did kentucky really pass the drug testing law for welfare recipents?

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Lawrenceburg, KY

#1 Aug 15, 2011
Does anyone know?
Hi there

United States

#2 Aug 15, 2011
I sure hope so, but I have not hear that they did.
help

Lawrenceburg, KY

#3 Aug 15, 2011
Me to I'm just waiting to hear for sure
Unknown

Frankfort, KY

#4 Aug 15, 2011
I sure hope so. We need that to happen more then god knows. We have so many people taking advantage of our systems. It's about time something is done about it!!
The Old Crow

Lawrenceburg, KY

#5 Aug 16, 2011
It has passed in KY. and FL., however the current loophole is they will be notified prior to testing. That's the government for you. Got to just love em.
Hopeful

Antioch, IL

#6 Aug 16, 2011
Well I'm sure glad it has. I think it's ridiculous for people to use their welfare money (That WE help pay for) on drugs.

Get off the drugs, get off your ass, and go find a job. Who cares if it's minimum wage, at least it's something.
country

Lawrenceburg, KY

#7 Apr 25, 2012
http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/teens-turn-h ... lets go drug Nazi's time to ban hand sanitizers lets get motivated call your congressmen we can't have this vote no on this dangerous product there selling our kids. Time to make a list of everybody who has this in there homes.
justme

Lawrenceburg, KY

#8 Apr 25, 2012
No. It did not pass.
hmm

Lexington, KY

#9 Apr 25, 2012
They wouldnt pass it anyway because its against the constitution.
country

Lawrenceburg, KY

#10 Apr 25, 2012
hmm wrote:
They wouldnt pass it anyway because its against the constitution.
Really the patriot is in direct conflict with the 4th amendment they passed that only one person in all of congress stood up to this Ron Paul even the Supreme court up held it. The freedoms you have are just an illusion. This is a police state if you don't believe it watch this your government in action. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/security...
hmm

Lexington, KY

#11 Apr 25, 2012
I dont think they should be drug tested but i thingk that the policy needs to be more strict.
Aaron

Ann Arbor, MI

#12 Apr 26, 2012
hmm wrote:
They wouldnt pass it anyway because its against the constitution.
No it does NOT. Welfare recipents are not forced to take a fee handout! It's called making the freeloaders take some responsablity! No one that is paying taxes and has any brain would want their hard earned money to go to someone so they can buy drugs!
Ironic

Waddy, KY

#13 Apr 26, 2012
I could not agree more. I do not understand how these welfare recipients can say that it is unconstitutional for them to be drug tested. They have volunteered to be on this government program. Our military is randomly drug tested, other people that actually work are drug tested. So what is the problem. If you don't want to take a drug test, get off welfare.

I got this in an E-mail:

Isn't It Ironic?

The food stamp program, part of the Department of Agriculture, is pleased to be distributing the greatest amount of food stamps ever.(Over 46 Million recipients)

Meanwhile, the Park Service, also part of the Department of Agriculture, asks us to "please do not feed the animals" because the animals may grow dependent and not learn to take care of themselves.
Aaron

Ann Arbor, MI

#14 Apr 26, 2012
Saying "it unconstitutional" is a way for them to justify it and come up with something they think sounds good. It's not a legitamit argument or point. They just want to have their cake and eat it too.
I like your Dept. or Agric. saying. I have seen it too with a picture of a bear sitting by a picnic table. Good stuff !
hmm

Lexington, KY

#15 Apr 26, 2012
Just for the record I am not on welfare and there are some points i see reasonable for forcing people to take a drug test for welfare assistance but there are also some drawbacks. For one is expensive to drug test every person trying to receive welfare benefits. It cost the state about $42 for each test, tough on states especially since most of their budgets arnt in great shape. Two some people see it violates the 4th Amendment that states unlawful searches. And third, it could mean other types of searches for different assistant programs. Example: In halting the implementation of Michigan’s drug testing law, U.S. District Court Judge Victoria Roberts ruled that the state's rationale for testing welfare recipients “could be used for testing the parents of all children who received Medicaid, State Emergency Relief, educational grants or loans, public education or any other benefit from that State.”[18] Indeed, any of the justifications put forth to subject welfare recipients to random drug testing would also by logical extension apply to the entirety of our population that receives some public benefit and/or that is a parent. It is clear that our constitution – and common sense – would object to the random drug testing of this large group of people, making the drug testing of an equally absurd category of people – welfare recipients – unconstitutional as well.
Aaron

Ann Arbor, MI

#16 Apr 26, 2012
I will have to disagree with your "common sense - would object..." Also the recipeint would pay the testing fees, not the state. What the courts decide is one thing, but what would say to a person that walked up to you and asked you for cash because they wanted some money from your wallet to go buy some drugs.
Whocares

United States

#17 Apr 26, 2012
If they r there getting help then do u really thank there gonna have the 42 dollars to pay?
country

Lawrenceburg, KY

#18 Apr 26, 2012
Aaron wrote:
Saying "it unconstitutional" is a way for them to justify it and come up with something they think sounds good. It's not a legitamit argument or point. They just want to have their cake and eat it too.
I like your Dept. or Agric. saying. I have seen it too with a picture of a bear sitting by a picnic table. Good stuff !
I think they need to put cameras in our houses to make sure know one does anything but work eat and sleep. Anything that will get you high must come off the market gas, hand sanitizer, spray deodorant I mean everything. There is no ligament point one could make with you. You are a fascist government lackey and when you lose your rights you'll deserve what you get. Lord help you if something bad happens to you and you have to ask for help. Things have away off biting you in the a$$ wait and see.
Aaron

Ann Arbor, MI

#19 Apr 27, 2012
Whocares wrote:
If they r there getting help then do u really thank there gonna have the 42 dollars to pay?
Yes because they are getting a check. Look at people who have to wear an ankle bracelet for house arrest stuff. They are $25 per day and if you just got out or are on house arrest do you think you can afford roughly $750/ month for one? Funny thing is people find that $750/month all the time.
BTW the article I read said it was $17 not $42.
Aaron

Ann Arbor, MI

#20 Apr 27, 2012
country wrote:
<quoted text>I think they need to put cameras in our houses to make sure know one does anything but work eat and sleep. Anything that will get you high must come off the market gas, hand sanitizer, spray deodorant I mean everything. There is no ligament point one could make with you. You are a fascist government lackey and when you lose your rights you'll deserve what you get. Lord help you if something bad happens to you and you have to ask for help. Things have away off biting you in the a$$ wait and see.
A little angry are we...lol
If it's a legitament point I will listen, but going off on a red herring is not going to impress anyone I don't think.
"When I loose my rights"...well I plan, save, work hard and don't try to excape my responsabilities. Yes bad things happen to good people, but then again good people wouldn't mind submitting to a drug test for their free money. it's those that can't pass the drug screaning that are complaining.

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