Police investigating after pastor killed in sting

A 28-year-old pastor killed by drug task-force agents this week was a father-to-be who settled in a small town where he felt called to the ministry, a relative said Thursday.

[undercover angel]

how much longer are we going to allow police to murder inocent people in the name of failed drug policy.another life wasted in a atempt to protect big pharmicutical companys proffits .and thier quest to keep lots of bodies in the prison system .police have become dispicable proffiteers in human misery

[fancyangelrose]

I don't understand why the law officers went after an unarmed man. If you had guns drawn on you and you had done nothing wrong you would want to get away too. My heart and prayers go out to his family and loved ones. A child is going to have to grow up without a father. The officers of today are so determined to a make a bust but never help victims who are violated by crime. They are suppose to serve and protect not kill innocent people.

[flipper]

undercover angel wrote:

how much longer are we going to allow police to murder inocent people in the name of failed drug policy.another life wasted in a atempt to protect big pharmicutical companys proffits .and thier quest to keep lots of bodies in the prison system .police have become dispicable proffiteers in human misery

Sorry, attempting to run over a cop who is telling you to halt should be a crime. If the cop has his gun out, and you're going to be using your car as a weapon, you have a choice.....Halt, or see whose weapon wins.
Pastor made a bad choice, he lost.

[Richard_]

flipper wrote:

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Sorry, attempting to run over a cop who is telling you to halt should be a crime.

These police weren't in marked police vehicles and they were probably wearing fatigues and camo pants, so they looked like drug lords or home invasion burglars, or half of the crap that getso on "America's most wanted" as some sort of scam artist.

[Atticus Finch]

Richard_ wrote:

<quoted text>These police weren't in marked police vehicles and they were probably wearing fatigues and camo pants, so they looked like drug lords or home invasion burglars, or half of the crap that getso on "America's most wanted" as some sort of scam artist.

http://www.wnegradio.com/2009_09_01_archive-n...

Thanks to "Maria Antonia Operating On Batteries" for the link.

[Maria Antonia]

Atticus Finch wrote:

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http://www.wnegradio.com/2009_09_01_archive-n...
Thanks to "Maria Antonia Operating On Batteries" for the link.

lol

[undercover angel]

let this be a lesson to us church goers were on the police hit list also.drug war sucks so does these gestapo cops

[The Sage]

Atticus Finch wrote:

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http://www.wnegradio.com/2009_09_01_archive-n...
Thanks to "Maria Antonia Operating On Batteries" for the link.

Thanks for proving me right again, Quota Girl! Where is your outrage over this shooting?? You have none! Could it be because the Pastor is WHITE??

You'll lie and make excuses for a convicted black rapist, even when his victim was an innocent black female!

[Okuba_Toshimichi]

Richard_ wrote:

<quoted text>These police weren't in marked police vehicles and they were probably wearing fatigues and camo pants, so they looked like drug lords or home invasion burglars, or half of the crap that getso on "America's most wanted" as some sort of scam artist.

Actually, according to reports (confirmed by witnesses at the scene), the officers identified themselves and had their badges hung around their necks. Mr Ayers tried to flee the scene and struck one of the officers with his vehicle. The police, in the heat of the moment, obviously took that action to mean that Ayers was using his vehicle as a weapon and responded accordingly.

You are a bunch of armchair quarterbacks. It easy to sit back and reflect on these events and say that the officers should have done this or that. Its another thing entirely when you have to make decisions in the few seconds required for this tragedy to unfold. The officers responded with their instincts and training. They didn't know who Ayers was or what he was doing. All they saw was a suspect strike one of their number with his car and then try to flee the scene.

Hiyaa!

[John Doe]

perhaps when a police officer identifies themself and tells you to stop, the correct answer is not to try and run them over.

[fancyangelrose]

Has it ever occurred to you that the preacher was making a split decision himself and was afraid for his own life when he backed the car to leave. He was in a panic and didn't intentionally mean to hit the undercover cop. These guys drew guns on a preacher he probably didn't even know whar was going on. I still feel that they could have handled this differently.

[Maria Antonia Unplugged]

Clip of long article from a local Northeast Georgian newspaper....

"Bankhead (he's the GBI guy) emphasized that Ayers was not involved in any drug transaction. "It was first suspected, when he was observed with the target, but was later determined there was no connection to drugs, " Bankhead said. "There was another situation involved that we cannot discuss." Shirley (he's the Stephens County Sheriff (Toccoa)) confirmed that the target of the narcotics/prostitution investigation was not in the vehicle with Ayers when the incident occurred, and said that she was in custody and had been questioned."

[goober peas]

i like the way cops jump in front of a moving vechicle then soot the driver .they are gun toting sycopaths who just want to kill .and for what .shooting someone they suspect was involved with a drug user .and to think police have the kahoonas to wonder why they are hated .its just not wort killing somebody over suspected drug use .police will not stop this murderouse rampage till they are held pesonaly liable and have to pay damages out of ther own pockets .till then us tax payers will pay while cops get ther jollies killing folks im sick of it.

[tabano]

flipper wrote:

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Sorry, attempting to run over a cop who is telling you to halt should be a crime. If the cop has his gun out, and you're going to be using your car as a weapon, you have a choice.....Halt, or see whose weapon wins.
Pastor made a bad choice, he lost.

There is no evidence that he knew they were cops. The evidence indcates that he thought he was being mugged. Self -defence.

There is also no evidence that they identified themselves. That lie came out only after they realized they had murdered an important person in town.

Even if they did show a badge, it doesent matter. Anybody can buy a mock badge. Considering their extreme behavior, anybody would have thought they were being robbed.

He was in thew store long enough for them to call marked cars. They just wanted to grand-stand.

[fancyangelrose]

I agree tabano, Like I said before they could have handled this differently. If you look at the vehicle in the video they jump out like they they were about to high jack somebody or something. They were not in marked police cars or in uniform. This preacher lost his life for trying to protect himself. This really is sad for his family and his church he pastored.

[Richard_]

Okuba_Toshimichi wrote:

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Actually, according to reports (confirmed by witnesses at the scene), the officers identified themselves and had their badges hung around their necks.

They looked like tank top wearing stick up men with fake badges from a ceral box, who were luck if they wearing the required NFL or NBA logo'd baseball cap sideways like a rap star.

Regardless, they murdered some random guy who happened to be innocent and not part of their sting, they are going down and this will be a lesson learned for future police who do not want to lose their pensions, become sued and wind up in prison, divorced and pennyless.

[Richard_]

John Doe wrote:

perhaps when a police officer identifies themself and tells you to stop, the correct answer is not to try and run them over.

Police officers are in police cars wearing police uniforms and are the servants of the PEOPLE, not the other way around.

Fortunately, the PEOPLE will have their say when they be sitting on the criminal trial juries of these thugs who forgot who their freaking boss is.

[Richard_]

Okuba_Toshimichi wrote:

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They didn't know who Ayers was or what he was doing.

Police don't have the authority to sieze people just because and by your own words you described a negligent homicide state crime against the police and a federal crime of illegal siezure against the police, refernce Tennesee v. Garner:

http://supreme.justia.com/us/471/1/

U.S. Supreme Court
Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (1985)
Tennessee v. Garner

No. 83-1035

Argued October 30, 1984

Decided March 27, 1985*

471 U.S. 1

Syllabus

A Tennessee statute provides that, if, after a police officer has given notice of an intent to arrest a criminal suspect, the suspect flees or forcibly resists, "the officer may use all the necessary means to effect the arrest." Acting under the authority of this statute, a Memphis police officer shot and killed appellee-respondent Garner's son as, after being told to halt, the son fled over a fence at night in the backyard of a house he was suspected of burglarizing. The officer used deadly force despite being "reasonably sure" the suspect was unarmed and thinking that he was 17 or 18 years old, and of slight build. The father subsequently brought an action in Federal District Court, seeking damages under 42 U.S.C.§ 1983 for asserted violations of his son's constitutional rights. The District Court held that the statute and the officer's actions were constitutional. The Court of Appeals reversed.

Held: The Tennessee statute is unconstitutional insofar as it authorizes the use of deadly force against, as in this case, an apparently unarmed, nondangerous fleeing suspect; such force may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.

[Atticus Finch]

In the ambulance he said "who shot me?"

I dentifying yourself doesn't mean identifying yourself so that you can hear and understand you. Rather, it means identifying yourself so that the other person can understand you.

Kathryn Johnston case all over again, with policemen who should be in jail running around trying to find "informants" to tell some lies on their behalf. Georgia police are sooo sick.

[The Sage]

Atticus Finch wrote:

In the ambulance he said "who shot me?"
I dentifying yourself doesn't mean identifying yourself so that you can hear and understand you. Rather, it means identifying yourself so that the other person can understand you.
Kathryn Johnston case all over again, with policemen who should be in jail running around trying to find "informants" to tell some lies on their behalf. Georgia police are sooo sick.

Oh, NOW you try to recover from this one.

Nice try, racist girl!

Quota Girl!!