Police officers should know their pub...

Police officers should know their public image counts

There are 149 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Mar 1, 2010, titled Police officers should know their public image counts. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

If I were a cop I'd be an honest cop, a fair cop, a righteous cop. And I'd probably feel the same way about Gov.

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mock the flock

Holbrook, MA

#132 Mar 9, 2010
The West Newton Kid wrote:
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Ah yes. You are back to the same old trick. Posting a phony message with my name on it. How creative. Clearly, Public Debating is not one of your strong points.
Don't worry, Pal. I will stick around to make sure that the Topix Forum Readers hear two sides to any story involving our beloved lawmen. It is my Civic Duty.......
This is what these idiots have to resort to because they really have nothing to say. When they start with this foolishness they have basicaly conceded any and all debate with you. However their fragile little misguided ego prompts them to resort to these ridiculous posts.
The West Newton Kid

Matawan, NJ

#133 Mar 9, 2010
The West Newton Kid wrote:
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Ah yes. You are back to the same old trick. Posting a phony message with my name on it. How creative. Clearly, Public Debating is not one of your strong points.
Don't worry, Pal. I will stick around to make sure that the Topix Forum Readers hear two sides to any story involving our beloved lawmen. It is my Civic Duty.......
I am the real West Newton Kid. I really dont dislike cops, I dislike myself. In addition to Cops I regularly bash any profession or group that I feel threatened by. I am deeply insecure and jealous of anyone with more authority, money, s3x appeal, confidence, etc... It is my civic duty, to scour the AP wire for any alledged police impropriety, and bring it to the dozen or so people who read this thread on the Lowell Sun Topix Forum. You see its tough being unemployed, and I have to do this to keep my mind active. It also keeps my typing wpm up around 40 as I feverishly carry on my duty. You never know when a good data entry position is going to open up.

I do realize that the only people who read this particular forum are cops, and people that have a grudge against them. I know that I'm not going to change anyone's position, and as a result I am engaged in a exercise in futility. Furthermore, the cops that I banter with are most likely getting paid to post from their laptops, on my dime. As such, I'm literally perpetuating the very waste of my tax dollars that I find so reprehensible.
The West Newton Kid

Boston, MA

#134 Mar 9, 2010
mock the flock wrote:
<quoted text>This is what these idiots have to resort to because they really have nothing to say. When they start with this foolishness they have basicaly conceded any and all debate with you. However their fragile little misguided ego prompts them to resort to these ridiculous posts.
I agree with you. The cops have no leg to stand on in this debate and they are now resorting to posting complete garbage. They cannot disute any of the facts or any of the observations; but they feel that they have to respond somehow, anyway. So, again, they post complete garbage. It does not surprise me.

“Watch out for my shivs”

Since: Feb 09

Do troll busters become trolls

#135 Mar 9, 2010
The West Newton Kid wrote:
<quoted text>I am the real West Newton Kid. I really dont dislike cops, I dislike myself. In addition to Cops I regularly bash any profession or group that I feel threatened by. I am deeply insecure and jealous of anyone with more authority, money, s3x appeal, confidence, etc... It is my civic duty, to scour the AP wire for any alledged police impropriety, and bring it to the dozen or so people who read this thread on the Lowell Sun Topix Forum..
While your post is creative .. sorry I cut some to make space here.. You're shoveling against the tide of people that live to bash the police. You can't change them.
I can't imagine how down heartening it would be for me, if I was a police officer and came home, signed on to Topix and kept finding all this negativity.
I think we need a thread highlighting the good things, day by day, for instance, in this story, a police officer, without the aid of Pauley Perrette's facial recognition program, recognized a thief helping these small store owners ultimately get their merchandise back:

BILLERICA — In his Boston Road shop, Hobby Fever, Shawn Freitas is surrounded by remote-controlled cars, airplanes and helicopters.
It's a motorized paradise for children, big and small.

Like many businesses, Hobby Fever, depends on generating loyal, repeat customers who are willing to pay up to $450 for a remote-controlled car or truck and $500 for an airplane, plus the $30 to $40 for an extra set of wheels and other items.
So when two men walked into Hobby Fever on Jan. 11 and purchased two high-end remote controlled cars totaling $2,231, Freitas and his brother, Jason Price, who co-owns the store, were excited.
Eight days later they got the bad news.
Freitas learned that one of the “customers,” Christian Guide of Andover, had allegedly used a stolen credit card to buy the items. Freitas called the Billerica police.

Freitas said he did everything correctly in accepting the card.
“The signature on the back of the card was a perfect match for the signature on the receipt,'' Freitas said.‘I did everything right,'' he said, but the credit card company refused to pay.“There is nothing protecting the merchant.''
What saved Freitas is his in-store surveillance system that captured Guide and his friend buying the merchandise.
Police used photos from the video and put them on MassMostWanted.com . Freitas put up a Craigslist post using the same photos and received more than 50 e-mail responses to the ad.
On Feb. 3, Billerica police Sgt. Roy Frost told Freitas that two suspects were caught. An officer from the Stoneham police had recognized Guide's friend, who was brought in for questioning. The interview led to Guide's arrest, Freitas said.
Here is a link to the full story and thread:
http://www.topix.com/forum/source/lowell-sun/...
Couldnt get hired

Manchester, NH

#136 Mar 9, 2010
The West Newton Kid wrote:
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There are certainly MANY reasons that someone should consider a career in law enforcement, especially here in Mass. Let's explore a few of those reasons:
1) A free pass for drinking and driving; as long as you stay in your local community and you do not get into a severe accident.
2) Perfect driving records for you; your family members and your friends; regardless of how any of you actually drive.
3) An insane amount of paid time off each year. This time may be vacation time, personal time, sick time and also "job related injury" paid time off.
4) The knowledge that being an LEO is actually a pretty safe job; in spite of the perceived danger. Annual Law Enforcement deaths are currently at a 50 year low.
5) An insane amount of overtime; to the point that it is basically limitless. Due to the insane amount of paid days off you receive; you will get an insane amount of overtime to cover for all those paid days off.
6) The protection of very powerful unions; perhaps the most powerful unions in our country. These unions basically tie the hands of the local politicians as well as the Taxpayers; as they threaten lawsuits for anything and everything.
7) A free pass for oversteppingt your legal bounds by lying and falsifying records; as well as the support of your fellow officers who may also lie and falsify records for you.
8) Easy access to drugs and cash stored in Evidence Rooms. As demonstrated here in Dracut; thse drugs can be stolen and sold for illegal cash gains; with very little fear of any negative repercussions.
9) The ability to leave your job for "Stress Related Reasons" instead of retiring; to avoid income tax responsibilities.
10)The ability to arm youselve 24 hours a day and have the immediate armed assistance of your co workers available to you 24 hours a day as well.
11) Very good pay. In many of our towns and cities; at least 1/3 of the cops on the force are making pay between $75,000 to $125,000 per year; after all the overtime and stipends.
Obviously; there are countless reasons for becoming a cop!
This writer obviously didnt get hired when he applied for a Police job. Paper or plastic he says......
The West Newton Kid

Boston, MA

#137 Mar 9, 2010
Hey, speaking of thefts; I offer the following true stories:

1) Former Clayton Borough NJ police chief Frank Winters was sentenced to the state prison on 1/8/09 for stealing $180,000 cash from a MADD fund; along with additional cash from his own police department.

2) Officer Johnny Rodriguez of the Dallas PD was charged with theft of the belongings of his fellow officers on 1/10/10. He had recently returned to duty after previously being fired for other theft charges.

3) Ex Holland MA police chief Kevin P Gleason was sentenced to 2 years in prison on 9/18/09 for the theft of $2190.00 cash from an evidence locker, along with pocketing money that he made from the illegal sale of 16 town bought guns and rifles.

4) 10/2/09 New Castle NH police chief James Murphy was arrested and charged with stealing thousands of dollars from a "Food Drive" fund over the course of several years.

5) 10/24/09 Former Bellows Falls VT police chief John Dunfee reached a deal with federal prosecuters over charges that he embezzled village money to use at Connecticut Casinos.

6) 10/9/09 Chicago police officer George Porter was charged with stealing $800.00 from a fellow officer who had cancer. Apparently, Porter was using the bank card of an ill worker to steal cash instead of buying the groceries that he said he would be buying.

7) 1/22/10 Chicago cop Tiffany Brown was found guilty of trying to deposit a phony $1,000.000 check into the Chicago Patrolman's Credit Union.

I've got a million of them, Folks; and as you can see they are all VERY RECENT stories......

“Watch out for my shivs”

Since: Feb 09

Do troll busters become trolls

#138 Mar 9, 2010
Couldnt get hired wrote:
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This writer obviously didnt get hired when he applied for a Police job. Paper or plastic he says......
Nah.. to much time on his hands. He's sitting at his 'puter in sweat pants..

“Watch out for my shivs”

Since: Feb 09

Do troll busters become trolls

#139 Mar 9, 2010
'Tough woman' cop hailed Fort Hood hero
From Mallory Simon and Jim Spellman, CNN
November 7, 2009 8:02 a.m. EST

Kimberly Munley, here in an image from Twitter, is a civilian police officer credited with stopping the gunman.

Officer Kimberly Munley shot gunman four times at Fort Hood, general says
General says Munley acted "pretty amazing and aggressive"
Fort Hood, Texas (CNN)-- The police officer who ended the Fort Hood massacre by shooting the suspect is known as the enforcer on her street, a "tough woman" who patrolled her neighborhood and once stopped burglars at her house.
"If you come in, I'm going to shoot," Kimberly Munley told the would-be intruders last year.
It was Munley who arrived quickly Thursday at the scene of the worst massacre at an Army base in U.S. history, where 13 people were killed. She confronted the alleged gunman, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, and shot him four times. Munley was wounded in the exchange.
That's just like her, friends and family say.
"I just felt more protected knowing she was on my street," neighbor Erin Houston said.
Munley, the mother of a 3-year-old girl, lives on a street where a lot of homes are vacant because so many residents are deployed at war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
"We sleep a lot safer knowing she's on the block," said Sgt. William Barbrow, another neighbor.
When Bryan Munley heard that his sister-in-law thwarted the alleged gunman in a shootout, he wasn't surprised.
"There's nothing that stands in her way. It completely makes sense that she did what she did," he said from Downingtown, Pennsylvania. "It was amazing. Without her, there would have been a lot more people killed."
Video: Fort Hood hero a 'strong woman' Video: General says officer acted quickly
He added, "She is definitely a tough woman."
Munley, 34, is being treated for her wounds. Her father, former Carolina Beach, North Carolina, Mayor Dennis Barbour, said his daughter is doing well.
"Her efforts were superb," said Col. Steven Braverman, the base hospital commander.
Lt. Gen. Bob Cone, Fort Hood's commanding general, described Munley as a "trained, active first responder" who acted quickly after she "just happened to encounter the gunman."
"Really a pretty amazing and aggressive performance by this police officer," he said.
Cone said Munley and her partner responded "very quickly" to the scene -- reportedly in about three minutes".
Find the rest of the story at:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/fort.hood ...

“Watch out for my shivs”

Since: Feb 09

Do troll busters become trolls

#140 Mar 9, 2010
TEWKSBURY -- The vigilance of a Tewksbury officer is being heralded for leading to the downfall of an allegedly prolific copper thief.

Officer Dennis "D.J." Peterson Jr. was patrolling Shawsheen Street near Interstate 93 on Thursday about 1:45 a.m., when he noticed a hole in some fencing, acting Deputy Chief John Voto said.
Peterson and other officers soon discovered an open door at Praxair, a global company that supplies specialty gases and high-performance coatings. They quickly realized that they had interrupted a break-in, with the suspect fleeing on foot, according to police reports.

As officers scoured the area and called for a police dog, Peterson spotted the man walking behind a Dunkin' Donuts at a nearby strip mall, according to reports.
"Officer Peterson and the whole overnight shift did a great job," Voto said. "That was what you call good police work."

The suspect turned out to be 38-year-old Richard Beebe, who has a history of copper thefts in the area.
Beebe was charged by Billerica police in 2006 after they said he confessed to stealing copper from Solar Schott and American Power and Conversion in that town, where he lived at the time.

In 2008, Beebe landed in handcuffs again -- this time in Lowell -- where police charged him with trespassing, conspiracy to commit felony breaking and entering, and carrying a knife.

Beebe, who now lists an address of 26 Beacon St., Burlington, was already wanted on a warrant when he was arrested Thursday.
In addition to a charge of being a fugitive from justice on a court warrant, Beebe faces three counts of breaking and entering into a building in the nighttime to commit a felony and two counts of larceny over $250 in Tewksbury.

Voto said Beebe is a suspect in past breaks but declined to provide additional details, citing ongoing investigations.

One business recently targeted by a copper thief was the new Town Fair Tire Center being built on Old Main Street near the Lowell line. Police were called to the partially completed commercial building on Feb. 22 to take a report on "over 2,000 feet of copper wire" that had been stolen over the weekend, according to police reports.
Voto declined to say if Beebe is believed to have been the perpetrator in that incident.
The West Newton Kid

Boston, MA

#141 Mar 9, 2010
3/09/10 (today!) Four Georgia officers are fired amid sex and drug claims. Charges include not reporting corruption, supplying drugs at illegal sex parties, and having sex while on the job. They were fired after a 3 month investigation.

Detective Jerald Parks allegedly participated in sex parties and provided drugs to participants. He was also accused of intentially botching a kidnapping investigation.
The West Newton Kid

Boston, MA

#142 Mar 9, 2010
CatmomDu wrote:
TEWKSBURY -- The vigilance of a Tewksbury officer is being heralded for leading to the downfall of an allegedly prolific copper thief.
Officer Dennis "D.J." Peterson Jr. was patrolling Shawsheen Street near Interstate 93 on Thursday about 1:45 a.m., when he noticed a hole in some fencing, acting Deputy Chief John Voto said.
Peterson and other officers soon discovered an open door at Praxair, a global company that supplies specialty gases and high-performance coatings. They quickly realized that they had interrupted a break-in, with the suspect fleeing on foot, according to police reports.
As officers scoured the area and called for a police dog, Peterson spotted the man walking behind a Dunkin' Donuts at a nearby strip mall, according to reports.
"Officer Peterson and the whole overnight shift did a great job," Voto said. "That was what you call good police work."
The suspect turned out to be 38-year-old Richard Beebe, who has a history of copper thefts in the area.
Beebe was charged by Billerica police in 2006 after they said he confessed to stealing copper from Solar Schott and American Power and Conversion in that town, where he lived at the time.
In 2008, Beebe landed in handcuffs again -- this time in Lowell -- where police charged him with trespassing, conspiracy to commit felony breaking and entering, and carrying a knife.
Beebe, who now lists an address of 26 Beacon St., Burlington, was already wanted on a warrant when he was arrested Thursday.
In addition to a charge of being a fugitive from justice on a court warrant, Beebe faces three counts of breaking and entering into a building in the nighttime to commit a felony and two counts of larceny over $250 in Tewksbury.
Voto said Beebe is a suspect in past breaks but declined to provide additional details, citing ongoing investigations.
One business recently targeted by a copper thief was the new Town Fair Tire Center being built on Old Main Street near the Lowell line. Police were called to the partially completed commercial building on Feb. 22 to take a report on "over 2,000 feet of copper wire" that had been stolen over the weekend, according to police reports.
Voto declined to say if Beebe is believed to have been the perpetrator in that incident.
Wow, a four year old story.......
mock the flock

Holbrook, MA

#143 Mar 9, 2010
Couldnt get hired wrote:
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This writer obviously didnt get hired when he applied for a Police job. Paper or plastic he says......
I love how you guys assume anyone who critisizes cops is just someone who couldn't make the force. I think myself and others on this forum who have critisized cops have also emphasized that there are some great cops out there as well. I think your reaction is typicaly coming from the large number of J*** off cops out there. And did you ever think that alot of people don't have any desire to be cops. After all who wants to spend all of their time with a bunch of guys who talk the same think the same and have the same damn gung ho flat top haircut. I can only imagine standing around the BBQ grill having the same conversation over and over and over. I know plenty of cool cops but most of you are simple minded robots.
Cops R Ok Sometimes

Billerica, MA

#144 Mar 9, 2010
mock the flock wrote:
<quoted text>I love how you guys assume anyone who critisizes cops is just someone who couldn't make the force. I think myself and others on this forum who have critisized cops have also emphasized that there are some great cops out there as well. I think your reaction is typicaly coming from the large number of J*** off cops out there. And did you ever think that alot of people don't have any desire to be cops. After all who wants to spend all of their time with a bunch of guys who talk the same think the same and have the same damn gung ho flat top haircut. I can only imagine standing around the BBQ grill having the same conversation over and over and over. I know plenty of cool cops but most of you are simple minded robots.
You forgot the ones with the drinking problems, the I can get away with everything mentality, and the ones that got picked on in school that have the bad attitude because of it,.... I am sure I have missed a few other problems. As in any profession there are good ones and bad ones.

What the Cat fails to list, is the officers who have swept stuff pertaining to their relatives under the rug, the officer who was talking to underage girls,... welcome to the good ole boys network.
mock the flock

Holbrook, MA

#145 Mar 9, 2010
Cops R Ok Sometimes wrote:
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You forgot the ones with the drinking problems, the I can get away with everything mentality, and the ones that got picked on in school that have the bad attitude because of it,.... I am sure I have missed a few other problems. As in any profession there are good ones and bad ones.
What the Cat fails to list, is the officers who have swept stuff pertaining to their relatives under the rug, the officer who was talking to underage girls,... welcome to the good ole boys network.
Oh believe me, If we actualy knew everything that was going on there would be a revolt. It's not easy for a cop to get nailed for anything. We can only begin to imagine how much corruption there is in the shadows of the shield. Not just the ticket fixing or the drinking and driving, the speeding off duty. I would love to see some stats on tickets handed out to regular citizens vs. cops and friends and family of cops. I'm sure anyone can guess wich way the scale is overwhelmingly tipped.
Billerica Indian

Hooksett, NH

#146 Mar 9, 2010
hey if it wasnt for the cops in this town donut sales would be at record lows, as well as sales of cocaine and steroids.
Billerica Indian

Hooksett, NH

#147 Mar 9, 2010
cops used to be good guys back in the day, now every person I know that becomes a cop got picked on in high school and has a napolean complex
Man with two arms

Bennington, VT

#148 Mar 9, 2010
Disgusted wrote:
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Total BS. I use to see what cops make and never saw one making under 50K.
Sounds like the mother is really a crossing guard.
Someone said that in Lexington one guy makes about $98k, and outearned all but two teachers in that town. I think I heard somewhere that he was a lower paid Lexington cop and that most make more. No way 50k. They don't make that.

How many suburban Mass cops lost their lives in the line of duty in 2009? Can't be that many.
mock the flock

Holbrook, MA

#149 Mar 9, 2010
Billerica Indian wrote:
cops used to be good guys back in the day, now every person I know that becomes a cop got picked on in high school and has a napolean complex
Yeah pretty much. There are exeptions but I know if you talk to any psychologist they would tell you that in most cases. Protecting the public has nothing to do with persons desire to become a cop. It is a need for respect or power and handing those things over to someone who feels they are in desperate need of that is irresponsible as a society. There are good ones out there though. I think they should under go more psycho analysis.
Momma Knows Best

Lowell, MA

#150 Mar 9, 2010
everyone is so dumb wrote:
You all are seriously the dumbest and most close minded people I have ever come across. first this article is bull. My mother is a police officer who has been working her **** off for 25 years on the job. She has done so much for this community and her job means so much to her. She does not make that much money as a cop so don't be saying things like oh yeah they make so much. Did you know that right after college an average police officer makes about 30,000 a year, so don't talk about stuff you don't know about. I am so proud of my mother and everything she has done for our community, she is the hardest working person I have ever met. She is not lazy she takes as many overtimes as she can to support my family but at the same time is always there for me and helps support me in everything i do. So when i read stuff like this in the newspaper that is so false it really makes me mad that somehthing can be published when it is completey bull and some guy can just talk about stuff he doesnt know about. Cool,i could do that if i really wanted to, maybe it will appear in the lowell sun to. Yeah some cops are assholes i know that in any job there are assholes no matter where you go. Have you ever been out to eat, a drive through, etc and the person has been rude? RUDE PEOPLE ARE EVERYWHERE HELLLO! My mother is a great cop who gets **** on by uneducated stupid people like yourselves. Im proud of cops and my mother and I hope this really changes youre mind about cops. If not, bite the big one because you are ignorant.
I so strongly agree! Just because some cops could be careless doesn't mean they are all like that. So tell your mom keep up the great work! Half the people on here that have nansty stuff to say are probably just jealous!
Bad Rap

Lowell, MA

#151 Mar 9, 2010
Cops get a bad rap. Just look at the Chief running down the street in Dracut DRUNK with a shotgun or the guy from Tyngboro, Goulet, who was sleeping at his house on the job. What a joke!!!

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