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Anteater

Palm Springs, CA

#1 Dec 11, 2012
Isn't it time that someone opens a cool cupcake store in the Greater Latrobe Area? True...downtown Latrobe may not be the 1st choice but how about Route 30? Seems that all around the country new flavors are being introduced. How about a Baily's Irish Cream Cupcake for starters? Have never seen that. Check out the show called DC Cupcakes to get some ideas. Could be a very lucrative project for someone who is creative, likes to bake and has a lot of positive energy. Good luck to you!
tnttom

Pittsburgh, PA

#2 Dec 11, 2012
I will stick to my McDonald's apple pies and Sheetz donuts.
Krispy Creme

Greensburg, PA

#3 Dec 11, 2012
Anteater wrote:
Isn't it time that someone opens a cool cupcake store in the Greater Latrobe Area? True...downtown Latrobe may not be the 1st choice but how about Route 30? Seems that all around the country new flavors are being introduced. How about a Baily's Irish Cream Cupcake for starters? Have never seen that. Check out the show called DC Cupcakes to get some ideas. Could be a very lucrative project for someone who is creative, likes to bake and has a lot of positive energy. Good luck to you!
One more fattening chain store, yes bring it and more pizza places to Latrobe to fatten the population into worse diabetes and obesity.
Anteater

Palm Springs, CA

#4 Dec 11, 2012
Krispy Creme wrote:
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One more fattening chain store, yes bring it and more pizza places to Latrobe to fatten the population into worse diabetes and obesity.
Eating 1 cupcake does not equal obesity, girlfriend. I am not suggesting one should eat a dozen cupcakes! RE: pizza.1 slice does not equal obesity. I am not suggesting one should eat an entire pizza! What are you thinking? Get a grip. Time for someone to start reading up on nutrition...or perhaps just take a walk...burn off some calories (or pent up hostility toward sweets!)

Since: Jan 11

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#5 Dec 11, 2012
The booming shopping area out on Route 30 doesn't exactly cater to the $3 cupcake crowd with such high end shopping experiences as Walmart, K-Mart, Big Lots and Lowes. Good place to set up a hot dog cart maybe.

Cupcake shops are more of a cafe type of business, and the Route 30 shopping strip is anything but friendly to that sort of business. People in SWPA drive to the liquor store at one end of a shopping center, then get in their cars and drive to the pharmacy 100 yards away at the other end.
mmhhhmmm

Irwin, PA

#6 Dec 11, 2012
There are a few ladies who make different cupcakes in the area. Facebook is where they can be found
Krispy Creme

Greensburg, PA

#7 Dec 11, 2012
Jim Moz wrote:
The booming shopping area out on Route 30 doesn't exactly cater to the $3 cupcake crowd with such high end shopping experiences as Walmart, K-Mart, Big Lots and Lowes. Good place to set up a hot dog cart maybe.
Cupcake shops are more of a cafe type of business, and the Route 30 shopping strip is anything but friendly to that sort of business. People in SWPA drive to the liquor store at one end of a shopping center, then get in their cars and drive to the pharmacy 100 yards away at the other end.
I just went into Cafe Bean, Route 30, to learn that they get so little evening business that the close at 6 pm on weekdays. Now, that's a shame. They close at 5:00 pm on weekends.

No one in the area wants to go to a cafe'.

I asked about St. V kids coming in and the barrista said, "oh they came in, but they didn't spend any money in the evening!"

So, yea,$3.00 cupcakes will never fly along Route 30 or anywhere else in Westmoreland County.
Anteater

Palm Springs, CA

#8 Dec 11, 2012
Where did you come up with $3? I never wrote that.
You've got problems. Cupcakes are not exactly expensive to make.It is more about creativity...doing something that no one else does. Being unique. Hey,YOU came up with price...$3 cupcakes...I didn't. Please...for the sake of commerce, promise us that you will not become a motivational speaker. Have you ever read how Krispy Kreme got started? Perhaps you should. They wanted to create something different with the old standby donut. Hmmm...glad they didn't have you around to shoot down their idea. They took a chance. Now they are laughing all the way to the bank.Even when they cash out at their Route 30 store. Lots of luck to you, Ms/Mr negative.
Anteater

Palm Springs, CA

#10 Dec 12, 2012
Thanks for the info.
Not interested in a national franchise. Was just suggesting an idea to someone who wants to create a business in his or her own way that offers new culinary delights to the area. Cupcakes are the rage all over the country especially for those who don't want to buy an entire cake that might go to waste or be eaten in a moment of weakness. It is easier to stop at one cupcake than it is to stop at one piece (when the rest of the cake is staring at you in the face just waiting for you to bite...literally!)
Okonak Supporter

Latrobe, PA

#11 Dec 12, 2012
Great idea Anteater!!!! What you just experienced was the typical mentality of the area. Knock it down, kick it and be as negative as possible. I think your idea is FABULOUS. For the record, one should only eat one cupcake as you said. Yet again, you witnessed the typical mentality to assume one would over indulge....
Bluetooth

Rancho Mirage, CA

#12 Dec 12, 2012
Check out SPRINKLES
Krispy Creme

Greensburg, PA

#13 Dec 12, 2012
Okonak Supporter wrote:
Great idea Anteater!!!! What you just experienced was the typical mentality of the area. Knock it down, kick it and be as negative as possible. I think your idea is FABULOUS. For the record, one should only eat one cupcake as you said. Yet again, you witnessed the typical mentality to assume one would over indulge....
How many cupcakes per day at $3.00 each would need to be sold to sustain a small business in downtown Latrobe?

MONTHLY BUDGET

$1500 rent + utilities + phone + internet
$2500 wages for one person = baker/owner/counter person
$0800 insurances, advertising
$1500 wages for one other person, to do everything
$1500 baking supplies + paper + cardboard containers

$7800 total monthly budget
$1200 additional wages costs for insurances and taxes

$9000 TOTAL ESTIMATED MONTHLY BUDGET

=

3000 cupcakes sold PER MONTH

=

100 cupcakes sold PER DAY

Will 100 people venture into downtown Latrobe to buy a $3.00 cupcake? when they can buy $1.00 pastries at the 2-long-standing pastry shoppes and can buy $3.00 pastries at the Art Center?

Answer:

BAD IDEA = REDUNDANT service/product provided at too high of a price for the population.
Krispy Creme

Greensburg, PA

#14 Dec 12, 2012
Plus, the $3.00 cupcakes actually will cost:

$3.50

since the visitor to downtown Latrobe will have to pay for parking, and people in Latrobe just won't spend that, on a pastry.

Valley Dairy provides entire breakfasts for $4.99-6.99 and is barely surviving - and it has free-parking.
Krispy Creme

Greensburg, PA

#15 Dec 12, 2012
Plus, there are the payments for the small business loan needed to open to buy the kitchen, counters, registers, let's say that's a $30,000 loan.

OR:

There's the franchise buy in fee.

Either way, that adds hundreds of dollars a month to the above budget.
eatabagodicks

Pittsburgh, PA

#16 Dec 12, 2012
Loews prefab barn: 2000.00 (one time cost,)
Rented 20 X 20 space in front of Rusbosin: for said prefab barn:$75 a month
Drive through window:$50.00
Small re-chargeable inverter system for lighting and other electric:$250.00
Honda generator:$1000.00
Commercial Espresso cart machine:$3000.00
Unemployed sister in law to make cupcakes when sitting at home:$.50 each X 50 cupcakes.
Couple of picnic benches for nice weather:$350.00
Just dreaming here, but a drive through Espresso/Cupcake stands could pop up all over.
Krispy Creme

Greensburg, PA

#17 Dec 12, 2012
eatabagodicks wrote:
Loews prefab barn: 2000.00 (one time cost,)
Rented 20 X 20 space in front of Rusbosin: for said prefab barn:$75 a month
Drive through window:$50.00
Small re-chargeable inverter system for lighting and other electric:$250.00
Honda generator:$1000.00
Commercial Espresso cart machine:$3000.00
Unemployed sister in law to make cupcakes when sitting at home:$.50 each X 50 cupcakes.
Couple of picnic benches for nice weather:$350.00
Just dreaming here, but a drive through Espresso/Cupcake stands could pop up all over.
I like your LOWE'S pre-fab barn suggestion...

Now, there were coffee cart people in San Francisco, who had their own carts with espresso machines, and those people probably made -- I kid you not --$100,000/year.

Some rolled their carts onto trailers to take home at night, some stored their carts at supportive businesses (I'm sure for a fee).

But, the idea of a portable or near portable business -- at the site you mention -- is one I've thought of many times since I returned home.

But note!

It's not in downtown Latrobe, it's along the Route 30 corridor.
Krispy Creme

Greensburg, PA

#18 Dec 12, 2012
To make the $100,000/year using a coffee cart, a person has to sell only 91 coffees a day at $3.50 (lattes, cappuccinos). And that was far less than what the coffee cart people sold working 10-hours a day, non-stop.

Of course, there are supplies, but coffee is a low-food cost item, maybe 20% food cost for coffee + milk + cup + sugars and flavors.
Bluetooth

Rancho Mirage, CA

#19 Dec 12, 2012
It's called VISION...try it for a change! Maybe u could spend as much time attemtping a new idea instead of looking for ways to knock it down.

U R a DOWNER!
Krispy Creme

Greensburg, PA

#20 Dec 12, 2012
Bluetooth wrote:
It's called VISION...try it for a change! Maybe u could spend as much time attemtping a new idea instead of looking for ways to knock it down.
U R a DOWNER!
90% of small businesses fail within the first two years.

Usually small businesses fail, because they don't have a sound business plan, or even a business plan at all.

Visions are one thing. Opening a redundant business without doing proper market research is just dumb.
Jagger

Pittsburgh, PA

#21 Dec 12, 2012
Krispy Creme wrote:
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90% of small businesses fail within the first two years.
That's not true. The failure rate is closer to 40-45%.

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