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way to go

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Another union ruins another company. Hope they are pleased with themselves. I know the company has not been doing well because their pensions were so good and people are living longer but you think the workers would have worked with the company to come to some sort of agreement so they could keep their jobs instead of losing them. A pay cut or a change in pension would be better than unemployment I would think. Guess not.
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way to go wrote:
Another union ruins another company. Hope they are pleased with themselves. I know the company has not been doing well because their pensions were so good and people are living longer but you think the workers would have worked with the company to come to some sort of agreement so they could keep their jobs instead of losing them. A pay cut or a change in pension would be better than unemployment I would think. Guess not.
Taking that logic to its ultimate conclusion...I guess those southern plantation slaves had it pretty good too. Steady work, food, clothing, and a place to sleep. And some Union thought they should be freed from such opportunity.

Damn...
Jagger

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Redneck wrote:
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Taking that logic to its ultimate conclusion...I guess those southern plantation slaves had it pretty good too. Steady work, food, clothing, and a place to sleep. And some Union thought they should be freed from such opportunity.
Damn...
Sadly, those 'slaves' swapped the masters they had for their new government masters. Food, clothing and a place to sleep in exchange for votes.

Government dependency is also slavery, lacking only the steady work.
Redneck

Latrobe, PA

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Jagger wrote:
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Sadly, those 'slaves' swapped the masters they had for their new government masters. Food, clothing and a place to sleep in exchange for votes.
Government dependency is also slavery, lacking only the steady work.
And that's what many in this country want..steady work. But the masters want slaves. No pay, no benefits, no talking back, no dignity and certainly no bargaining power.
Jagger

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And that's what many in this country want..steady work. But the masters want slaves. No pay, no benefits, no talking back, no dignity and certainly no bargaining power.
I think that many more are not interested in the dignity of work, steady or otherwise. All masters want slaves...and the government plantation provides just enough pay and benefits to ensure that the slaves forget all about bargaining power and at the same time discredit dignity.
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When I hear "get over it, you lost," it brings me to this Hostess Union. Wonder how many voted the messiah in. LOL
A Skunk

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Nov 16, 2012
 
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way to go wrote:
Another union ruins another company. Hope they are pleased with themselves. I know the company has not been doing well because their pensions were so good and people are living longer but you think the workers would have worked with the company to come to some sort of agreement so they could keep their jobs instead of losing them. A pay cut or a change in pension would be better than unemployment I would think. Guess not.
Would you do your job for half of what you make now? and have to pay more for benefits, possibly have none?
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Would you do your job for half of what you make now? and have to pay more for benefits, possibly have none?
First off they are making bank for what they do probably 25-30 an hour and yes I would if it meant keeping a job over getting 1/3 of what I once made on unemployment. You wonder why jobs go across seas. Some of it is corporate greed but some of it is the people's fault. People think they deserve so much but in the end we r just screwing ourselves. Have fun paying their way for the next few years. Now another company will buy that company, make it public, and pay those same people half of what they were making before. This happened with the brewery in Latrobe. Those guys aren't making anything close to what they were....
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<quoted text>First off they are making bank for what they do probably 25-30 an hour and yes I would if it meant keeping a job over getting 1/3 of what I once made on unemployment. You wonder why jobs go across seas. Some of it is corporate greed but some of it is the people's fault. People think they deserve so much but in the end we r just screwing ourselves. Have fun paying their way for the next few years. Now another company will buy that company, make it public, and pay those same people half of what they were making before. This happened with the brewery in Latrobe. Those guys aren't making anything close to what they were....
The union is just an excuse for closing. The union only represented 30% of their workforce. So that means that only 5500 of the 18500 workers were union employees.
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And if it wasn't for unions we would still be working for 2 bucks a day and have to buy everything at the company store.
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And if it wasn't for unions we would still be working for 2 bucks a day and have to buy everything at the company store.
Really? If you really believe that, would you not expect people to find other jobs?
Not sure

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Feels more like Hostess was unable to adapt to the ever changing health environment that consumers are starting to demand. More brands like Hostess will likely be on their way out. Unless Twinkies can magically cure cancer enabling people to look past the obesity causing aspects.
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ASK Obama for help Hostess he is good at help.
Joel Olstein

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Jagger wrote:
Sadly, those 'slaves' swapped the masters they had for their new government masters.
Son, that's not how it went. Jefferson raped his woman slaves and created a nice mulatto race down there in Virginia, where Satan runs rampant through those hallowed historical halls...
Joel Olstein

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way to go wrote:
First off they are making bank for what they do probably 25-30 an hour
Are you saying that line employees in a donut shop are making $60,000 a year to roll out dough? Jesus Christ! That's insane.

A donut shop is where the mentally challenged from ARC should have their "life skills" jobs that everyone wants them to have to earn their keep in the world.
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Jagger wrote:
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Sadly, those 'slaves' swapped the masters they had for their new government masters. Food, clothing and a place to sleep in exchange for votes.
Government dependency is also slavery, lacking only the steady work.
When is the next costume tea rally at the airport?? Can we chant catchy little slogans? and wear cute little hats? Please post date and time! Thank you
Joel Olstein

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Redneck wrote:
Taking that logic to its ultimate conclusion...I guess those southern plantation slaves had it pretty good too. Steady work, food, clothing, and a place to sleep. And some Union thought they should be freed from such opportunity.Damn...
Ya know, I pointed out in response to your post that our fine past President Thomas Jefferson, created a whole new mulatto race from forced rape of his slaves, while he was married.

And that down in the hallowed halls of historical Monte Cello Virginia the new mulatto race of our founding forefather, exist and amount to several hundred descendents, all because that fine, married slave owner, took things into his own hands: salve women.

Jefferson's rape of his female slaves is a proven fact, folks -- and go figure in Latrobe TOPIX deleted this post!

Now let us pray that God's work is done and that healing occurs and that these fine mulatto descendents of slaves work for the freedom of others in such dire and dependent positions.

Joel Olstein ;-)
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So the CEO can give himself a 300% raise but yet it's the workers fighting for fair wages and benefits that had caused the company to go bankrupt? Hmmm
Jim Nasium

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Unions busted the company.

Unions supported Obama.

Teachers belong to Unions.

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