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Anti Union

Irwin, PA

#1 Dec 10, 2012
Detroit is now one of 24 States voting for the right to work without joining a Union. Finally, they are wising up and understanding that the Unions have been the downfall of their State and the once Great city of Detroit. There was a time for Unions however that has past. The Hostess brand is proof of that. Union rules.....Wonder Bread and Twinkies were not allowed to be delivered in the same truck together....??? Yet another crazy way for the Union to screw things up.
Anti Union

Irwin, PA

#2 Dec 10, 2012
The post should have read Michigan instead of Detroit.
the other side

Irwin, PA

#3 Dec 10, 2012
And the Unions are to blame for this as well?

"Bonuses at banks, trading firms and other investment-related businesses in New York’s financial district will drop 16.5% from last year, hitting their lowest level since 2008, the New York Post notes. Workers on Wall Street can expect to see an average bonus of $101,000 this year, down 50% from $191,360 in 2006, according to New York State’s comptroller."

http://investorplace.com/2012/12/wall-street-...

Must be nice for "lower than normal bonuses" to be greater than the salary of the vast majority of workers in this country.
watsamattau

United States

#4 Dec 10, 2012
I hope that Michigan does not get the right to work law.We have it down here and the auto companys are moving here. We have two or three not too far from here.It has helped with unemployment ,and pays a better wage than most people have been making down here .As long as the unions are keeping the pay at 30 or 40 dollars an hour ,the companys will keep moving down here.They can offer 15 or 20 dollars an hour down here,and thousands of people will line up to apply.
scuba steve

Elyria, OH

#5 Dec 10, 2012
Anti Union wrote:
Detroit is now one of 24 States voting for the right to work without joining a Union. Finally, they are wising up and understanding that the Unions have been the downfall of their State and the once Great city of Detroit. There was a time for Unions however that has past. The Hostess brand is proof of that. Union rules.....Wonder Bread and Twinkies were not allowed to be delivered in the same truck together....??? Yet another crazy way for the Union to screw things up.
Better get your facts straight about hostess.
Hammy

Pittsburgh, PA

#6 Dec 10, 2012
Unions may not be what thy once were but without them you wouldn't see many non union good paying jobs unless you have a skill. As I see it Unions are a necessary "evil" (to all anti-union folks) that create a standard for pay scale. Of course the way health care costs are going up in the next two years the only thing working in a factory will be robots!
union plus

Irwin, PA

#7 Dec 10, 2012
Anti Union wrote:
Detroit is now one of 24 States voting for the right to work without joining a Union. Finally, they are wising up and understanding that the Unions have been the downfall of their State and the once Great city of Detroit. There was a time for Unions however that has past. The Hostess brand is proof of that. Union rules.....Wonder Bread and Twinkies were not allowed to be delivered in the same truck together....??? Yet another crazy way for the Union to screw things up.
This is from some crazy LAZY who never worked!!!
union plus

Irwin, PA

#8 Dec 10, 2012
the other side wrote:
And the Unions are to blame for this as well?
"Bonuses at banks, trading firms and other investment-related businesses in New York’s financial district will drop 16.5% from last year, hitting their lowest level since 2008, the New York Post notes. Workers on Wall Street can expect to see an average bonus of $101,000 this year, down 50% from $191,360 in 2006, according to New York State’s comptroller."
http://investorplace.com/2012/12/wall-street-...
Must be nice for "lower than normal bonuses" to be greater than theGet a job! salary of the vast majority of workers in this country.
Get a JOB
Aspherical

Paterson, NJ

#9 Dec 10, 2012
Hammy wrote:
Unions may not be what thy once were but without them you wouldn't see many non union good paying jobs unless you have a skill. As I see it Unions are a necessary "evil" (to all anti-union folks) that create a standard for pay scale. Of course the way health care costs are going up in the next two years the only thing working in a factory will be robots!
They already have United RoboCare for the robots....
the other side

Irwin, PA

#11 Dec 10, 2012
union plus wrote:
<quoted text>Get a JOB
According to the US census "Median household income was
$50,054 in 2011"

http://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/p60-243.p...

So those with jobs earn substantially less than the reduced bonus.
eatabagodicks

Pittsburgh, PA

#12 Dec 11, 2012
I see those peacable lefty liberal progressives are calling for "Blood." I hope the rest of the world puts you in your place. RTW all the way!!!! F_ck Union thuggery, your time is over.
Blabber Mouth

Greensburg, PA

#13 Dec 11, 2012
He wrote:I hope that Michigan does not get the right to work law.We have it down here and the auto companys are moving here. We have two or three not too far from here.It has helped with unemployment ,and pays a better wage than most people have been making down here .As long as the unions are keeping the pay at 30 or 40 dollars an hour ,the companys will keep moving down here.They can offer 15 or 20 dollars an hour down here,and thousands of people will line up to apply.

..........and your point is??????????Don't you want jobs??
2. Obama needs to STAY out of state issues. He is still campaigning.
Hammy

United States

#14 Dec 11, 2012
the other side wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the US census "Median household income was
$50,054 in 2011"
http://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/p60-243.p...
So those with jobs earn substantially less than the reduced bonus.
Be careful...Median does not mean average. It takes 2 points out of an infinite set (high and low) and finds the exact middle number.
watsamattau

United States

#15 Dec 11, 2012
Blabber Mouth wrote:
He wrote:I hope that Michigan does not get the right to work law.We have it down here and the auto companys are moving here. We have two or three not too far from here.It has helped with unemployment ,and pays a better wage than most people have been making down here .As long as the unions are keeping the pay at 30 or 40 dollars an hour ,the companys will keep moving down here.They can offer 15 or 20 dollars an hour down here,and thousands of people will line up to apply.
..........and your point is??????????Don't you want jobs??
2. Obama needs to STAY out of state issues. He is still campaigning.
My point was that I hope Michigan does not get the right to work law.That way more auto companys will move down south and provide more jobs down here.
lat

Irwin, PA

#16 Dec 11, 2012
Unions are a problem in many places...

http://www.npr.org/2012/12/06/166658788/crime...
the other side

Irwin, PA

#17 Dec 11, 2012
eatabagodicks wrote:
I see those peacable lefty liberal progressives are calling for "Blood." I hope the rest of the world puts you in your place. RTW all the way!!!! F_ck Union thuggery, your time is over.
Where is the call for "blood" you reference? Based upon the ranting in your post it is you who seek blood. Cloud this be from the anatomical parts you want to eat?
the other side

Irwin, PA

#18 Dec 11, 2012
As unions fade so to does the middle class...

"The top 1% saw their income grow by 6% in 2011, while the highest quintile of earners gained 1.6%, according to Census. But the middle 60% of Americans lost ground, falling between 1.6% and 1.9%."

http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/12/news/economy/...
Goodbye Blue Monday

Latrobe, PA

#19 Dec 11, 2012
the other side wrote:
As unions fade so to does the middle class...
"The top 1% saw their income grow by 6% in 2011, while the highest quintile of earners gained 1.6%, according to Census. But the middle 60% of Americans lost ground, falling between 1.6% and 1.9%."
http://money.cnn.com/2012/09/12/news/economy/...
High unemployment, low growth and falling incomes is what people voted for in 2012.

There was a pro-growth candidate and there was a status quo candidate. People voted for the status quo. Get used to it and stop complaining.
the other side

Irwin, PA

#20 Dec 11, 2012
Goodbye Blue Monday wrote:
<quoted text>
High unemployment, low growth and falling incomes is what people voted for in 2012.
There was a pro-growth candidate and there was a status quo candidate. People voted for the status quo. Get used to it and stop complaining.
No complaining here. Simply a response to posts like "Yet another crazy way for the Union to screw things up" or " F_ck Union thuggery, your time is over". Balance to the debate.
union plus

Indiana, PA

#21 Dec 11, 2012
the other side wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the US census "Median household income was
$50,054 in 2011"
http://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/p60-243.p...
So those with jobs earn substantially less than the reduced bonus.
On the other hand you never worked.

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