Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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Answers to the quiz;
1.- Gay unions possess but one gender distinction unless one or both have your features leaving a possibility of having THREE potential genders.
2.- Can a gay union produce a biological child. Yes and no. Yes in the fact they could outsource for sperm donors, egg donors and a surrogate to carry the baby to full term or no if your meaning was to advise this child must possess both members of that union's DNA.
We're still waiting on specifics as to how a gay familiy produces shortcomings for the children in their care.
Those were difficult points to twirl. I have to say, you did a really poor job. However, what could you do with something so obvious???

Your response does bring up another question though.

How come all lesbian couples look like Hillery Clinton and Janet Napolitano?

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You are aware that Skinner vs Oklahoma was about forced sterilization, right?
If marriage actually went hand in hand with procreation......you'd have a point......but seeing as we allow infertile/sterile heterosexual couples to get married, as well as heterosexual women to marry past the childbearing years.....your argument falls short.
Griswold vs Connecticut, allowed women the right to use birth control, thus allowing them to decide when children should be part of the picture.
See, if you want to make marriage truly about procreation......I'm all for it, but that's NOT true nor the truth.......what you want is to keep something one way even though that has NOT always been the case with marriage.
I'm simply posting SCOTUS precedence clearly linking marriage and procreation. Twice!

Your argument is with them.

However, your argument is stupid because common sense tells us that the rare and often natural exception to the rule of procreation does not invalidate the rule.

Especially because you are trying to impose a 100% sterile relationship on the only natural relationship of human fruit.

Unbelievably idiotic!

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<quoted text>Quick history lesson for you. Skinner associates procreation with marriage. Why? They were about to carve out a very important exception to precedent. Standing in the way of Skinner keeping his boys in working order was the case of Buck v Bell, which said that the right to procreate was worth nothing more than a rational review and if the state had a good reason to put you permanently out of the reproductive effort, they could do so without violating your rights. Skinner and company needed more than that because keeping habitual felons from breeding was a pretty reasonable notion there at the tail-end of the Eugenics movement in this country. He tied his testicles to his 'marriage', hoped for a little more in the way of a review and got it. Vasectomying the right of an individual to procreate within their marriage takes a little more scrutiny, because there are the rights of another involved and she may not want him fixed. The ruling does not extend an inherent right to marriage only to those who procreate, the legal validity of the Skinners marriage wasn't even a question before the court. It was the legal fact that he had already exercised that right to marriage, which created the exception for his right to procreate to stand any chance to exist. No Mrs Skinner, no real right to any potential future little Skinners.
The individual's right to be legally married, as alluded to in Skinner, but not spelled out until Loving, had to have been already exercised by Sinner for his new found procreative rights to even exist. No marriage and the state can kick you out of the gene pool for pretty much any reason, as long as it seems reasonable.
Your right to procreate within your marriage comes from your right to marry, not the other way around.
What a silly twirl!

Many different points are used in any legal argument to make the case. The use of those points does not limit them to that case thereafter. They stand alone and can be used in new situations. That is a key power of precedence.

Here is the point your twirl did nothing to address;

"Marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race."

A critical, clear and absolute linking of procreation and marriage.
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Of course I'm an idiot.
Anyone who doesn't think anal sex is awesome is an idiot, right?
Well at least you were honest and got the first part right! Congrats you nut job! Whacka doodle do! And once again your babbling,psychotic rants have nothing to do with the subject at hand! LOL

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KiMare wrote:
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"Marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race."
A critical, clear and absolute linking of procreation and marriage.
Of course, procreation is NOT required for a marriage license, and a marriage license is NOT required to procreate.

Your belief is that No Children = No license? You can't apply a different set of rules to gay folks, unless you also apply them to heterosexuals who marry.

If you are trying to say that having married parents provides stability and security to children, then, yes, you would be correct. Every study - and overwhelming anecdotal evidence - shows this.

But this applies equally to the children of gay parents.

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Prof Marvel wrote:
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Of course I'm an idiot.
Anyone who doesn't think anal sex is awesome is an idiot, right?
So, you are proposing that all Americans who have ever had anal sex must be barred from marriage.

How will this work? Will they need to take a questionnaire? A lie detector test? Provide a Doctor's note? Will married couple who engage in it have to forfeit their licenses if they are discovered, or will annual testing be required?

Don't you think the millions upon millions of straight Americans engage in it are going to protest this intrusion into their private lives?

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I'm simply posting SCOTUS precedence clearly linking marriage and procreation. Twice!
Your argument is with them.
However, your argument is stupid because common sense tells us that the rare and often natural exception to the rule of procreation does not invalidate the rule.
Especially because you are trying to impose a 100% sterile relationship on the only natural relationship of human fruit.
Unbelievably idiotic!
Sorry, Dear, SCOTUS hasn't ruled on ANY same sex marriage case, yet.

And, unless procreation is already required to obtain a marriage license for straight people, how, with an "equal protection under the law" clause, can procreation ONLY be required for gay folks?

Unless you are trying to say that the very notion of same sex marriage will prevent so many straight people from procreating that the civilization will collapse.

That hasn't happened in ANY state or country that allows it, so how would such a contention be proven?

Again with the simple question - how will same sex marriage stop straight people from procreating?

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So, you are proposing that all Americans who have ever had anal sex must be barred from marriage.
How will this work? Will they need to take a questionnaire? A lie detector test? Provide a Doctor's note? Will married couple who engage in it have to forfeit their licenses if they are discovered, or will annual testing be required?
Don't you think the millions upon millions of straight Americans engage in it are going to protest this intrusion into their private lives?
If millions and millions of straights engaged in anal sex, gays -- although only 2-4% of the population -- wouldn't make up 61% of all new HIV cases.

Now that's basic math.

What part of it don't you understand, fella?

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Prof Marvel wrote:
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If millions and millions of straights engaged in anal sex, gays -- although only 2-4% of the population -- wouldn't make up 61% of all new HIV cases.
Now that's basic math.
What part of it don't you understand, fella?
the population is more like 5-8% but your 2-4% has you and your ilk running scared! Nice to know 'we' have that POWER. Who woulda thought??
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Of course I can.
Children in a gay home will ALWAYS be missing at least one parent and one gender.
A deficit of either one is significant.
You do realise "couple" means two, right?
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Prof Marvel wrote:
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If millions and millions of straights engaged in anal sex, gays -- although only 2-4% of the population -- wouldn't make up 61% of all new HIV cases.
Now that's basic math.
What part of it don't you understand, fella?
I don't understand the part of it where you think anal sex causes HIV cases.

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<quoted text>I simply said it was because of my opinion, a new born does not have an opinion. LOL!!!when did u get registered? Now it's Booble Eyed
You wailed like a child in that post son.

Don't cry like a bitch and think someone won't laugh.

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I don't understand the part of it where you think anal sex causes HIV cases.
That's because you're in denial.

You don't want to believe the sin qua non of male homosexuality -- anal sex -- is a morbidly unhealthy behavior even though the stats show nothing explains why so many gay males have died.

But let's play with this a little ...

More than 364,000 gay males have died and although only 2-4% of the population they make up 61% of all new HIV cases.

Tell us the why this is if not anal sex.

Mind you, replying with your lame refrain, "Straights have anal sex too!" doesn't cut it.

One in five straights don't have HIV. Straights are permitted to donate blood, etc....

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Look, Einstein, San Francisco and Greenwich Village were the epicenters of the HIV epidemic -- that's where it started.
If your point is the virus existed 5000 years ago that doesn't change the fact that it was gays in San Francisco and Greenwich Village whose behavior morphed the virus into a mass murderer.
In other words, your convoluted attempt to place the blame on black Africans don't wash. Whether it jumped species because Africans were eating monkeys or fucking them it wasn't a problem for them or the world until you and your pals started butt-fucking en masse in your San Francisco and Greenwich Village bathhouses.
Where did the EPIDEMIC begin, Einstein, and why did it begin there?
Can you stop your blathering for a second and stop dancing around that question?
AIDS is and always has been a disease moron. It cares not if you're straight, gay, drive a blue Corvette or get to work on a Schwinn with a rusty drive chain. Your inference of 'murderer' in regards to gays is a joke. No one wanted to get, give or see that disease. Why don't grow the fuck up one day and let your second ball drop before you enter society because as it is now you're unfit.

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Kids are not having anal sex and your claim they are is just another example of the lengths you people go to homosexualize America.
And if kids have started having anal sex, guess who we can thank for that?
In fact, wasn't that one of your defenses for "The Little Black Book?" -- that the filth in it like fisting, golden showers, anal sex and cock-sucking are what all kids are doing so they needed to be told how to do it right?
Which leads into all those Straight-Gay clubs you're now demanding all schools have. You tell us these clubs prevent bullying, but what you leave out is that they're a safe and clever way for adult males to hook-up with underage boys:
http://mainebusiness.mainetoday.com/newsdirec...
You're a freak Chief. You'd find one article written by a biased source backing up your claims gays are the Apocolypse walking and lay claim it was holier than Moses coming down from the mountain with the Ten Commandments yet disregard any evidence otherwise.

The KKK has the same mentality as you so you know and take a look how influential they are.

Get a life jackass.

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That's because you're in denial.
You don't want to believe the sin qua non of male homosexuality -- anal sex -- is a morbidly unhealthy behavior even though the stats show nothing explains why so many gay males have died.
But let's play with this a little ...
More than 364,000 gay males have died and although only 2-4% of the population they make up 61% of all new HIV cases.
Tell us the why this is if not anal sex.
Mind you, replying with your lame refrain, "Straights have anal sex too!" doesn't cut it.
One in five straights don't have HIV. Straights are permitted to donate blood, etc....
Right.

Everyone who disagrees wioth your sorryh ass must be in 'denial'.

LOL!!!

I'm in denial too "Professor" because I'd listen to a blazed out alcoholic homeless bum tell me he needed the money in my wallet to start his dream of a charity in Ethiopia for orphans and not the bottle of Night Train he'd been eyeballing through the liquor store display window next to him rather than believe your bullshit.

LOL!!

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Prof Marvel wrote:
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Of course I'm an idiot.
Anyone who doesn't think anal sex is awesome is an idiot, right?
No you're an idiot by screaming out some little black book giving instructions to "golden showers" is being pushed into the school system by the homosexual community and others.

LOL!!!

Geeezus....what's next??? Claiming someone is putting pamphlets into all the Lutheran and Methodist Bibles in churches nationwide on how to grease up a pepperjack sausage enough to insert it into your ASS???

ROFL!!!!

You're lost buddy. Out of touch with reality. An emotional mess bent on a mission for which there is no reasoning.

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Those were difficult points to twirl. I have to say, you did a really poor job. However, what could you do with something so obvious???
Your response does bring up another question though.
How come all lesbian couples look like Hillery Clinton and Janet Napolitano?
I don't see that all lesbian couples do sweetness.

But that again is an inside view of your limited mind.

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What a silly twirl!
Many different points are used in any legal argument to make the case. The use of those points does not limit them to that case thereafter. They stand alone and can be used in new situations. That is a key power of precedence.
Here is the point your twirl did nothing to address;
"Marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race."
A critical, clear and absolute linking of procreation and marriage.
You and your fucking 'twirls'...LOL!!!!

I bet anything when a cop pulls you over for doing 89 in a 40 MPH zone in your no doubt bumper sticker covered minivan only to explain to your goofed up self why he is writing you a ticket you'd claim he was 'twirling' with the facts given you don't think you were going a hair over 25 while waiving your 'letter' in his face simultaneously explaining it's been 1 year, six months and five days since you were caught breaking into the dog pound to eat cat shit out of litter boxes and that you were OK now.

LOL!!!!!!

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Prof Marvel wrote:
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That's because you're in denial.
You don't want to believe the sin qua non of male homosexuality -- anal sex -- is a morbidly unhealthy behavior even though the stats show nothing explains why so many gay males have died.
But let's play with this a little ...
More than 364,000 gay males have died and although only 2-4% of the population they make up 61% of all new HIV cases.
Tell us the why this is if not anal sex.
Mind you, replying with your lame refrain, "Straights have anal sex too!" doesn't cut it.
One in five straights don't have HIV. Straights are permitted to donate blood, etc....
I'd be curious to see your stats freakazoid.

I bet your statistic for getting married stands at a whopping .000000%, your success rate at dating holds a steady .000028% percentile rating and your ability to make new friends has been in the negative range.

BAH HAH HAH!!!!

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