Police respond to rash of shootings a...

Police respond to rash of shootings as family mourns man's death

There are 48 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Apr 8, 2009, titled Police respond to rash of shootings as family mourns man's death. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

Hector Gutierrez, 65, stares out the front window of his East Mesa home Wednesday, bringing to mind fond memories of his late son, Jacob G. Gutierrez, 21, who was shot April 2 and later died from his injuries.

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CK One

Wahiawa, HI

#1 Apr 9, 2009
7 reported shooting in 1 week!!! OMG TYPICAL LAS CRUCES!!!! What a trashy town it is turning into.
Disgusted

AOL

#2 Apr 9, 2009
Hector Guiterrez should have been a caring and strong father to this son a long time ago. It is way too late now. His life would not be so wasted if this incident would actually wake up some of these other gang banger parents. But it won't, and the senseless killings will go on. You can't expect anymore when these parents are either afraid of their own children, or encourage them to follow in Daddy's footsteps and join a gang.

“I Put the "B" in ITCH!!”

Since: Jun 08

Wood-Ridge, NJ

#3 Apr 9, 2009
Any coincidence to repealing the death penalty????

Since: Jan 09

Las Cruces, NM

#4 Apr 9, 2009
Mr. Gutierrez suffered the loss of a child....incredibly painful no matter the circumstance.

Yet to this day, he denies that his son was in a gang. When confronted with evidence that their children are in gangs, the common response seems to be, "No...not mijo!"

The brother acknowledges both the gang involvement and the eventual damage being a chollo will bear.

Parents need to wake up and confront reality, or this situation will explode.

As for NJ Bred's comment on the death penalty in New Mexico, they should have carved out an exception to the ban: Any gang-related murder (as well as the murder of a law enforcement officer) is punishable by death.

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“I Put the "B" in ITCH!!”

Since: Jun 08

Wood-Ridge, NJ

#5 Apr 9, 2009
BottleRocket wrote:
Mr. Gutierrez suffered the loss of a child....incredibly painful no matter the circumstance.
Yet to this day, he denies that his son was in a gang. When confronted with evidence that their children are in gangs, the common response seems to be, "No...not mijo!"
The brother acknowledges both the gang involvement and the eventual damage being a chollo will bear.
Parents need to wake up and confront reality, or this situation will explode.
As for NJ Bred's comment on the death penalty in New Mexico, they should have carved out an exception to the ban: Any gang-related murder (as well as the murder of a law enforcement officer) is punishable by death.
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I agree that what the family is going through is painful, but let's do a little introspection here. He was clearly not the angel some would like to perceive. I don't know how a parent doesn't know their child is part of a gang. Parenting is not an easy job, but burying your head in the sand is not working, either for the parent's or children. We see parent's who want to be friend's with their children, we don't see enough parent's who hold their children accountable and discipline the old fashioned way by punishing them.
It is just a waste of a life and I hope this is a wake up call to those parent's out there to pay attention to what their children are doing outside of the home.
Sarah

AOL

#6 Apr 9, 2009
I think it's a mistake to remove the death penalty. If you end the life of any human being, intentionally, you should have no right to be breathing in this planet. I also agree, denial of the parents is what enables the kids to continue this life. Where is the responsibility of the parent? Where is the trust within the family? Kids repeat what they see at home. No respect, no trust, and no responsibility is an example they will repeat. If they can't find it at home, they will certainly be talked into it with joining a gang which gives them that sense of security. Get involved in their school activities and what they do on their free time. Surprise them by showing up in places they say they are going to and may not be there at all. Take the doors off their rooms if necessary and inspect every corner of their living quarters. Take the cell phones away. Inspect their underware drawers for weapons, drugs or anything like that if you have to and definitely, if the problem is there already, don't hide your head in the sand and deny it! Do what you have to do to save them, even by moving away from the area and giving them a start somewhere else.
sad day

Las Cruces, NM

#7 Apr 9, 2009
Rest in peace, youngster. Too bad the only way to get kicks in this town involves weapons and a wannabe gangster attitude. This town is going down the toilet, thanks to a few who are ruining for everybody. I feel bad for his family, and our hearts are with them. I really hope they get justice.
Judas

Muscle Shoals, AL

#8 Apr 9, 2009
The only thing more disgusting than a town full of gangbangers is a town full of gangbangers' parents who won't wake up to their own responsibility.
CK One is a tool

Socorro, NM

#9 Apr 9, 2009
CK One wrote:
7 reported shooting in 1 week!!! OMG TYPICAL LAS CRUCES!!!! What a trashy town it is turning into.
Just think how much trashier it would be if CK One lived in Las Cruces. Can you imagine the stink?

“Your DQCC Limit is Maxed!”

Since: Sep 08

In Utero (originally)

#10 Apr 9, 2009
My comments on this forum today are going to be deliberate & my reason and point will become apparent.

Having read comments on the two initial threads pertaining to this story re Jacob Guiterrez, I was rather disgusted by so many of the insensitive and callous comments.

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/las-cruces-...

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/las-cruces-...

I DO NOT condone "gang banger" lifestyle & work in opposition to it by working with at risk youth. People even attempted the same in the case of the 18 yr old from Berino.

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/las-cruces-...

With that said, I am highly bothered by the number of people who make so many erroneous assumptions pertaining to this family. Some even suggest that the kid followed in his "Daddy's footsteps".

The reason all the vicious rumors & erroneous assumptions bother me so very much is that on this day 09APR1997, I experienced the same barrage of rumor & erroneous assumptions because that is the day my 18 yr old son died. People instantaneously speculated that he died from a drug overdose or from a gang related incident. These were speculations that were completely unfounded and without merit. My son was an honors student with a 4.0 GPA who graduated early, on his way to become a chemical engineer, and had never been involved in any gang. What killed him was common among athletes who've collapsed on the basketball court and not detected until an autopsy--CARDIOMYOPATHY. Not gangs, not shootings. Yet during this difficult time for me and my family, we were subjected to all this garbage from many cold hearted people in LC. Believe me this is not something any grieving parent wants to be subjected.

I realize that there are conflicting stories, and that the victims brother adds to this family's pain. All I'm asking is that some of you have a tad more compassion and empathy in your comments, and for goodness sakes, please quit with all the assumptions.
LC Dave

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Apr 9, 2009
sad day wrote:
Rest in peace, youngster. Too bad the only way to get kicks in this town involves weapons and a wannabe gangster attitude. This town is going down the toilet, thanks to a few who are ruining for everybody. I feel bad for his family, and our hearts are with them. I really hope they get justice.
We live in a town with many possible activities for young people to be involved in (hiking, sports, etc.). I've heard this claim all my life no matter where I've lived (big cities and small towns): "there's nothing for the kids to do." I'm tired of hearing it. There are always things for people to do if they will put some of their own effort into enjoying life and not waiting for entertainment to be provided for them.
tonibgood2000

Las Cruces, NM

#12 Apr 9, 2009
I agree with Sarcastic, be sensitive to others feelings. Don't be judgemental you don't have all the facts and if you don't like the gang activity we better find a positive way to keep these kids involved in positive fun things.. I'm not saying to babysit but to invest in our future these kids will be running the country one day
Curious George

Las Cruces, NM

#13 Apr 9, 2009
BottleRocket wrote:
Mr. Gutierrez suffered the loss of a child....incredibly painful no matter the circumstance.
Yet to this day, he denies that his son was in a gang. When confronted with evidence that their children are in gangs, the common response seems to be, "No...not mijo!"
The brother acknowledges both the gang involvement and the eventual damage being a chollo will bear.
Parents need to wake up and confront reality, or this situation will explode.
As for NJ Bred's comment on the death penalty in New Mexico, they should have carved out an exception to the ban: Any gang-related murder (as well as the murder of a law enforcement officer) is punishable by death.
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Why would we enforce harsher penalties against gang members who kill their own, than we would against a sociopath who kills an innocent man, woman or child? Help me understand the logic here.
Blast From The Past

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Apr 9, 2009
CK One wrote:
7 reported shooting in 1 week!!! OMG TYPICAL LAS CRUCES!!!! What a trashy town it is turning into.
Just think how much trashier it would be if CK One lived in Las Cruces. Can you imagine the stink?
You need to grow up..........this is not a laughing matter.
If everyone wants to settle something, go to the river and beat each other up with your fists just like we used to. Not with guns nor weapons, that doesn't prove anything. Neither does fighting nor violence but at least when you use your fits you know who really is the toughest one!!
Anonymous

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Apr 9, 2009
Why has there been NO ARRESTS in this case??? Ridiculous!
Just A Thought

AOL

#16 Apr 9, 2009
Perhaps it's time to take the gang matter out of the hands of the juvenile courts and start using anti-organized crime laws. The murders are handed down by gang seniority to their teenage members.
las cruces resident

Santa Fe, NM

#17 Apr 9, 2009
CK One wrote:
7 reported shooting in 1 week!!! OMG TYPICAL LAS CRUCES!!!! What a trashy town it is turning into.
since you hate this city so much, why do you keep reading the newspaper about us everyday? and commenting about us everyday? you probably love us but, someone did something too hurt you and now were all too blame? what the he!! just keep your nose out of our newspaper and you'll be fine. I feel sorry for you
!d!ot.
anonymous 2

Nashville, TN

#18 Apr 9, 2009
Anonymous wrote:
Why has there been NO ARRESTS in this case??? Ridiculous!
There was an arrest on Friday after the shooting and the police let him go. So thats why the shootings continue and won't stop until they get the guy who did this. He's even been bragging to people that he killed this guy. So were's the cops, they probabley do want them to just kill eachother off but that isn't fair to the families whether they know there kids are in a gang or not.
not an ese

Rio Rancho, NM

#19 Apr 9, 2009
horale....sabes que ese....this is a teragedy anytime we lose a youth to stupidity be it his or someone else it is a loss......we gloify these people by songs.....movies.....video games ....etc......we make these people into heros and i use the trm "we" because it is not just our youth who live the "vida loca"....time to stop it.....grow up....and take the bull by the horns eh... the cops know the so called gangbangers..pick them up......lock them up.....make them see thier errors.....dont coddle these people........make life tough on them.....el paso is trying....but the ACLU is fighting them.....make it illegal for them to gather.....make it tough on them when the cops pull them over for random checks....profiling..??? hell yes......you drive a low rider with the virgin mary on the hood...you get pulled over.....car searched.....butwe wont do anything like that......it would violate thier civil rights........te watcho
Not surprised

Las Cruces, NM

#20 Apr 9, 2009
Live by the sword. Die by the sword. What goes around comes around.

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