Mother of Lavonia pastor shot by drug...

Mother of Lavonia pastor shot by drug agents speaks out

There are 48 comments on the WDUN-AM Gainesville story from Sep 17, 2009, titled Mother of Lavonia pastor shot by drug agents speaks out. In it, WDUN-AM Gainesville reports that:

The mother of the Lavonia pastor who was shot and killed by drug agents earlier this month said she wants answers.

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“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#1 Sep 19, 2009
I think it can be summed up as easy as this, police are "role models" and preachers are "role models" as well. Additionally, it's not a far stretch to see that police have slipped to the back of the proverbial line when considering other role models such as stars in; country music, nascar, NFL, President Obama and preachers.

Therefore, one could surmise that the police "role" models wanted to even the score a bit, so they greased a higher "role" model to even the playing field.

DUB

Since: Mar 08

North East Ga

#2 Sep 19, 2009
Richard_ wrote:
I think it can be summed up as easy as this, police are "role models" and preachers are "role models" as well. Additionally, it's not a far stretch to see that police have slipped to the back of the proverbial line when considering other role models such as stars in; country music, nascar, NFL, President Obama and preachers.
Therefore, one could surmise that the police "role" models wanted to even the score a bit, so they greased a higher "role" model to even the playing field.
You consider music stars and NFL players ahead of police officers as role models. Let's think about that seriously. By shear numbers, NFL players and professional musicians have a higher percentage of criminal activity and recidivism than any branch of law enforcement. And when was the last time you heard of a group of 10,000 little boys coming forward to claim being molested by police officers? Never, can preachers/priest say the same?
And the President of the United States, has been involved in more violations of law and oath in less than a year than any officer in ten years. What the officers did was defend themselves and try to do a job you could not understand or do, ever. You have no idea what it means to sacrifice daily for the scumbags and the innocents. To sacrifice for the innocent and upstanding is easy, but defending the guilty and repulsive members of this world is the difficult part and they do it everyday.
DUB Hater

Alpharetta, GA

#3 Sep 19, 2009
DUB wrote:
<quoted text> You consider music stars and NFL players ahead of police officers as role models. Let's think about that seriously. By shear numbers, NFL players and professional musicians have a higher percentage of criminal activity and recidivism than any branch of law enforcement. And when was the last time you heard of a group of 10,000 little boys coming forward to claim being molested by police officers? Never, can preachers/priest say the same?
And the President of the United States, has been involved in more violations of law and oath in less than a year than any officer in ten years. What the officers did was defend themselves and try to do a job you could not understand or do, ever. You have no idea what it means to sacrifice daily for the scumbags and the innocents. To sacrifice for the innocent and upstanding is easy, but defending the guilty and repulsive members of this world is the difficult part and they do it everyday.
Very brave you are to speak out when no one knows your true identity. But then again, you should be anonymous I know at least 400 people who would gladly spit on your face.

DUB

Since: Mar 08

North East Ga

#4 Sep 19, 2009
DUB Hater wrote:
<quoted text> Very brave you are to speak out when no one knows your true identity. But then again, you should be anonymous I know at least 400 people who would gladly spit on your face.
Wow 400 people who would spit in the face of a person exercising a right to disagree with you. Sounds like you have great friends. But then again you and your 400 friends are perfect examples of why this country is in the shape it is in. But why not post your real name, if I am such a coward. Could it be hypocrisy rearing it's head again.
Wildflower

Jefferson, GA

#5 Sep 19, 2009
DUB wrote:
<quoted text>Wow 400 people who would spit in the face of a person exercising a right to disagree with you. Sounds like you have great friends. But then again you and your 400 friends are perfect examples of why this country is in the shape it is in. But why not post your real name, if I am such a coward. Could it be hypocrisy rearing it's head again.
Dub, you are right on this one. Even the name "Dub Hater" is rude. Please don't judge everyone by his or her rudeness. And really, that is not why our country is in the shape we are in. It is because people are not concerned with what is going on all around us. And by not beign involved with our political leaders.
Ah, but I digress. This is about the unfortunate death of a pastor. My prayers go up for the family who has to live with this.
Aragorn

Atlanta, GA

#6 Nov 25, 2009
They will get away with it. Police are responsible for enforcing the law, but they often regard themselves (and other police) as above it. So, other police will never charge these police with anything, even though they murdered a man. They always protect their own. It's one aspect of "the blue wall of silence."

The lies they are telling are very typical. When police do something wrong, they start immediately to doctor up the story and the evidence in their favor. They say the preacher hit one of them with the car. The descriptions I have read of the surveillance video don't back that up. Even if he had hit one of them, I suspect the cops looked like bad guys closing in fast who would hurt him.(And that turned out to be true.) Police are allowed to lie in the course of their work and during interregations. I think if a person does enough of that, the line between lying and truth-telling becomes blurred, then lost. Lying, like anything else, becomes a habit after enough repetition.

I have a friend whose two parents were in law enforcement and were both undercover cops at some point. He says for many purposes, he believes police must be regarded as one more kind of gang running loose in society. I have definitely seen things myself that tend to corroborate that view.

If police want to regain and maintain the respect of American society, they will need to do something to become moral people again. They will have to rejoin respectable American society somehow. Killing a preacher who gave a free ride to someone needing to hear his message does not help their cause.

DUB

Since: Mar 08

North East Ga

#7 Nov 26, 2009
Aragorn wrote:
They will get away with it. Police are responsible for enforcing the law, but they often regard themselves (and other police) as above it. So, other police will never charge these police with anything, even though they murdered a man. They always protect their own. It's one aspect of "the blue wall of silence."
The lies they are telling are very typical. When police do something wrong, they start immediately to doctor up the story and the evidence in their favor. They say the preacher hit one of them with the car. The descriptions I have read of the surveillance video don't back that up. Even if he had hit one of them, I suspect the cops looked like bad guys closing in fast who would hurt him.(And that turned out to be true.) Police are allowed to lie in the course of their work and during interregations. I think if a person does enough of that, the line between lying and truth-telling becomes blurred, then lost. Lying, like anything else, becomes a habit after enough repetition.
I have a friend whose two parents were in law enforcement and were both undercover cops at some point. He says for many purposes, he believes police must be regarded as one more kind of gang running loose in society. I have definitely seen things myself that tend to corroborate that view.
If police want to regain and maintain the respect of American society, they will need to do something to become moral people again. They will have to rejoin respectable American society somehow. Killing a preacher who gave a free ride to someone needing to hear his message does not help their cause.
Ignorance and immaturity are responsible for the above post and the producers of Topix apologize for the content...

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#8 Nov 26, 2009
Since police are responsible for controlling drugs, parents should sue police departments if their kids wind up addicted to drugs.

DUB

Since: Mar 08

North East Ga

#9 Nov 27, 2009
Richard_ wrote:
Since police are responsible for controlling drugs, parents should sue police departments if their kids wind up addicted to drugs.
Again this makes as much sense as the rest of the post you have thrown up. None of which contain any shred of truth or intelligent opinion

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#10 Nov 27, 2009
DUB wrote:
<quoted text> You consider music stars and NFL players ahead of police officers as role models. Let's think about that seriously. By shear numbers, NFL players and professional musicians have a higher percentage of criminal activity and recidivism than any branch of law enforcement.
You'd have to be almost legally insane to not understand the absurdity of your comments. Nice try, though.

DUB

Since: Mar 08

North East Ga

#11 Nov 28, 2009
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>You'd have to be almost legally insane to not understand the absurdity of your comments. Nice try, though.
Explain the absurdity of that, you made a comment not only mentioning athletes and musicians, you made a statement elevating those individuals to a status of reverence and admiration who were morally superior to law enforcement officers. Now that is absurd.

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#12 Nov 28, 2009
DUB wrote:
<quoted text>Explain the absurdity of that, you made a comment not only mentioning athletes and musicians, you made a statement elevating those individuals to a status of reverence and admiration who were morally superior to law enforcement officers. Now that is absurd.
Police officers are tax paid semi-professional bureaucratic servants that create nothing of value. Entertainers are private sector, free market entrepreneurs who employ others through their person creativity.

DUB

Since: Mar 08

North East Ga

#13 Nov 29, 2009
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Police officers are tax paid semi-professional bureaucratic servants that create nothing of value. Entertainers are private sector, free market entrepreneurs who employ others through their person creativity.
Nothing of value? Ahhhhhhhh you have lost all connection with reality?

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#14 Nov 29, 2009
Better check breaking national news, 4 cops in Washington state got greased in a donut shop while playing on their laptops. I heard that shop's crullers were to "die for", but keep that under your hat or everybody will want one.

DUB

Since: Mar 08

North East Ga

#15 Nov 29, 2009
Richard_ wrote:
Better check breaking national news, 4 cops in Washington state got greased in a donut shop while playing on their laptops. I heard that shop's crullers were to "die for", but keep that under your hat or everybody will want one.
And this comment is why you will not and have never been taken seriously....

“Uzi Does It”

Since: Nov 08

UZILAND

#16 Nov 29, 2009
DUB wrote:
<quoted text>And this comment is why you will not and have never been taken seriously....
Every dark cloud has a silver lining. Tomorrow, a lot of people will be getting phone calls from their lawyers telling them that their cases will be dismissed due to the officers not being able to make their court dates. So, the news isn't all gloom and doom.
Ron

Bay Minette, AL

#17 Dec 21, 2009
>>> and the producers of Topix apologize for the content
=
Actually, they did get away with executing Rev Ayers... why apologize for them?

DUB

Since: Mar 08

North East Ga

#18 Dec 21, 2009
Seems like somebody doesn't watch the news... check the latest news release... seems Mr. Ayers knew they were officers and they didn't have any guns out until he ran, then he fought with people at the scene rendering aid trying to leave again, then it came to pass he had been having sex with the woman for years and he had made 16 phone calls to her that day before he arrived. Seems like the family should be a little shocked.. or maybe they won't be...
Ron

Bay Minette, AL

#19 Dec 21, 2009
News release by whom? I'm calling your bluff. Remember, this story has changed in reaction to the truth at every change. I get you are thrilled cops killed an innocent man. Cops always have their groupies. That speaks for your upbringing and values. If you are not the liar I believe you to be; post the authenticated source of your excuses... If you don't, the whole world knows who and what you are. AND even if he'd been having sex; I understand why you can't relate to someone having sex; but it's not a capital offense.

DUB

Since: Mar 08

North East Ga

#20 Dec 21, 2009
Ron wrote:
News release by whom? I'm calling your bluff. Remember, this story has changed in reaction to the truth at every change. I get you are thrilled cops killed an innocent man. Cops always have their groupies. That speaks for your upbringing and values. If you are not the liar I believe you to be; post the authenticated source of your excuses... If you don't, the whole world knows who and what you are. AND even if he'd been having sex; I understand why you can't relate to someone having sex; but it's not a capital offense.
Watch the news, check any Atlanta station and the report is there along with video of the interviews, the phone bill, and the enhanced video. But again that won't satisfy you...but the truth never will.

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