Plan for state's uninsured in peril

A top priority of Gov. Mitch Daniels -- raising the cigarette tax to fund a health insurance plan for hundreds of thousands of Indiana's poor -- was rejected Tuesday by the Indiana House, a vote that left its ... Read more
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#1 Feb 28, 2007
Hopefully this will be the death knell of the cigarette tax. If Mitch really wanted to help the poor, he could have used the food & beverage tax he pushed down taxpayers throats instead of handing that money over to fatcats and their stadium. Guess the poor don't rate.

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis

#2 Feb 28, 2007
The poor already have thier health cover under midicad. or ANyone can go and get treated at any Hospial in Indy. So where is this money going? To the ins. company and the medical profession. You notice that when the subject of health ins comes up, they never mention the prices that they charge today. Over $100 to $150 for a 15 min. office call. Just go take a catscan and see what they bill you for. Mine was in the thousands.
OOPS SORRIE

Fishers, IN

#3 Feb 28, 2007
Its now time for mitch and his kind to pack up and get out of the state house. Voters are just tired of hearing about tax increases. No mitch dont care about anyone but himself, if he did he wouldnt have done what he did over at IPL a few years back. His kind who want to rule on the pocket books of others are just what the voter should be getting out of office. His day is coming soon. With the voters help Hoosiers can take down the 4 sale sign of Indiana assets at any cost before there is nothing left. His yes men were voted out. The message was sent to both parties in the last election change direction NOW. ( you all better be working on a property tax bill or more heads are going to roll )
WTR

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Feb 28, 2007
Thank you.
Citizen 1

Indianapolis, IN

#5 Feb 28, 2007
I think it was the best decision for a very short-sighted plan. Let's say the tax increase is implemented and let's pretend it really does reduce the number of smokers in the state. The reason for the tax isn't going to go away, but the money will. Where are they going to find the money to continue these services? From another tax source, of course.
Paula Reed

Louisville, KY

#6 Feb 28, 2007
Wonderful! I'm sick of being raped because I'm a smoker. While all the holier than thou people out there are complaining it didn't go through, they may want to ask themselves this, who and what are they going to tax when the smokers no longer smoke? Perhaps your diet cola? Your snack cakes and candy? Your Starbucks? Because, believe me people, it won't stop with smokers. Can this many people seriously believe this is OK? One right at a time. They start with things that have a bad public reputation. Then what? Has anyone watched Demolition Man lately? Get a clue all you sheep!
Common Sense

Fort Knox, KY

#7 Feb 28, 2007
If ole Mitch wants to fund his health care on people's vices, let talk about taxing alcohol since smoking has already been beat to death. Since it's a well known fact that all the politicans drink, they could then brag that they're also doing their share to supports poor people's health care.
mykidzmom

Mccordsville, IN

#8 Feb 28, 2007
YES TO STADIUM! NO TO HEALTHCARE!
mykidzmom

Mccordsville, IN

#9 Feb 28, 2007
Paula Reed wrote:
Wonderful! I'm sick of being raped because I'm a smoker. While all the holier than thou people out there are complaining it didn't go through, they may want to ask themselves this, who and what are they going to tax when the smokers no longer smoke? Perhaps your diet cola? Your snack cakes and candy? Your Starbucks? Because, believe me people, it won't stop with smokers. Can this many people seriously believe this is OK? One right at a time. They start with things that have a bad public reputation. Then what? Has anyone watched Demolition Man lately? Get a clue all you sheep!
WE'LL DEAL WITH IT WHEN THE TIME COMES.
Reality Check

Peoria, IL

#10 Feb 28, 2007
www.fairtax.org

We, the people, need to take back our rights to dictate the governing and force those in office to do our bidding. The constitutions of both the United States and Indiana were written to limit the power of the government, not of the people. This tax should never have been asked for, I'm gllad it was voted down, but until the citizenry really becomes educated and votes accordingly we will never see change.
what the

Newark, OH

#11 Feb 28, 2007
OOPS SORRIE wrote:
Its now time for mitch and his kind to pack up and get out of the state house. Voters are just tired of hearing about tax increases. No mitch dont care about anyone but himself, if he did he wouldnt have done what he did over at IPL a few years back. His kind who want to rule on the pocket books of others are just what the voter should be getting out of office. His day is coming soon. With the voters help Hoosiers can take down the 4 sale sign of Indiana assets at any cost before there is nothing left. His yes men were voted out. The message was sent to both parties in the last election change direction NOW.( you all better be working on a property tax bill or more heads are going to roll )
A perfect example of the level of intelligence (and grammer) of the "Ditch Mitch" crowd. The governor comes up with plans to move this state forward and backward a%$ thinkers likes this fight him every step of the way.
what the

Newark, OH

#12 Feb 28, 2007
Reality Check wrote:
www.fairtax.org
We, the people, need to take back our rights to dictate the governing and force those in office to do our bidding. The constitutions of both the United States and Indiana were written to limit the power of the government, not of the people. This tax should never have been asked for, I'm gllad it was voted down, but until the citizenry really becomes educated and votes accordingly we will never see change.
Absolutely right - The fair tax is an outstanding plan and needs to be pushed.
Ditch Mitch

Jacksonville, FL

#13 Feb 28, 2007
what the wrote:
<quoted text>
A perfect example of the level of intelligence (and grammer) of the "Ditch Mitch" crowd. The governor comes up with plans to move this state forward and backward a%$ thinkers likes this fight him every step of the way.
It's spelled "grammar".
JUDY B

AOL

#14 Feb 28, 2007
LEAVE THE SMOKERS ALONE!
Bobby Smith

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Feb 28, 2007
Yep, you can tell the Democrats are in power. Forget the hard working people who need health insurance, they only want to line their pockets with our hard earned money. You can bet that if they were going to raise that tax to pay for their pay raise it would have passed !!! They are all crooks and liars.Hope the people who voted them into office are the ones who needed this the most. Thank God I am not one of them!!!!!
Curt from Indpls

Indianapolis, IN

#16 Feb 28, 2007
The governor is to blame for this defeat by his own party. When the leader of the state can not get his own party behind him, then there's real trouble brewing. As for those who voted this down, you missed a prime opportunity to show this nation that Indiana understands and gets it. As for Robert Behning, I don't understand you, you're out! These elected officials, will never put the people of this fine state, first over themselves. They should all be lined up, tarred and feathered, for their use of stupidity. It's really a sad day for everyone.
No More

Bloomington, IN

#17 Feb 28, 2007
OOPS SORRIE wrote:
Its now time for mitch and his kind to pack up and get out of the state house. Voters are just tired of hearing about tax increases. No mitch dont care about anyone but himself, if he did he wouldnt have done what he did over at IPL a few years back. His kind who want to rule on the pocket books of others are just what the voter should be getting out of office. His day is coming soon. With the voters help Hoosiers can take down the 4 sale sign of Indiana assets at any cost before there is nothing left. His yes men were voted out. The message was sent to both parties in the last election change direction NOW.( you all better be working on a property tax bill or more heads are going to roll )
It wasn't Mitch that failed, but the Democrats. I agree with comments from a couple of weeks ago. Smokers should just move to Kentucky.
No More

Bloomington, IN

#18 Feb 28, 2007
Reality Check wrote:
www.fairtax.org
We, the people, need to take back our rights to dictate the governing and force those in office to do our bidding. The constitutions of both the United States and Indiana were written to limit the power of the government, not of the people. This tax should never have been asked for, I'm gllad it was voted down, but until the citizenry really becomes educated and votes accordingly we will never see change.
Where is fairtax.org everytime the Feds or State give a tax break, then because of neutrality rules, have to raise taxes somewhere else. Instead of fairtax.org , join a limit socialism.org site. You do realize that the countries that have dabbled in socialized medicine are failing and implementing private measure now,while the US forgets history (maybe due to the union-backed schools) and wants to become even more socialistic.
hot chick

Indianapolis, IN

#19 Feb 28, 2007
Whoo--hoo!!!! It's great to be a smoker!!!!! now, leave us the hell alone..it's my choice to smoke, MY CHOICE!!!!!!!!

“Going thru hell, keep going!”

Since: Dec 06

United States

#20 Feb 28, 2007
As a former smoker, I sympathize with smokers. Unfortunately, the taxes om cigarettes did NOTHING to stop me from smoking. I would have paid 10.00/pack to continue.

Te real issue is what is this tax really going to be used for. The reasons for the tax always seem to morph based on what our legislators are eying for their "constituents". After seeing the taxes on alcohol, which is comparitively as bad as smoking, we probably should be looking at a tax increase on that instead of cigarettes.

This was a bad proposal in the first place and the state is better without it. Mitch and the crew better come up with something better than this lame attempt.

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