "that's life for ya"...not always fair but its life. We make enough to survive and barley get by but we make too much money to get any help whatsoever, so I really do understand where you are coming from. I do not go to a college in Kentucky, I go out of state and online only.

But it will eventually catch up to these people. I know a guy that dropped out too, still working fast food, lives at home with mommy and daddy (and hes like 28). He has to pay for what he took out and hasnt paid them a cent, but guess what happens...after a while, if they are working: the school that they owe can and will take from their check or IRS payment. Good luck to all of you

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