Plan for state's uninsured in peril

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A top priority of Gov. Mitch Daniels -- raising the cigarette tax to fund a health insurance plan for hundreds of thousands of Indiana's poor -- was rejected Tuesday by the Indiana House, a vote that left its ...
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Kurt

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#109
Feb 28, 2007
 
I'm sick of smokers who claim to be so terribly victimized by cigarette taxes and anti-any-tax whiners - both of whom refuse to take FULL responsibility for their actions, by passing off the associated TRUE costs - onto the rest of us.
Allan

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#110
Feb 28, 2007
 
Well not sure were to start here. Yes I'm a smoker, I don't smoke when I'm out to eat, Don't smoke in front of my family, And yes I pay for my own insurance. I would not have been upset if this tax went through, But like others have said were would the money come from later down the road when smokers start quiting?(NOT saying that would be bad)
This whole tax was to help with the uninsured. The problem is let's take a look at the poor sucking up the state walfare money now. If you can't afford to have kids then don't. Heck look at the american youth right now, There are more kids having babies right now then those who can Really afford them. But man why not when the working people will pay for them. Let's start there and try to fix that problem and use those monies to fund this program. I myself am getting tired of seeing those who don't work eating better and wearing nicer clothes then my kids.
Wake up people there is money out there already that can fix this problem.
Tim

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#111
Feb 28, 2007
 
Can anyone tell me what section of our state of national constitution says that we owe everyone free healthcare?
Jay

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#112
Feb 28, 2007
 
It's about time they put the brakes on this type of taxation.
In 1978 I paid 38 cents a pack. Now it's over $5 a pack and it's all due to the Indiana State Legislature and its love affair with the sin taxes.
Everytime this state wants more money, they tax the smokes.
Few years back, the governor even changed how that money was to be ear-marked after it had been collected.
They used to have a lic. plate people put on the front of their cars here in Indiana. It read: "Indiana -- Land of Taxes." Amen.
What happened to that State of the State goal of a one time tax on Indiana's very rich, Mitch?
No, we'd rather spend the money putting young single mothers in jail because they wrote a bad check.
What about all of the tax breaks corporations get in Indiana? I think it's time those rules and deals were reviewed. If they're going to live and work here, let them pay the bills too.
The Road to Hell

Indianapolis, IN

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#113
Mar 1, 2007
 
Kurt wrote:
I'm sick of smokers who claim to be so terribly victimized by cigarette taxes and anti-any-tax whiners - both of whom refuse to take FULL responsibility for their actions, by passing off the associated TRUE costs - onto the rest of us.
You just don't get it, do you? I do take full responsibility for my actions. I have my own health insurance. I ask that others do the same. The solution to this problem is not more taxes, it is the abolishment of socialized medicine. Make not only smokers--but everyone--take responsibility for themselves. Why is it that we must rely on the state?
Maymie

Noblesville, IN

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#114
Mar 1, 2007
 
I cannot vote for anyone that voted against this bill. More importantly, I will work hard to defeat this legislators in their next run for office. If their re-election to office and their contacts with the tobacco companies are more important to them than the health of our children they need to be removed from office!
The Road to Hell

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#115
Mar 1, 2007
 
Well, with this mindset some of you have we are well down the road to prohibition of tobacco entirely, which I am sure some of you would like immensely. So don't come to me when an illicit tobacco market is getting people shot over it. Yeah, let's create some new Al Capones.
Patricia Chang

Indianapolis, IN

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#116
Mar 1, 2007
 
The Indiana State Legislature has proved once again that they dont give a rat's patootie about the health and well-being of Hoosiers. Their reprehensible and morally corrupt rejection of the cigarette tax shows how low they have sunk. How many yielded to Big Tobacco lobbyists; and how many under-the-table deals were made? It is disgusting!
Southbound

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#117
Mar 6, 2007
 
No More wrote:
<quoted text>It wasn't Mitch that failed, but the Democrats. I agree with comments from a couple of weeks ago. Smokers should just move to Kentucky.
The non smokers should move to California. Does your own logic work for you?
Southbound

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#118
Mar 6, 2007
 
Patricia Chang wrote:
The Indiana State Legislature has proved once again that they dont give a rat's patootie about the health and well-being of Hoosiers. Their reprehensible and morally corrupt rejection of the cigarette tax shows how low they have sunk. How many yielded to Big Tobacco lobbyists; and how many under-the-table deals were made? It is disgusting!
Everyone relax. Our legislature will soon attach the smoker tax hike to the Marion County Consolidation Bill, the Mitch's New Toll Road (IN wont own), Privatized Lottery,or something else they want to slide in under the radar and the smoker tax will be hiked as planned. "We didn't want blah blah blah but we really had to have the cigarette tax increase."
who are you kidding

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#119
Mar 7, 2007
 
Southbound wrote:
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Everyone relax. Our legislature will soon attach the smoker tax hike to the Marion County Consolidation Bill, the Mitch's New Toll Road (IN wont own), Privatized Lottery,or something else they want to slide in under the radar and the smoker tax will be hiked as planned. "We didn't want blah blah blah but we really had to have the cigarette tax increase."
This so true.

Don't smoke but this was the wrong way to get money for a thing that may or not work. Mitch should take a lesson from how well medicaid has worked so far. Or do we want it just for the "cash cow" value

I agree this will be attached to a bill and fire department consolidation in Indianapolis seems a likely candidate because we haven't heard anything about it from the press but it will likely end up costing us more. The Dems by far like it and the Reps mostly don't. Maybe Mitch's Middleground.
WTR

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#120
Mar 9, 2007
 
I haven't heard much about it, but there's an anti-smoking rally planned for the Statehouse this next week. Mitch is suppose to address the crowd. I've got bail money if need be. I want to attend.

Mitch is hosting an anti-smoking rally. You suck, little dude.

“Buy Low - Sell High”

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#121
Mar 9, 2007
 
No more taxes, period.'Sin Tax' or otherwise. About 50% of our income, goes to taxes already, that should be more than enough. The govt (local, state & Fed) need to cut back on 'their' spending before raising 'our' taxes.
The Road to Hell

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#122
Mar 16, 2007
 
coffee trader wrote:
No more taxes, period.'Sin Tax' or otherwise. About 50% of our income, goes to taxes already, that should be more than enough. The govt (local, state & Fed) need to cut back on 'their' spending before raising 'our' taxes.
Oh my gosh. Amen. P.S. Coffee rules, especially with smokes.
WTR

Indianapolis, IN

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Mar 16, 2007
 
The Road to Hell wrote:
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Oh my gosh. Amen. P.S. Coffee rules, especially with smokes.
Surely the three of us will burn in hell. Let's smoke one on the way.
Southbound

Bowling Green, KY

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#124
Mar 17, 2007
 
Tim wrote:
Can anyone tell me what section of our state of national constitution says that we owe everyone free healthcare?
Obviously on the "left" side of the document.

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Since: Mar 07

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#125
Mar 18, 2007
 
WTR wrote:
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Surely the three of us will burn in hell. Let's smoke one on the way.
Yea! I would but, I haven't even sneeked a swisher sweet since I convinced my spouse to quit years ago...(in a show of support)
fedup

New Castle, DE

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#126
Jun 25, 2010
 
people its about time to say no to all this goverment crap its the poor getting the brunt of all thats wrong in this country the jails are over crowded with poor folk dont talk about a person just trying to get by oh i know just get a job well they are all over seas just where your lawmakers sent them

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