The City of Latrobe and Excela LOL

The City of Latrobe and Excela LOL

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I Agree

Burgettstown, PA

#1 Feb 6, 2013
What a Joke people. The last minute atempt by the City of Latrobe to get them to stay. Funny I work in the Municpal building the attempt was lunch paid by you the tax payers. the City Did nothing I saw an Idea submitted by young man that I thought made sense. His Idea Was on Lloyd ave putting the New Excela over there on some un used land near 6th Ward fire hall country landscapeing. then purcahse the homes in front and teart them down for parking lot and park which would fix up the gateway to Latrobe. and provide work for the landscaping company. and maybe look like the cITY COULD FINISH A PROJECT AROUND HERE NOT FROM 40 YRS FROM NOW WHEN MOST OF THE RESIDENCE ARE DIED OR MOVE AWAY.. The young mans Idea could have been mentioned but it was not it was laughed about by the City. I as City worker wanted to call the gentleman but I could lose my job and Being a woman in the Boys club City I would never be able to take care of myself again or my family. But the City attempt to try was just smoke flag for you the people of Latrobe. to make you think they are doing something. the Planning commission al they do fight over stupid things never really getting the job done. and revitlizing the city when we need jobs in the city and a better tax base .. not as long as the people in charge won't wake up and stop acting like the kings not city officials who work for You and me .. Hell the City Manger Deoasn't even live in the city he lives in Greensburg I own 2 properties here in Latrobe my main home and small rental property. Last note I tired of the propaganda That they give to you all make you think we are fine we need you to stand up fight and ask what the hell. And where is our city money and jobs and why didn't you realy try to get Excela to stay now our town will look like GHOST TOWN NOTHING LEFT.. I hope that the person the wrote there Idea in and spoke of to my Auntat the senior Center will read this adn raise cane as I hope all of you do.. as well. thank you City of Latrobe
Moe Green

Charlotte, NC

#2 Feb 7, 2013
The city first learned of Excela's plans in 10/12. At that point they had spent in excess of $500,000 in developmental costs & $1,600,000 in the purchase of land. Simply put, it was a done deal. The lunch/meeting to which you refer, was hosted by Excela, not the city. As to your claim of your claim of working at the municipal bldg, exactly what is the nature of your employment? I doubt that you are an employee of the city. Speaking out against the "good ol' boys" would be protected by your civil service status, your union membership & whistle blower laws. Furthermore, your moronic ramblings, characterized by misspellings, grammatical errors & improper use of punctuation belie gainful employment.
contracts can be broken

Carlisle, PA

#3 Feb 7, 2013
Moe Green wrote:
The city first learned of Excela's plans in 10/12. At that point they had spent in excess of $500,000 in developmental costs & $1,600,000 in the purchase of land. Simply put, it was a done deal. The lunch/meeting to which you refer, was hosted by Excela, not the city. As to your claim of your claim of working at the municipal bldg, exactly what is the nature of your employment? I doubt that you are an employee of the city. Speaking out against the "good ol' boys" would be protected by your civil service status, your union membership & whistle blower laws. Furthermore, your moronic ramblings, characterized by misspellings, grammatical errors & improper use of punctuation belie gainful employment.
So, the city dropped the ball -- again?

The city was not able to create an attractive alternative to EXCELA choosing to build along Route 30?

If the city had been able to -- develop -- an attractive plan, and with the knowledge that you claim the city had (the figures you listed above), the city should have been:

-----more than able to counter EXCELA's Unity Township choice to develop. However, the city lacks a City Planner, a person capable of seeing what is downtown and would could/should be developed.

EXCELA is a multi-million dollar per-year organization. Dropping $600,000 in development costs is nothing. And, canceling the land purchase would have been easy enough to do as well.

-----too bad that the the new city employees can't even draw a local business to its downtown area.

hmmmm
OMG

Greensburg, PA

#4 Feb 7, 2013
Folks, you really know nothing about a business model. There isn't anything the City could have done to have the facility constructed in the City limits. Excela is trying to attract a larger patient base and the population growth is in the township. That's where the land is and that is where the largest population growth is. The City didn't drop the ball. I also have to chuckle, because if Excela did purchase homes in 6 ward, you people would be on here screaming about what a dumb idea it was to replace taxable real estate with tax exempt real estate. I do feel sorry for public officials, because the idiots that post on here don't know what they are talking about. Though it does give me my laugh of the day!
I agree

Burgettstown, PA

#5 Feb 7, 2013
Well OMG Which City Official are You. Or which one is in your pocket. The Idea would have made the area look Better I feel that you and the city need to wake up and stop looking at plans that where made up 40 yrs ago and the city could have done very well in ^th ward the tax abate would have been only for few years to get people in and to build then you would have actual made more money later in taxes then you would have in losing 6 to 10 lLOYD AVE HOMES .. ALL vbUSINESS HAVE TO PAY PROPERTY TAX iDIOT AND ALSO WORKING IN THE cITY LIMITS THE LOCAL WAGE TAX FOR THE CITY HMMM mAYBE YOU SHOULD GO BACK TO SCHOOL LEARN BASIC MATH ..
I agree

Burgettstown, PA

#6 Feb 7, 2013
THIS WAS LAST WEEK MEETING AND NOT MENTION OTHERS. THIS is STARTING TO SOUND LIKE THE Nazi party to me. well better get back to work before I get caught.
OMG

Greensburg, PA

#7 Feb 7, 2013
Hahahaha - hospitals don't pay property tax. There is no tax abatement. Wage tax for those who work in the City, yes, put NOT PROPERTY TAXES. NON-PROFITS DO NOT PAY REAL ESTATE TAXES! I rest my case on the level of ignorance here. You are missing the big picture. Excela needs to be where the people are. Latrobe has 8800 people, Unity Township 22,000. Excela wants the doctors closer to their population growth. It's all about location, location, location....and convenience! OK. I'm done arguing with half-wits!
lat

Irwin, PA

#8 Feb 7, 2013
Did anyone at Latrobe know about the possibility of Excela doing this before it was basically a done deal? If not then someone better be asking why all those in charge are sleeping on the job. Are they really going to claim they knew but it was too late like they did when Rolling Rock got sold or the maternity wing/womans/childrens ward got moved from the hospital.

Latrobe might not be a ghost town yet but it will be in the near future if its leaders keep allowing things to move away. Latrobe is becoming nothing more than a giant nursing home with slum areas.
why latrobe fails

Carlisle, PA

#9 Feb 7, 2013
OMG wrote:
There isn't anything the City could have done to have the facility constructed in the City limits.!
This type of thinking is why Latrobe fails -- over and over and over again.

75% of buildings in downtown Latrobe are empty, and 10% of real estate has been razed.

Of course, the town of Latrobe could have developed a plan to attract EXCELA to within its city limits.

-----But, ya gotta employ people who know how to put together real estate deals and who know real estate developers.
Redneck

Latrobe, PA

#10 Feb 7, 2013
What venues would create revenue and draw people into town today?

Manufacturing...gone.
Medicine...gone.
Retirement community...no.
Education...hmmmm...Greensburg is doing that already.
Recreation..nope.
Test range for WMDs...???

Ladies and Gentlemen...Elvis has left the building.
andy g

Latrobe, PA

#11 Feb 7, 2013
Ummm i'm sure this unintelligible rant must in someway be a violation of policy. Thanks for disclosing that you are an employee. It will make it much easier to locate the ip which will surely lead to some type of suspension. Hopefully it was made from one of the office computers.
marvin

Latrobe, PA

#12 Feb 7, 2013
Just where would a facility that big be built in town. Judging by the incoherence of thidunicipal employee, one did not be very well educated for whatever they do. Kinda sounds similar to the person damning the police department
get a clue

Burgettstown, PA

#14 Feb 7, 2013
andy g wrote:
Ummm i'm sure this unintelligible rant must in someway be a violation of policy. Thanks for disclosing that you are an employee. It will make it much easier to locate the ip which will surely lead to some type of suspension. Hopefully it was made from one of the office computers.
I saw what was written I like this site because it can't be traced not allowed to beit is in the discloser. But who ever wrote is messed up that they would specially if did come from there own work. wow crazy people. on here
Well

Latrobe, PA

#15 Feb 7, 2013
I agree wrote:
Well OMG Which City Official are You. Or which one is in your pocket. The Idea would have made the area look Better I feel that you and the city need to wake up and stop looking at plans that where made up 40 yrs ago and the city could have done very well in ^th ward the tax abate would have been only for few years to get people in and to build then you would have actual made more money later in taxes then you would have in losing 6 to 10 lLOYD AVE HOMES .. ALL vbUSINESS HAVE TO PAY PROPERTY TAX iDIOT AND ALSO WORKING IN THE cITY LIMITS THE LOCAL WAGE TAX FOR THE CITY HMMM mAYBE YOU SHOULD GO BACK TO SCHOOL LEARN BASIC MATH ..
Maybe you should go back to school and learn basic spelling and grammar!
Who Cares

Evans City, PA

#16 Feb 8, 2013
OMG wrote:
Hahahaha - hospitals don't pay property tax. There is no tax abatement. Wage tax for those who work in the City, yes, put NOT PROPERTY TAXES. NON-PROFITS DO NOT PAY REAL ESTATE TAXES! I rest my case on the level of ignorance here. You are missing the big picture. Excela needs to be where the people are. Latrobe has 8800 people, Unity Township 22,000. Excela wants the doctors closer to their population growth. It's all about location, location, location....and convenience! OK. I'm done arguing with half-wits!
Who cares if Excela goes. Its not even good health care. I agree with you as to the obvious nature of why they are moving. I'm more upset at the fact that the city didn't have a plan for when the move was coming, or wasn't more proactive in working with Excela to build a new facility years ago. A few years ago I was told by certain city leadership that they saw Latrobe's future as being a place of medical/professional offices with a regrowth in manufacturing.

1. I couldn't have disagreed more.

2. If Latrobe's identity was a place of medical/professional offices, wouldn't there have been a narrowed focus for growth in those pertaining industries by our city? Excela has had plans for these types of facilities for years. How long ago did they build another facility like this in Irwin? This move by Excela has been coming.

I'm not a fan of the business model of big healthcare systems because it's sooo easy to manipulate the overall quality of care. I can honestly care less about this move. Its just a shame that Latrobe's lack of planning and direction will only keep it chasing it's tail.

Bottomline, a little town like Latrobe is not a place for today's medical industry. If it wants to be, it better significantly reconsider it's infrastructure and approach UPMC to build a new hospital across from the athletic field.

Since: Jan 11

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#17 Feb 8, 2013
You don't care, but it's a shame?...Ok.

Yeah, right, UPMC is going to be interested in building a new hospital in a shrinking small town on the eastern outskirts of its territory. If someone actually wanted to build a hospital to serve the Greensburg/Latrobe/Hempfield/S alem/Unity area, they'd build it on Rte 30 near Westmoreland Mall.

The thing that nobody seems to understand is that the leaders of Latrobe have very little say in who or what will locate in (or leave) the city. They have very few incentives to offer businesses. All they can do is make the city more attractive (both figuratively and literally) to both businesses and residents. After that, it's just a matter of seeing if anything happens.
Who Cares

Evans City, PA

#18 Feb 8, 2013
Yea, pretty much. I don't care, but it's a shame. Nothing else. Cue the bull dozers.

I guess by saying Latrobe isn't suited for today's medical industry growth wasn't implied either. No kidding UPMC isn't going to build a hospital there. I really wasn't trying to make it seem like there was a possibility that would happen.
defeatist Latrobe

Carlisle, PA

#19 Feb 8, 2013
OMG wrote:
There isn't anything the City could have done to have the facility constructed in the City limits.!
This mentality is -- exactly -- why Latrobe declined, has stayed under-functioing, and will, sadly, never recover or revitilize.

And, if there's nothing Latrobe can do,(it seems about much of anything), then why hire a new City Manager? a Sustainabilitiy Manager? and pull a guy out of academe to be the Revitilization Manager?
defeatist Latrobe

Carlisle, PA

#20 Feb 8, 2013
Jim Moz wrote:
The thing that nobody seems to understand is that the leaders of Latrobe have very little say in who or what will locate in (or leave) the city. They have very few incentives to offer businesses. All they can do is make the city more attractive (both figuratively and literally) to both businesses and residents. After that, it's just a matter of seeing if anything happens.
This mentality is -- exactly -- why Latrobe declined, has stayed under-functioing, and will, sadly, never recover or revitilize.

And, if there's nothing Latrobe can do,(it seems about much of anything), then why hire a new City Manager? a Sustainabilitiy Manager? and pull a guy out of academe to be the Revitilization Manager?
defeatist Latrobe

Carlisle, PA

#21 Feb 8, 2013
Jim Moz wrote:
All they can do is make the city more attractive (both figuratively and literally) to both businesses and residents. After that, it's just a matter of seeing if anything happens.
That's the stupidest thing you've ever said!

Latrobe's neighborhoods are so ugly, there's nothing to make look good again!!!!!! The trim has been removed off of the VIctorian houses, front porches have been enclosed. Windows have been reduced in size on many homes. Windows have been removed on many homes. And detailing that once made simple homes look beautiful, was removed by aluminum siding.

Hell, there are even brick homes that have been sided over! How stupid was that? and which idiot gave out the work permit for that kind of UGLY?

And, what exactly is going to be made "pretty"? The HIDEOUS one-story buildings in downtown Latrobe? the abandoned buildings in downtown Latrobe?

-----Maybe the HIDEOUSLY UGLY Latrobe Steel should clean itself up? That would improve 50% of where a lot of people live and drive.

-----Maybe the MONSTROSITY of Le Nature's should be cleaned up or bulldozed?

-----How 'bout the (3) Toxic Sites in Latrobe? Maybe HEALTH of the community should be emphasized, as opposed to "prettying up a pock marked, diseased face with bad make up application".

MOZ, your mentality is -- exactly -- why Latrobe declined, has stayed under-functioing, and will, sadly, never recover or revitilize.

And, if there's nothing Latrobe can do,(it seems about much of anything), then why hire a new City Manager? a Sustainabilitiy Manager? and pull a guy out of academe to be the Revitilization Manager?

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