`Redneck Shop' Creates Dispute in S.C.

Mar 10, 2008 Full story: Dayton Daily News 38

“In the long run, the sword is defeated by the mind. I want to destroy the concept of hatred.”

More... More... By KATRINA A. GOGGINS LAURENS, S.C. -- A black civil rights activist is fighting to close a store that sells KKK robes and T-shirts emblazoned with racial slurs. via Dayton Daily News

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Easley, SC

#24 Mar 12, 2008
I have said this before What you may think or like or do isn't always right for everyone. Or everyone may not like what you or I would. Each to there own. If you don't agree with it then don't shop there. Maybe he don't like something you have in your yard or something with your house. But is it right for someone else to say that its right or wrong. I think the person is old enough to pick what he wants to do and to know what he is doing. He doesn't have to answer to no one but himself and god. He s store is no diff than the NAACP Black Panthers KKK or any of the GAngs that are out there. There are good things and bad things about any group or a person or any other thing you ll come across in life. Just like a place that let girls dance or a bar or many other things that the goverment or groups church s schools etc. If you pick over something long enough you ll find something or someone that doesn;t like it. The state of south carolina should spend there time with more important things like our school systerms. These teachers have sex with young kids babys. When they should be teaching class. About the lack of jobs and the homeless. Instead of things thats not as important. Just what point of view.
pastorbrenda24_2 0032000

Canton, IL

#25 Mar 13, 2008
End the KKK trend.It is now getting old. Slavery is now over. It's time to love not hate.
racism cant hide

Philadelphia, PA

#26 Mar 13, 2008
bill wrote:
These are the actions of a black man!!!!
AUBURN, Ala. The man accused of killing Auburn University freshman Lauren Burk and leaving her to die is due in court Monday at the same time a campus-wide memorial service is planned to honor the Georgia teen.
THESE ARE THE ACTIONS OF THREE WHITE RACIST MEN
Jury selection begins in dragging death murder trial Byrd January 26, 1999 Web posted at: 12:27 a.m. EST (0527 GMT) JASPER, Texas (CNN)-- The defendant buried his head in his hands Monday as the prosecutor told potential jurors why they should give avowed white supremacist John William King the death penalty for his alleged role in the killing of a black man. King, 24, and two other men are accused of stripping James Byrd Jr. last summer, chaining him to a pickup truck and dragging him for two miles until his head was severed. Guy James Gray, Jasper County district attorney, briefly outlined the details of the Byrd's death Monday. "James Byrd at the time he was chained at the back of the pickup truck was alive," Gray said. "Not only was he alive, he was conscious at the time, and he was using his elbows and his body in any way he could to keep his head and shoulders away from the pavement." The prosecutor said Byrd's shredded body was left outside a black cemetery "as some form of a message." Gray also told the jury pool that he was "not a great fan" of the death penalty but felt it was correct to apply it in some cases. "There are times and circumstances where it seems to me that it is the only appropriate and right sentence," he said. Defense Attorney Sonny Cribbs spoke against the death penalty in his opening remarks to potential jurors. "I'll tell you up front. I don't believe in the death penalty," said Cribbs. "I just don't think it is a proper punishment for any case, period." By Monday afternoon, the jury pool was reduced to 122 people, 21 of them black. It is expected to take up to three weeks of additional questioning to whittle that pool down to 12 jurors and two alternates for a trial that is expected to last one week. The killing shocked the nation and the world, drawing new focus to racial crimes. There were gatherings in the town of 8,000 of the Ku Klux Klan and the New Black Panthers.King, an ex-convict once involved in a racist prison gang, wore a bulletproof vest as he was escorted into the Jasper County Courthouse. In place of shackles in the courtroom, King wore a 50,000 volt electric belt tied around his waist. Whether King intended to kidnap Byrd and then to kill him will be a key contention in the capital murder case. And if King is convicted, that same factor could help determine whether he is sentenced to life in prison or put to death by lethal injection. Defendant: I'm "White and Proud"
King has denied killing Byrd. In a letter published November 11 in the Dallas Morning News, King said Shawn Allen Berry, his friend since high school, killed Byrd in a soured drug deal. He said Berry previously bought steroids from Byrd. But the prosecutor said there was no evidence to support King's claims. King has denied that he had ties to racist groups, but ended the letter with the declaration: "I, John W. King, remain White and Proud." Berry, 23, whose engraved wrench was found near Byrd's body, was the only defendant to give a statement about events leading to Byrd's death. But his statement is legally inadmissible unless he testifies, and his attorney says he won't permit Berry on the stand without a plea agreement. King, Berry and the third man accused of Byrd's murder, Lawrence Russell Brewer, 31, were roommates. Jurors and spectators entering the courthouse passed through newly-acquired metal detectors. One woman was arrested when she tried to pass through a detector while carrying a gun. Security at the courthouse was increased following the incident.
The murder also attracted media attention to the East Texas timber town just west of the Louisiana border.
racism cant hide

Philadelphia, PA

#27 Mar 13, 2008
bill wrote:
These are the actions of a black man!!!!
AUBURN, Ala. The man accused of killing Auburn University freshman Lauren Burk and leaving her to die is due in court Monday at the same time a campus-wide memorial service is planned to honor the Georgia teen.
Jury selection begins in dragging death murder trial

Byrd
January 26, 1999
Web posted at: 12:27 a.m. EST (0527 GMT)
JASPER, Texas (CNN)-- The defendant buried his head in his hands Monday as the prosecutor told potential jurors why they should give avowed white supremacist John William King the death penalty for his alleged role in the killing of a black man. King, 24, and two other men are accused of stripping James Byrd Jr. last summer, chaining him to a pickup truck and dragging him for two miles until his head was severed. Guy James Gray, Jasper County district attorney, briefly outlined the details of the Byrd's death Monday. "James Byrd at the time he was chained at the back of the pickup truck was alive," Gray said. "Not only was he alive, he was conscious at the time, and he was using his elbows and his body in any way he could to keep his head and shoulders away from the pavement." The prosecutor said Byrd's shredded body was left outside a black cemetery "as some form of a message." Gray also told the jury pool that he was "not a great fan" of the death penalty but felt it was correct to apply it in some cases. "There are times and circumstances where it seems to me that it is the only appropriate and right sentence," he said. Defense Attorney Sonny Cribbs spoke against the death penalty in his opening remarks to potential jurors. "I'll tell you up front. I don't believe in the death penalty," said Cribbs. "I just don't think it is a proper punishment for any case, period." By Monday afternoon, the jury pool was reduced to 122 people, 21 of them black. It is expected to take up to three weeks of additional questioning to whittle that pool down to 12 jurors and two alternates for a trial that is expected to last one week. The killing shocked the nation and the world, drawing new focus to racial crimes. There were gatherings in the town of 8,000 of the Ku Klux Klan and the New Black Panthers.King, an ex-convict once involved in a racist prison gang, wore a bulletproof vest as he was escorted into the Jasper County Courthouse. In place of shackles in the courtroom, King wore a 50,000 volt electric belt tied around his waist. Whether King intended to kidnap Byrd and then to kill him will be a key contention in the capital murder case. And if King is convicted, that same factor could help determine whether he is sentenced to life in prison or put to death by lethal injection. Defendant: I'm "White and Proud"
King has denied killing Byrd. In a letter published November 11 in the Dallas Morning News, King said Shawn Allen Berry, his friend since high school, killed Byrd in a soured drug deal. He said Berry previously bought steroids from Byrd. But the prosecutor said there was no evidence to support King's claims. King has denied that he had ties to racist groups, but ended the letter with the declaration: "I, John W. King, remain White and Proud." Berry, 23, whose engraved wrench was found near Byrd's body, was the only defendant to give a statement about events leading to Byrd's death. But his statement is legally inadmissible unless he testifies, and his attorney says he won't permit Berry on the stand without a plea agreement. King, Berry and the third man accused of Byrd's murder, Lawrence Russell Brewer, 31, were roommates. Jurors and spectators entering the courthouse passed through newly-acquired metal detectors. One woman was arrested when she tried to pass through a detector while carrying a gun. Security at the courthouse was increased following the incident.
The murder also attracted media attention to the East Texas timber town just west of the Louisiana border.
racism cant hide

Philadelphia, PA

#29 Mar 13, 2008
Jury selection begins in dragging death murder trial

Byrd
January 26, 1999
Web posted at: 12:27 a.m. EST (0527 GMT)
JASPER, Texas (CNN)-- The defendant buried his head in his hands Monday as the prosecutor told potential jurors why they should give avowed white supremacist John William King the death penalty for his alleged role in the killing of a black man. King, 24, and two other men are accused of stripping James Byrd Jr. last summer, chaining him to a pickup truck and dragging him for two miles until his head was severed. Guy James Gray, Jasper County district attorney, briefly outlined the details of the Byrd's death Monday. "James Byrd at the time he was chained at the back of the pickup truck was alive," Gray said. "Not only was he alive, he was conscious at the time, and he was using his elbows and his body in any way he could to keep his head and shoulders away from the pavement." The prosecutor said Byrd's shredded body was left outside a black cemetery "as some form of a message." Gray also told the jury pool that he was "not a great fan" of the death penalty but felt it was correct to apply it in some cases. "There are times and circumstances where it seems to me that it is the only appropriate and right sentence," he said. Defense Attorney Sonny Cribbs spoke against the death penalty in his opening remarks to potential jurors. "I'll tell you up front. I don't believe in the death penalty," said Cribbs. "I just don't think it is a proper punishment for any case, period." By Monday afternoon, the jury pool was reduced to 122 people, 21 of them black. It is expected to take up to three weeks of additional questioning to whittle that pool down to 12 jurors and two alternates for a trial that is expected to last one week. The killing shocked the nation and the world, drawing new focus to racial crimes. There were gatherings in the town of 8,000 of the Ku Klux Klan and the New Black Panthers.King, an ex-convict once involved in a racist prison gang, wore a bulletproof vest as he was escorted into the Jasper County Courthouse. In place of shackles in the courtroom, King wore a 50,000 volt electric belt tied around his waist. Whether King intended to kidnap Byrd and then to kill him will be a key contention in the capital murder case. And if King is convicted, that same factor could help determine whether he is sentenced to life in prison or put to death by lethal injection. Defendant: I'm "White and Proud"
King has denied killing Byrd. In a letter published November 11 in the Dallas Morning News, King said Shawn Allen Berry, his friend since high school, killed Byrd in a soured drug deal. He said Berry previously bought steroids from Byrd. But the prosecutor said there was no evidence to support King's claims. King has denied that he had ties to racist groups, but ended the letter with the declaration: "I, John W. King, remain White and Proud." Berry, 23, whose engraved wrench was found near Byrd's body, was the only defendant to give a statement about events leading to Byrd's death. But his statement is legally inadmissible unless he testifies, and his attorney says he won't permit Berry on the stand without a plea agreement. King, Berry and the third man accused of Byrd's murder, Lawrence Russell Brewer, 31, were roommates. Jurors and spectators entering the courthouse passed through newly-acquired metal detectors. One woman was arrested when she tried to pass through a detector while carrying a gun. Security at the courthouse was increased following the incident.
The murder also attracted media attention to the East Texas timber town just west of the Louisiana border.

“Greetings from the Twin Cities”

Since: Apr 07

Bloomington, MN

#30 Mar 13, 2008
racism cant hide, what is the point of your posts? I was in the Texas prison system and was in a cell right next to one of these guys. To hear their story, Byrd owed them some money for dope. That was the reason they dragged him. Of course their affiliation with the Aryan Brotherhood in their last trip to prison didn't help the case.
As I said earlier, until we stop trying to find differences between each other and start seeing the similarities, racism will be lingering around.
Brittany S

Ware Shoals, SC

#31 Mar 13, 2008
Papy La Blanc wrote:
We should also close down every Nation Of Islam building and every racist church Obama attends.I support the KKK and do not support the racist NAACP.
Thank you that is the truth. if we have to close our shops down they should too!

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#32 Mar 13, 2008
even if we see similarities, there are still differences. so i think that would make your point moot.

“Greetings from the Twin Cities”

Since: Apr 07

Bloomington, MN

#33 Mar 14, 2008
lastword, how so? yes there are differences between a banana and an apple, but they are both fruits. We have to start trying to assimilate to one another while still respecting the individual. Until we stop making divisive statements such as "our stores" versus "their stores," we will forever be separated. Shouldn't it just be an "inappropriate store.?"
Now, I am concerned with Obama's church. But that is an issue for another thread...
racism cant hide

Philadelphia, PA

#34 Mar 14, 2008
nakedlobo wrote:
racism cant hide, what is the point of your posts? I was in the Texas prison system and was in a cell right next to one of these guys. To hear their story, Byrd owed them some money for dope. That was the reason they dragged him. Of course their affiliation with the Aryan Brotherhood in their last trip to prison didn't help the case.
As I said earlier, until we stop trying to find differences between each other and start seeing the similarities, racism will be lingering around.
in answer to the idi0t who I replied to about a Black man did this. I am tired of people wanting to look the other way. I experienced this nonsense, even up north with a racist teacher wearing his klann outfit to school. until the cowards are stopped and punished, this racism will continue. Byrd didn't ask to be stripped naked and dragged for miles. He was alive for most of that time. those guys knew what they were doing and dope had nothing to do with it. one poster even said that they were raped in jail, so we should feel sorry for them. did your "neighbor" tell you that? if it happened, it is an unfortunate consequence of being in jail. I don't believe in the death penalty, but they certainly deserve it.
racism cant hide

Philadelphia, PA

#35 Mar 14, 2008
nakedlobo wrote:
lastword, how so? yes there are differences between a banana and an apple, but they are both fruits. We have to start trying to assimilate to one another while still respecting the individual. Until we stop making divisive statements such as "our stores" versus "their stores," we will forever be separated. Shouldn't it just be an "inappropriate store.?"
Now, I am concerned with Obama's church. But that is an issue for another thread...
the church that Obama goes to is on another thread. but I am more concerned with the ongoing discovery of pedophile priests being shipped around to other churches to continue their rape of innocent children. the consequences of which are millions of dollars in payments to the abused, and nuns being kicked out of their nunnery so it can be sold for these payments. why are they selling property of the priests to pay. priests don't seem to take a vow of poverty, and those nuns are old and very poor, and the catholics making the decision don't seem to be helping them at all.

“Greetings from the Twin Cities”

Since: Apr 07

Bloomington, MN

#36 Mar 14, 2008
Gotcha! The thread makes more sense now.
Anyone who told you that the guys involved with the Byrd dragging were raped is lying. These guys are in solitary (protective custody) and will do all of their time there. They will never be put out in general population. They get to spend 23 1/2 hours a day ALONE! Which is where they deserve to be.
racism cant hide

Philadelphia, PA

#37 Mar 14, 2008
nakedlobo wrote:
Gotcha! The thread makes more sense now.
Anyone who told you that the guys involved with the Byrd dragging were raped is lying. These guys are in solitary (protective custody) and will do all of their time there. They will never be put out in general population. They get to spend 23 1/2 hours a day ALONE! Which is where they deserve to be.
thank you. I just get tired of the nonsense about crime being caused by only one race. the crack cocaine sentencing is just one of the injustices being done by the law. and, no, don't think that I don't want people punished who break the law, but the time sentenced is 100 times for crack versus powder, which has been proven discriminatory. just to see lindsey lohan get off after being caught possessing powder cocaine two times recently is not actually a case in point, but it shows part of the problem. cocaine is cocaine, and a judge refused to go by the sentencing guidelines which has now had the court reversing this law and hundreds of people will be freed early, some in jail for 15-20 years for their first offense!

Since: Mar 08

CHAMBERSBURG PA

#39 Apr 8, 2008
racism cant hide wrote:
<quoted text>
thank you. I just get tired of the nonsense about crime being caused by only one race. the crack cocaine sentencing is just one of the injustices being done by the law. and, no, don't think that I don't want people punished who break the law, but the time sentenced is 100 times for crack versus powder, which has been proven discriminatory. just to see lindsey lohan get off after being caught possessing powder cocaine two times recently is not actually a case in point, but it shows part of the problem. cocaine is cocaine, and a judge refused to go by the sentencing guidelines which has now had the court reversing this law and hundreds of people will be freed early, some in jail for 15-20 years for their first offense!
Um, don't know if you know about the drug thing but you get less time for having cocaine than you do for CRACK. We all know that COKE is the base for CRACK and in the eyes of the beholder it is stonger. COKE is pure while CRACK is processed. COKE is used to lace other drugs such as HERION, WEED, HASH, and "E".

You get the same time for possessing "E" and HERION just as you would crack.

You can go to JAIL for a CRACK CRUMB, just as you can get probation for a weed seed.

Does it make sense??? NO. I do agree there should be a guideline but who is going to make it? and who is going to stick by it? There is a guideline a judge is to follow and all jails are over populated with ex cons and drug dealers.....

You gotta love that justice system.

Since: Mar 08

CHAMBERSBURG PA

#40 Apr 8, 2008
Papy La Blanc wrote:
We should also close down every Nation Of Islam building and every racist church Obama attends.I support the KKK and do not support the racist NAACP.
If you are racist who needs your support? You can stand up for your rights without prejudice....or injustice.....sometimes "we" cant and we need to call on our higher officials....the NAACP helps sometimes...mayb not you
racists are neanderthals

Philadelphia, PA

#41 Apr 10, 2008
the store needs to be closed! but, not to worry, because the "browning" of America is going on now and those racist idiots better learn Spanish.
racism cant hide

Philadelphia, PA

#42 Apr 10, 2008
LET THE TRUTH B TOLD wrote:
<quoted text>
Um, don't know if you know about the drug thing but you get less time for having cocaine than you do for CRACK. We all know that COKE is the base for CRACK and in the eyes of the beholder it is stonger. COKE is pure while CRACK is processed. COKE is used to lace other drugs such as HERION, WEED, HASH, and "E".
You get the same time for possessing "E" and HERION just as you would crack.
You can go to JAIL for a CRACK CRUMB, just as you can get probation for a weed seed.
Does it make sense??? NO. I do agree there should be a guideline but who is going to make it? and who is going to stick by it? There is a guideline a judge is to follow and all jails are over populated with ex cons and drug dealers.....
You gotta love that justice system.
that was my point, that crack cocaine possession is punished at 100 times the rate as powder cocaine. look at Lindsey Lohan, caught twice with powder cocaine, but didn't serve a day.
racism cant hide

Philadelphia, PA

#43 Apr 10, 2008
i.e., processed or not, crack and powder still comes from the same source.

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