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<quoted text> You got Robme leading Obama from a conservative website site a Red State internet site, really? HAAAAAA!,,,making up more lies.like this one:
http://www.redstate.com/california_yankee/201...
Establishment Republicans know that 2012 is lost for them. They know they have lost the WH. They have lost the House and they have lost seats in the Senate. They are already talking about who they will run in 2016. But the right wing media hasn't told the posters that they pay to post their talking points that so they continue to come here every day, post their talking points and collect their dimes. That Read More... is the only way the Republicans know how to create jobs
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Since Robney dodged the Viet Nam war and his 5 kids never served in the Armed Forces..it just rubs the Vets the wrong way..
Obama Leading Mitt Romney Among Veterans, 32 Percent Think Iraq War Ended Successfully: Poll
Maybe read this poll:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/14/obam...
Now we have a debate on which poll is correct until the cows come home,PLUS the women who served will vote for Obama in 2012.
While youre at it look at the electoral map on this site also:
Robme cant get to 270 votes no matter how you spin it..
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Drudge is pushing poll results that show a surprising tilt in favor of Romney: a 46-44 advantage among women registered voters.
I am puzzled, however, by a different poll that shows something different but equally surprising: a tilt in favor of Obama, but this time among the "veteran vote." According to Reuters, "If the election were held today, Obama would win the veteran vote by as much as seven points over Romney, higher than his margin in the general population."
Part of the explanation is the way Reuters defines "veteran vote" to include not only the veteran but also "families." Adding in the families dilutes a demographic (male) that traditionally trends Republican with demographics (youth and women) that traditionally trend Democratic.
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In all honesty the vets vote wont matter much in 2012 for either side!
You're even more clueless then I thought!
Gallup IS NOT a conservative website as you mentioned. Then you tell me check out Huffington post! Are you for nuts or just plain stupid? Huffington is left leaning and you criticize me for supposedly using a conservative site, when Gallup is not conservative.

You must have taken a few golf balls to the head!

Get with it!
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Obama's campaign manager has laid out four paths to electoral college victory for Obama...
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Back in December, Messina laid out publicly the ways that advantage gives Obama an upper hand when it comes to the Electoral College: four mathematical scenarios by which he could get to 270 while underperforming 2008.(A fifth scenario involved him expanding the playing field, about which more in a moment.)
The safe presumption underlying each is that Obama holds the nineteen states plus the District of Columbia that John Kerry won in 2004—which, recall, did not include Colorado, Florida, Indiana, Iowa, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, or Virginia, all of which Obama carried in 2008, giving the president a base of 246 electoral votes.
There’s the western path: Obama holds Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, and Iowa for a total of 272.
There’s the midwestern path: Obama holds Ohio and Iowa (270).
There’s the southern path: Obama holds North Carolina and Virginia (274).
And there’s the Florida path, in which Obama simply again takes the Sunshine State (275).
I ask Messina if all four avenues are still open.“Absolutely,” he replies.“The West path is completely operative. The Midwest is there; I believe that we’ll carry Ohio and Iowa. We lead in Virginia and North Carolina today; so that pathway’s there. We are tied in Florida; so that pathway’s there.”
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This is an amazing fact—and one that throws into stark relief the converse difficulties Romney will have in reaching the magic number. The dauntingness begins with his initial hurdle to surmount: clawing back at least six states Obama won last go-round.
Almost all of Romney’s 270 scenarios revolve around a strategy outlined by Karl Rove and dubbed “3-2-1,” in which the GOP reclaims three of the traditionally red states snatched away by Obama (Indiana, North Carolina, and Virginia), wins the two perennial mega swing states (Florida and Ohio), and then snags one more from among those up for grabs.
A senior Obama campaign official scoffs at the notion that Romney could pull off such a feat.“To get there,” he says,“they’ve got to take away either Pennsylvania or Michigan, and they can’t do either one of them.
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Regardless of national polling, an electoral college victory is nearly insurmountable for Romney. It's not even close.
But the media needs a horse race to keep people involved, so they'll continue reporting as if this is a close race.
So keep cherry-picking your polls and posting opinion pieces from rightwing commentators if that keeps the despair at bay, rightwingers. Deep down you know it just ain't gonna happen.
You and your buddy, West Mifflin, seem to have a problem with dates.

It's not December, hasn't been for 5 months! In those 5 months the electoral map has changed and is continuing to change. Romney is picking up speed and closing the gap.

Keep living in the past if it helps with your Obama fantasy of another term.

I'll say one thing positive about you...you are entertaining, if nothing else...you and your nutty friend from West Mifflin, two peas in a pod. Or should I say two nuts in a shell? That's more fitting of you two loons.
Dan the Man

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<quoted text>You and your buddy, West Mifflin, seem to have a problem with dates.
It's not December, hasn't been for 5 months! In those 5 months the electoral map has changed and is continuing to change. Romney is picking up speed and closing the gap.
Keep living in the past if it helps with your Obama fantasy of another term.
I'll say one thing positive about you...you are entertaining, if nothing else...you and your nutty friend from West Mifflin, two peas in a pod. Or should I say two nuts in a shell? That's more fitting of you two loons.
RTFA.

Messina laid out the four scenarios in December. The interview with him for this article was THIS month.

You might have picked up on that from these sentences:
"I ask Messina if all four avenues are still open.“Absolutely,” he replies.“The West path is completely operative. The Midwest is there; I believe that we’ll carry Ohio and Iowa. We lead in Virginia and North Carolina today; so that pathway’s there. We are tied in Florida; so that pathway’s there.”

See - the author asked Messina if the four scenarios he laid out in December are STILL open. That indicates that even now, today, currently those scenarios still work.

And STILL, Romney faces a daunting challenge to garner 270 votes. While some specific polling has changed, the overall dynamic is STILL the same.

I know how much you want to dismiss the fact that Obama has an easy path to electoral victory and Romney has a steep, steep clime. But making petty attacks on the dates the campaign first discussed the scenarios to victory for Obama just makes you look desperate.
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<quoted text>You're even more clueless then I thought!
Gallup IS NOT a conservative website as you mentioned. Then you tell me check out Huffington post! Are you for nuts or just plain stupid? Huffington is left leaning and you criticize me for supposedly using a conservative site, when Gallup is not conservative.
You must have taken a few golf balls to the head!
Get with it!
Second time posting this. First time I posted links like a dope and Topix deleted it...

There are some legitimate complaints about Gallup's conservative bias:

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Republican bias at Gallup?

What's going on? One clue can be found in looking at their reported party breakdown. In their late-September poll, they have 43% of repondents identifying as Republicans, and 31% as Democrats.

We've never seen anything like a twelve-point Republican lead anywhere else before.

A July New York Times/CBS poll reported the breakdown as 37% Democrat and 29% Republican, an eight-point Dem advantage. The exit polls in both the 2000 and 1996 elections reported the breakdown as 39% Democrat and 35% Republican, a four-point Dem advantage.(Independents were 25% of the Gallup universe, 30% of the Times/CBS universe, and 27% of the 2000 election's.)

Party affiliations change over time, for sure, but a sixteen- or twenty-point shift seems highly unlikely over the course of four years, much less two months.

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Does Gallup Poll Have a Pro-GOP Bias?

The average Democratic advantage in party identification in the Gallup Poll since June,+6, is substantially smaller than the average in every other major national poll.

In fact, no other major poll has shown that small a Democratic advantage even once during this time period. This is significant, of course, because party identification is very strongly correlated with opinions on other questions such as presidential approval, attitudes toward health care reform, and the generic ballot question.
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Dan the Man wrote:
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Second time posting this. First time I posted links like a dope and Topix deleted it...
There are some legitimate complaints about Gallup's conservative bias:
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Republican bias at Gallup?
What's going on? One clue can be found in looking at their reported party breakdown. In their late-September poll, they have 43% of repondents identifying as Republicans, and 31% as Democrats.
We've never seen anything like a twelve-point Republican lead anywhere else before.
A July New York Times/CBS poll reported the breakdown as 37% Democrat and 29% Republican, an eight-point Dem advantage. The exit polls in both the 2000 and 1996 elections reported the breakdown as 39% Democrat and 35% Republican, a four-point Dem advantage.(Independents were 25% of the Gallup universe, 30% of the Times/CBS universe, and 27% of the 2000 election's.)
Party affiliations change over time, for sure, but a sixteen- or twenty-point shift seems highly unlikely over the course of four years, much less two months.
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Does Gallup Poll Have a Pro-GOP Bias?
The average Democratic advantage in party identification in the Gallup Poll since June,+6, is substantially smaller than the average in every other major national poll.
In fact, no other major poll has shown that small a Democratic advantage even once during this time period. This is significant, of course, because party identification is very strongly correlated with opinions on other questions such as presidential approval, attitudes toward health care reform, and the generic ballot question.
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I'll be a One-Term President If I Don't Fix This Economy In Three Years;

I Will Be Held "Accountable"

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Dan the Man wrote:
Obama's campaign manager has laid out four paths to electoral college victory for Obama...
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Back in December, Messina laid out publicly the ways that advantage gives Obama an upper hand when it comes to the Electoral College: four mathematical scenarios by which he could get to 270 while underperforming 2008.(A fifth scenario involved him expanding the playing field, about which more in a moment.)
The safe presumption underlying each is that Obama holds the nineteen states plus the District of Columbia that John Kerry won in 2004—which, recall, did not include Colorado, Florida, Indiana, Iowa, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, or Virginia, all of which Obama carried in 2008, giving the president a base of 246 electoral votes.
There’s the western path: Obama holds Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, and Iowa for a total of 272.
There’s the midwestern path: Obama holds Ohio and Iowa (270).
There’s the southern path: Obama holds North Carolina and Virginia (274).
And there’s the Florida path, in which Obama simply again takes the Sunshine State (275).
I ask Messina if all four avenues are still open.“Absolutely,” he replies.“The West path is completely operative. The Midwest is there; I believe that we’ll carry Ohio and Iowa. We lead in Virginia and North Carolina today; so that pathway’s there. We are tied in Florida; so that pathway’s there.”
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This is an amazing fact—and one that throws into stark relief the converse difficulties Romney will have in reaching the magic number. The dauntingness begins with his initial hurdle to surmount: clawing back at least six states Obama won last go-round.
Almost all of Romney’s 270 scenarios revolve around a strategy outlined by Karl Rove and dubbed “3-2-1,” in which the GOP reclaims three of the traditionally red states snatched away by Obama (Indiana, North Carolina, and Virginia), wins the two perennial mega swing states (Florida and Ohio), and then snags one more from among those up for grabs.
A senior Obama campaign official scoffs at the notion that Romney could pull off such a feat.“To get there,” he says,“they’ve got to take away either Pennsylvania or Michigan, and they can’t do either one of them.
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Regardless of national polling, an electoral college victory is nearly insurmountable for Romney. It's not even close.
But the media needs a horse race to keep people involved, so they'll continue reporting as if this is a close race.
So keep cherry-picking your polls and posting opinion pieces from rightwing commentators if that keeps the despair at bay, rightwingers. Deep down you know it just ain't gonna happen.
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Does it hurt when you talk out of your ass?

You do it all the time, so I'm just wondering.
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Above article here:
Hope: The Sequel
http://nymag.com/print/...
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I'm happy to fight for the middle class,"

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Finally, some in the MSM are catching on...

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Romney’s pants on fire

By Eugene Robinson, Published: May 28

There are those who tell the truth. There are those who distort the truth. And then there’s Mitt Romney.

Every political campaign exaggerates and dissembles. This practice may not be admirable — it’s surely one reason so many Americans are disenchanted with politics — but it’s something we’ve all come to expect. Candidates claim the right to make any boast or accusation as long as there’s a kernel of veracity in there somewhere.

Even by this lax standard, Romney too often fails. Not to put too fine a point on it, he lies. Quite a bit.
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He seems to believe voters are too dumb to discover what the facts really are — or too jaded to care.

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Mitt Romney lies. A lot.

And he does it to advance his political ambitions, even when he doesn't need to. Even when the truth would work just as well.

This is a SERIOUS character flaw the American people need to know about. I'm glad some in the MSM have started to notice.
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I'm Mittrack Obamney and approve these messages.
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Dan the Man wrote:
Finally, some in the MSM are catching on...
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Romney’s pants on fire
By Eugene Robinson, Published: May 28
There are those who tell the truth. There are those who distort the truth. And then there’s Mitt Romney.
Every political campaign exaggerates and dissembles. This practice may not be admirable — it’s surely one reason so many Americans are disenchanted with politics — but it’s something we’ve all come to expect. Candidates claim the right to make any boast or accusation as long as there’s a kernel of veracity in there somewhere.
Even by this lax standard, Romney too often fails. Not to put too fine a point on it, he lies. Quite a bit.
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He seems to believe voters are too dumb to discover what the facts really are — or too jaded to care.
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Mitt Romney lies. A lot.
And he does it to advance his political ambitions, even when he doesn't need to. Even when the truth would work just as well.
This is a SERIOUS character flaw the American people need to know about. I'm glad some in the MSM have started to notice.
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Dude, I post facts with back-up evidence to prove them.

It's not like I'm making things up.

It's all verifiable fact.

Just because you and the rest of the left have chosen to live in a false reality doesn't mean the rest of us reality-based, rational, thinking people have to.
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Dan the Man
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Really?

It's fair that they pay 10% to 15% while the rest of us pay 30%?

Maybe you don't know the meaning of the word

"fair."

LOL!

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c'mon danny boy debate

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Federal Income Taxes on Middle-Income Families Remain Near Historic Lows

By Chuck Marr

Updated April 2, 2012

Federal taxes on middle-income Americans are near historic lows,[1] according to the latest available data.

That’s true both for federal income taxes and total federal taxes.[2]

Income taxes:

A family of four in the exact middle of the income spectrum will pay only 5.6 percent of its 2011 income in federal income taxes, according to a new analysis by the Urban Institute-Brookings Institution Tax Policy Center.[3]

Average income tax rates for these typical families have been lower during the Bush and Obama Administrations than at any time since the 1950s, as Figure 1 shows.

(As discussed below, 2009 and 2010 were particularly low because of the temporary Making Work Pay Tax Credit.)

Overall federal taxes:

Overall federal taxes — which include income as well as payroll and excise taxes — on middle-income households are near their lowest levels in decades, according to the latest data from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm ...

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Dan the Man wrote:
Finally, some in the MSM are catching on...
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Romney’s pants on fire
By Eugene Robinson, Published: May 28
There are those who tell the truth. There are those who distort the truth. And then there’s Mitt Romney.
Every political campaign exaggerates and dissembles. This practice may not be admirable — it’s surely one reason so many Americans are disenchanted with politics — but it’s something we’ve all come to expect. Candidates claim the right to make any boast or accusation as long as there’s a kernel of veracity in there somewhere.
Even by this lax standard, Romney too often fails. Not to put too fine a point on it, he lies. Quite a bit.
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He seems to believe voters are too dumb to discover what the facts really are — or too jaded to care.
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Mitt Romney lies. A lot.
And he does it to advance his political ambitions, even when he doesn't need to. Even when the truth would work just as well.
This is a SERIOUS character flaw the American people need to know about. I'm glad some in the MSM have started to notice.
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UPDATE:

The Associated Press also dug into the numbers and came to the same conclusion as we did.

"The problem with that rosy claim is that the Wall Street bailout is part of the calculation.

The bailout ballooned the 2009 budget just before Obama took office, making Obama's 2010 results look smaller in comparison.

And as almost $150 billion of the bailout was paid back during Obama's watch, the [Nutting] analysis counted them as government spending cuts," the AP said.

"It also assumes Obama had less of a role setting the budget for 2009 than he really did."

This is as big of a whopper as Obama has increased oil production...
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Four years ago, the economy was shrinking; now it's growing.

Four years ago, the economy was hemorrhaging jobs; now it's gaining jobs.

Four years ago, the unemployment rate was going up; now it's going down.

Four years ago, the stock market was crashing; now it's reaching new heights.

Four years ago, the deficit was getting bigger; now it's getting smaller.

Four years ago, the American auto industry was on the verge of collapse; now it's thriving.

President Obama saved the US economy for a second Great Depression.

That's why I'm voting for him.

That's why I'm not afraid to say so.

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Dan the Man
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Really?
It's fair that they pay 10% to 15% while the rest of us pay 30%?
Maybe you don't know the meaning of the word
"fair."
LOL!
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c'mon danny boy debate
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Federal Income Taxes on Middle-Income Families Remain Near Historic Lows
By Chuck Marr
Updated April 2, 2012
Federal taxes on middle-income Americans are near historic lows,[1] according to the latest available data.
That’s true both for federal income taxes and total federal taxes.[2]
Income taxes:
A family of four in the exact middle of the income spectrum will pay only 5.6 percent of its 2011 income in federal income taxes, according to a new analysis by the Urban Institute-Brookings Institution Tax Policy Center.[3]
Average income tax rates for these typical families have been lower during the Bush and Obama Administrations than at any time since the 1950s, as Figure 1 shows.
(As discussed below, 2009 and 2010 were particularly low because of the temporary Making Work Pay Tax Credit.)
Overall federal taxes:
Overall federal taxes — which include income as well as payroll and excise taxes — on middle-income households are near their lowest levels in decades, according to the latest data from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm ...
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Dan the Man
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c'mon danny boy debate
Dan talked about tax rates on TAXABLE income.
Your article talks about the percentage of all income.

You've been told this a gazillion times.

Quitt being such a f*cking dumbass.
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Dan talked about tax rates on TAXABLE income.

Your article talks about the percentage of all income.

You've been told this a gazillion times.

Quitt being such a f*cking dumbass.

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Dan the Man
Carlisle, PA

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Really?

It's fair that they pay 10% to 15% while the rest of us pay 30%?

Maybe you don't know the meaning of the word

"fair."

LOL!

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Dan talked about tax rates on TAXABLE income.

So, you f*cking dumbass.

You sell the family farm in nitwitville where you have lived for Forty years for a MILLION DOLLARS.

GOT THAT?

You put the million into 3% bond funds and live off

$30,000 a year paying 15% capital gains on TAXABLE

income.

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It's fair that they pay 10% to 15% while the rest of us pay 30%?

Maybe you don't know the meaning of the word

"fair."

You f*cking dumbass

You've been told this a gazillion times.
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Obama has done a 180. Obama has his own "Kill List". Criticized Bush and he's no better...Kill first, don't put them on trial, just kill them.

Hmmmm quite a change. Could it be that Obama is starting to panic and will do anything at this point to boost himself up? Nothing has been working so far, he figures maybe this will.

Bye Bye Obama...Hello President Romney!!
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Barack Obama is a competent, intelligent, pragmatic, non-ideologue. There are very few of them in DC or interested in becoming President. I value those qualities in a President.
I want Obama to complete the implementation of the ACA. I want him to reform immigration. I want him to finish the economic recovery and begin addressing the long-term stability of our economy.
The role of the federal government is to keep the nation secure and ensure the common good. There isn't MORE that I want the government to do, I just want it to do the things it's been mandated to do effectively and efficiently. I want our immigration system to work. I want our economy to work for EVERYONE. I want our nation to be secure from terrorism without violating citizens' liberties. I want equal rights for all people.
But my biggest concern is that one of the two major political parties seems to have gone completely insane. The make outrageous accusations against the President that aren't even in the same universe as the truth. They have become completely obstructionist, preventing even the basic tasks of governing from getting done. They have an economic agenda that would take the US the way of Europe. They have fiscal policies that increase the number of poor, make the most vulnerable in our society MORE vulnerable, and increase the economic gap between rich and poor to the point that will certainly cause the nation to fall. They alienate the rest of the world, making the nation less safe.
Like I said, I value a competent, intelligent, non-ideological, pragmatic President. There hasn't been anyone like that on the right in 20 years.
So now, please answer the same questions. Please share what your vision for Romney's first term. Please describe what you think the role of the federal government is and what you would like the government to do differently.
I bet you were drooling and slobbering like an infant when you typed how great you think Obama is? I bet it was a very unappealing sight. Kind of like Chris Matthews getting a thrill up his leg at the sight and voice of Obama...talk about creepy! YUCK!!
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TaxNoMore--Most people are capable of reading. You don't need to double-space your entire posts in an effort to take up the page.

...You're projecting.

OK. I admit it. I don't actually read your garbage...But others might. I'm just here to help.
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Dan the Man wrote:
Any rightwinger want to explain the up side of Romney palling around with the Donald Trump freak show?
Whose vote does this gain Romney that he wouldn't have otherwise had? Nobody's.
But whose vote is he actively alienating? Countless rational independents.
What's the up side? Why does Romney think this is a good idea?
The same reason Obama palled around with Clooney....money!!!!

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