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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201864 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#204668 Jul 25, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Wrong question, he is saying that marriage should not be allowed because of consummation, how many marriages have been refused by the government because of ability or intent of consummation, that is the question.
I already know the answer, I am sure you do too.
Silly Big D, trix are for kids. He is pointing out that there are differences between the two relationships, and the laws reflect that. But you're too full of yourself to admit that....you might get kicked out of the rainbow clubhouse.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204669 Jul 25, 2013
Big D wrote:
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They are stretching every word they can think of, twisting and distorting every law on the books trying to contrive a way to not allow equal rights.
If they came up with an intelligent argument ( no one has yet ), they might get better response, but as long as their arguments are “consummation”,“procreation”, the words "husband and wife" or reasons for an “annulment” or divorce, any response to such lame arguments is going to sound condescending.
When they start acting like adults, I will treat them like adults.
But you said this thread is moot. Changed your mind Oh, Mighty D?
POOF

Cambridge, IL

#204670 Jul 25, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
What?
Who?
Hollywood

Monrovia, CA

#204671 Jul 25, 2013
All those Hollywood movies where the good guy or bad fires a 6-shot revolver 19 time's. Well here the answer to all that misunderstanding.

The Glock is also easy to fire and maintain.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#204672 Jul 25, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Silly Big D, trix are for kids. He is pointing out that there are differences between the two relationships, and the laws reflect that. But you're too full of yourself to admit that....you might get kicked out of the rainbow clubhouse.
No I am pointing out that same sex couples are legally married in a growing number of states and recognized at the federal level as well, regardless of any lame arguments about "procreation". "consummation" or any words used in any ceremonies and any divorce or annulment procedures which are never used to prevent people from being able to marry.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#204673 Jul 25, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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You love to argue consummation. I would like for you to list the number of marriages that have been annulled over the past decade based on consummation issues.
I also want you to show me where, in the law, same-gender marriages are unable to consummate their marriage. Did those who argued at the Supreme Court in favor of Prop. 8 or DOMA even bring up the issue of consummation?
It's a ridiculous and desperate argument. You should consider dropping it.
Too funny.

SS couples can't equate, so lets just 'drop it'!
Ears have it

Monrovia, CA

#204674 Jul 25, 2013
Stupid Republicans, RNC, GOP and Tea Party Minnie's.

The US Senate Republicans are digging in their heels to make sure important federal courts remain dominated by majorities of right-wing judges, then making up wild stories about how President Obama is engaging in "court packing" simply by nominating people to fill urgent vacancies on the bench!
POOF

Cambridge, IL

#204675 Jul 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Too funny.
SS couples can't equate, so lets just 'drop it'!
Why?

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#204676 Jul 25, 2013
If I understand things correctly, here's where we stand:

Pietro--believes that since same-sex couples are not able to consummate their marriage with reproductive sex, then their marriage is invalid. He also believes that polygamy and incest should be legalized since same-sex marriage is legal.

Frankie--believes that he must post every 2 to 5 minutes. He believes that gay marriage is OK, so long as polygamy and incest marriages are also legal.

Kimare--believes about two-dozen things when it comes to marriage. First he believes that same-sex couples are "redumbdant" because they are unable to have children. But he swears that he does not believe the reproductive capabilities or intentions of a couple should be taken into account when it comes to marriage.
He also believes that marriage is a "cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior"; but also agrees that there are reasons for marrying other than just to reproduce.
He believes that homosexuality is a disorder since no one has ever been able to determine the cause of it. But he accepts that gravity is natural, even though we don't know what causes it either.
He believes that all anal sex is harmful and demeaning, even though a good number of straight people engage in it. And I'm Assuming he also agrees with anal sex within the confines of marriage--so long as the couples are straight.
he believes he has a God-given right to judge others, but claims that he has never made a judgment about a person's relationship.

Laughing Man and Rock Hudsony are pretty much irrelevant. Laughing Man is a troll. And Rock just hates gays.

Are we all on the same page now?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#204677 Jul 25, 2013
POOF wrote:
<quoted text>Who?
Is on first, what's on second.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204678 Jul 25, 2013
POOF wrote:
<quoted text>Who?
You, Jizzy. That's who.

What a dope!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204679 Jul 25, 2013
POOF wrote:
<quoted text>Why?
Because you are a dummy.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204681 Jul 25, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
Frankie--bla bla bla... He believes that gay marriage is OK, so long as polygamy and incest marriages are also legal.
Very good! That's how I feel. Makes me worthy of scorn from you clowns though. The people of tolerance and diversity are neither.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#204682 Jul 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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1. I'm not trying to understand a ss relationship.
2. I'm not trying to change anyone's personal description of their relationship.
3. I'm not judging anyone's personal relationships.
I simply and accurately noted the reality of a core distinction between ss couples and marriage.
That has NOTHING to do with your statements above.
NOTHING you said changes the reality of what I wrote.
I'm simply pointing out that the reunion of a man and woman in marriage connects humanity with the very roots of their existence and, at the same time, reaches into the future with the next generation.
A ss couple just cannot equate to that depth of diversity in a heterosexual couple united as one, in anyway, shape or form.
The past and future joined by a man and woman into the present embarrassingly exposes the absolute barrenness of a ss couple.
It really makes it shameful to even speak of equating the two relationships.
You need to address the points I made, and not change the subject. Perhaps you need to just admit that these points ARE a profound difference between ss couples and marriage.
Endless yammering about nonexistent things doesn't alter the fact that I'm still married, and you're baby mill marriage isn't given any special standing. Not a damn thing you can do about it!!

Smile.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204683 Jul 25, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
If I understand things correctly, here's where we stand:
Pietro--believes that since same-sex couples are not able to consummate their marriage with reproductive sex, then their marriage is invalid. He also believes that polygamy and incest should be legalized since same-sex marriage is legal.
Frankie--believes that he must post every 2 to 5 minutes. He believes that gay marriage is OK, so long as polygamy and incest marriages are also legal.
Kimare--believes about two-dozen things when it comes to marriage. First he believes that same-sex couples are "redumbdant" because they are unable to have children. But he swears that he does not believe the reproductive capabilities or intentions of a couple should be taken into account when it comes to marriage.
He also believes that marriage is a "cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior"; but also agrees that there are reasons for marrying other than just to reproduce.
He believes that homosexuality is a disorder since no one has ever been able to determine the cause of it. But he accepts that gravity is natural, even though we don't know what causes it either.
He believes that all anal sex is harmful and demeaning, even though a good number of straight people engage in it. And I'm Assuming he also agrees with anal sex within the confines of marriage--so long as the couples are straight.
he believes he has a God-given right to judge others, but claims that he has never made a judgment about a person's relationship.
Laughing Man and Rock Hudsony are pretty much irrelevant. Laughing Man is a troll. And Rock just hates gays.
Are we all on the same page now?
We know what causes gravity you pointy head sociologist.

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Amy

Fullerton, CA

#204684 Jul 25, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Already did, four times too, all by a woman "not in her right mind". Thanks for asking though.
Oh, the poor thing...

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#204685 Jul 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
I find it hilarious that homosexuals keep talking about no 'requirement' for procreation.
Especially when marriage needs protection NOT to procreate, and gays need protection to HAVE sex!
LOL
<quoted text>
1. Your partial quote is meaningless without context.
Mating behavior is at the root of the marriage constraint. That is a simple social science fact. Sexual attraction is rooted in mating behavior.
2. Nowhere have I ever said all gays need to have protection to have sex. I am saying that the identifying sexual practice of gays does require protection to be marginally safe.
3. Anal sex always needs protection, even within a faithful relationship. Natural sex within a marriage where neither the man or woman has ever had any other partners NEVER needs protection.
Wow. Not one accurate thing in your rant. What you actually know about sex, science and mating could be scribbled on a matchbook cover.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#204686 Jul 25, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
If I understand things correctly, here's where we stand:
Pietro--believes that since same-sex couples are not able to consummate their marriage with reproductive sex, then their marriage is invalid. He also believes that polygamy and incest should be legalized since same-sex marriage is legal.
Frankie--believes that he must post every 2 to 5 minutes. He believes that gay marriage is OK, so long as polygamy and incest marriages are also legal.
Kimare--believes about two-dozen things when it comes to marriage. First he believes that same-sex couples are "redumbdant" because they are unable to have children. But he swears that he does not believe the reproductive capabilities or intentions of a couple should be taken into account when it comes to marriage.
He also believes that marriage is a "cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior"; but also agrees that there are reasons for marrying other than just to reproduce.
He believes that homosexuality is a disorder since no one has ever been able to determine the cause of it. But he accepts that gravity is natural, even though we don't know what causes it either.
He believes that all anal sex is harmful and demeaning, even though a good number of straight people engage in it. And I'm Assuming he also agrees with anal sex within the confines of marriage--so long as the couples are straight.
he believes he has a God-given right to judge others, but claims that he has never made a judgment about a person's relationship.
Laughing Man and Rock Hudsony are pretty much irrelevant. Laughing Man is a troll. And Rock just hates gays.
Are we all on the same page now?
You forgot Jizzy.
Amy

Fullerton, CA

#204687 Jul 25, 2013
commonpeeps wrote:
<quoted text>Loan him yours. Need to clean it first though.
Such intelligence from a little mind! How about I give it to you? You could stick it up your...

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#204688 Jul 25, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Too funny.
SS couples can't equate, so lets just 'drop it'!
Are you willing to have the following marriages annulled:

--Marriages involving elderly couples who are incapable due to age or medical problems to engage in reproductive intercourse

--Marriages involving one or both members who have a mental impairment (depression, PTSD, anxiety/panic, etc.), keeping them from consummating for reproductive purposes.

--Marriages involving one or both members who have physical problems that impair them from engaging in intercourse for reproductive purposes. Examples would include war injuries, diabetes, various cancers, etc.

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By the way, annulment happens when a married person seeks to have their marriage ended. The government doesn't go on witch hunts looking for marriages to be annulled.

As with a couple's reproductive intentions, the government doesn't hand out marriage certificates based on a full physical and psychological examination indicating that both people seeking a license are capable of consummating their marriage.

Bottom line, it's just another distraction. None of your business what goes on in a legally married couple's bedroom. Just move along.

I know how hard that it is for you to keep yourselves out of other people's affairs, but try to.

With your fascination with anal sex and Pietro's fascination with reproductive consummation, you guys are beginning to creep the rest of us out.

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